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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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So basically, the Russians are throwing stones from their glass houses. Typical.

Not to mention using hostages like that is right out of a terrorist playbook.
They are terrorists, as it's technically "not a war".

Blinken says NATO countries have "green light" to send fighter jets to Ukraine​

Secretary of State Antony Blinken says the U.S. is considering replacing Polish fighter jets if the Polish government decides to send aircraft to Ukraine.



WARNING. CBS News audio is so bad I almost think they are intentionally trying to kill your ears.



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Blinken says NATO countries have "green light" to send fighter jets to Ukraine​

Secretary of State Antony Blinken says the U.S. is considering replacing Polish fighter jets if the Polish government decides to send aircraft to Ukraine.

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WARNING. CBS News audio is so bad I almost think they are intentionally trying to kill your ears.
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Russian attacks decimated this residential area. CNN shows the aftermath.​

CNN's Alex Marquardt reports on a Russian strike that killed civilians in the residential town Markhalivka, Ukraine.


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Zelensky says Russia is preparing to bomb Odessa​


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said Russia is preparing to bomb Odessa, a strategically important port city on Ukraine's Black Sea coast.

“Russian people always used to come to Odessa and they only knew warmth and generosity and what’s now? Artillery, bombs against Odessa. This will be a war crime. This will be historic crime”, Zelensky said in a broadcast address on Facebook.

Switching from speaking Ukrainian to Russian, Zelensky appealed to the Russian people to make a choice “between life and slavery.”

People of Russia … this is the time when you can still win over the evil,” he said.

“We are Ukrainians. We need peace. We want peace. And for Russian citizens it's not only the fight for peace in Ukraine but for your peace and for your freedom. You used to see it. You knew prosperity…If you will be silent now, then only your poverty will speak for you”, Zelensky continued.


Defiance and disobedience are flourishing in Russian-held Ukraine​


While the Ukrainian military's resistance against Russia's invasion has been well-documented, the last few days have seen growing popular defiance of Russian forces. In the south of Ukraine, especially, there have been multiple protests in areas where Russian troops have arrived.

At least several hundred people gathered in the center of Kherson on Saturday to protest the Russian occupation of the Black Sea port.

One video of the demonstrations showed people walking into Kherson's main square despite the occasional volley of gunfire. Where that gunfire came from is unclear, but a small detachment of Russian soldiers is seen guarding the Regional Council building.

The protesters chanted "Ukrainia," and the largest cheer went up when a young man waving Ukraine's blue-and-yellow flag scrambled onto a Russian troop carrier.

One man who attended the protests managed to send a sequence of videos to CNN, saying in broken English: "People want to show that Kherson is Ukraine, and all brave people go into this meeting, not afraid of Russian military."

There was a further demonstration in Kherson on Sunday. Videos from this event suggest it was smaller but no less determined. An elderly woman looked steadily into the camera in one video and said quietly: "Save our country! Let them all die, together with Putin."

The protests in Kherson this weekend were the largest and latest in a growing tide of confrontations in the few Ukrainian towns and cities of any size that Russian forces have taken.
They may be an ominous sign for Russian commanders already struggling to break down Ukrainian military resistance. And, despite the risk, this civil disobedience is being urged on from above.

On Saturday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a Facebook message: "Everyone who can defend their city must continue to fight. Must. Because if everyone leaves, then whose city will it be?"

And, on Sunday, hundreds of people heeded Zelensky's call and took part in marches throughout the Kherson region, which is close to Russian-controlled Crimea.

In the city of Nova Kakhovka, a crowd cheered as an elderly woman brandished a broom and dustpan as a welcome to Russian troops. Two men scrambled up a plinth to raise the Ukrainian flag outside the city hall.

Later, video emerged of smoke rising from among the crowd amid the sound of gunfire. The Ukrainian news agency Interfax said five people had been injured after Russian forces opened fire -- apparently above the protestors' heads -- and used stun grenades.

It seemed like almost every town in Kherson was out on Sunday. In Novooleksiika, hundreds sang the national anthem and shouted "Ukraine is above all" as they walked down a rural road.
And in Kalanchak, which lies closer to Crimea, hundreds of people sang the national anthem and shouted "Ukraine is above all" as they walked down a rural road -- with multiple generations of locals bound together in national solidarity.

They then unfurled a huge Ukrainian flag and harangued masked and heavily armed Russian soldiers. Women shouted, "Get out of our land, we don't need you! Get out of our land!"

Since the middle of last week there have been protests against Russia, often involving just a few dozen people, from Berdyansk on Ukraine's south coast to Konotop, hundreds of miles north between Kyiv and Kharkiv.

When the Russian military arrived in Konotop, a small crowd swarmed a Russian military vehicle, yelling abuse. One climbed onto its hood and then tumbled off as it sped away. In Berdyansk, a crowd sang the Ukrainian national anthem outside the city hall, which was occupied by Russian troops last week. Bolder civilians confronted soldiers in a truck, who seemed bewildered.

Individual acts of defiance are going viral in a country where the internet and mobile communications remain largely intact, much to the surprise of most people. The footage spread rapidly through Telegram and Facebook -- short, uneven clips where the raw courage of protesters punches through.

These are all scattered examples, and they don't amount to organized resistance. But they do demonstrate genuine defiance and opposition to the new order that Russian forces are trying to impose as they gradually take more territory.

The quandary for the occupying force is finding local officials willing to work under their direction to maintain services in towns and cities where food and medical supplies are running short. The Russians seem poorly prepared to install local administrations.

In most cases so far, Russian troops have kept a low profile in the face of civilian protests. They have stood their ground but not reacted. But not always. In a town in the eastern region of Luhansk, which is largely Russian-speaking, residents took to the streets of Novopskov on Friday.

"Get out of here! War and death are following you," they chanted.

They came back for more on Saturday, when Russian troops shot one man in the leg and fired volleys into the air to disperse a crowd approaching their position.

What's unclear is whether the Russians can both control the cities they are beginning to occupy and try to drive forward across this vast country. Russian forces are already experiencing supply issues, according to US officials. Crushing Ukrainian military resistance as well as subduing an emboldened population would be a tall order.

Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant under Russian order, says International Atomic Energy Agency​

The International Atomic Energy Agency tweeted Sunday that Ukraine’s nuclear regulator has reported communication problems with staff operating at the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia in southeastern Ukraine.

The Ukrainian authorities have told the IAEA that regular staff continue to operate the plant, “but plant management is now under orders from commander of Russian forces controlling site.”

 
How accurate have those projections that Russia would be completely out of money and ammunition by today been so far?
Running out of money is irrelevant in the immediate tense for the war, Russia can print it if it just wants to go balls to the wall retarded. So that's what they will do, print roubles, fuck their economy all to support a war they won't likely win.

By the looks of things it's pretty clear the supply problems the Russians are having are biting. Ammunition specifically? Fuck knows how much they have, but it's quite clear the Russia assaults on all of the major cities - asides perhaps Mauripol - are stuck. The more successful southern advance has taken heavy losses at the next city on from Kherson, and that was VDV forces which are well trained compared to the rest of the Russian forces.

So at this point where is Russia going to have success, they're not taking Kyiv. Kharkiv, Sumy Cherniv aren't under threat of falling to them. Odessa is secure. The Russians are bringing up civilian vehicles via train with Z markings on our of desperation. Their air force has been shown to be completely amateur. Even the city they did take isn't cowed by them and Ukrainians are in the streets protesting. They don't have enough men to occupy the country, and the Ukrainian people have high moral. Russian soldiers look demoralised and in rag order.

Russia isn't going to win.
 
Running out of money is irrelevant in the immediate tense for the war, Russia can print it if it just wants to go balls to the wall retarded. So that's what they will do, print roubles, fuck their economy all to support a war they won't likely win.

By the looks of things it's pretty clear the supply problems the Russians are having are biting. Ammunition specifically? Fuck knows how much they have, but it's quite clear the Russia assaults on all of the major cities - asides perhaps Mauripol - are stuck. The more successful southern advance has taken heavy losses at the next city on from Kherson, and that was VDV forces which are well trained compared to the rest of the Russian forces.

So at this point where is Russia going to have success, they're not taking Kyiv. Kharkiv, Sumy Cherniv aren't under threat of falling to them. Odessa is secure. The Russians are bringing up civilian vehicles via train with Z markings on our of desperation. Their air force has been shown to be completely amateur. Even the city they did take isn't cowed by them and Ukrainians are in the streets protesting. They don't have enough men to occupy the country, and the Ukrainian people have high moral. Russian soldiers look demoralised and in rag order.

Russia isn't going to win.
And if Russia is having all these problems while trying to topple the Ukrainian government, just imagine the nightmare it would be to simply hold the damn country, both in terms of manpower and logistics. The USA toppled Saddam's regime rather handily, it was holding the nation against rag-tag guerilla bands which caused the most damage to the US forces in Iraq. I can imagine Ukrainians would fight even harder the more of their people get hurt. After this, Russia's military is going to be a skeleton force full of draftees and unwilling combatants. I imagine they'll try to bolster it with mercenaries, but making mercenaries the bread and butter of your army is always a bad idea, since the enemy can always offer them a fatter paycheck to turn on you.
 
They don't have enough men to occupy the country, and the Ukrainian people have high moral. Russian soldiers look demoralised and in rag order.
It's been wild seeing videos of Ukrainians seeming absolutely jovial when chatting with reporters versus the reaction from Russians.

The Russians often seem to just be pissed off that things are going so badly and then struggling to rationalize how the conflict makes sense. One oddity to me has been the increase in this Z meme. Like there seems to have been a push to treat Z as a weird symbol in Russia to mean "Za pobedy" (for victory) or as "Zapad" (West) as a show of support for the war. Just random Russians showing support for this weird invasion.
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All seems absurd how effective propaganda can be in convincing people that what Russia is doing is perfectly sensible.
 
It's been wild seeing videos of Ukrainians seeming absolutely jovial when chatting with reporters versus the reaction from Russians.
That's because most of the Ukrainians still have inner peace, even as their nation is reduced to rubble. Even if they die, their God will welcome them with open arms in the next life, and they're fighting for their fatherland and their families. They know they're on the right side, and even if they die tomorrow, they would have died with clear consciences. Can't say the same for the Russians.

The Russians often seem to just be pissed off that things are going so badly and then struggling to rationalize how the conflict makes sense. One oddity to me has been the increase in this Z meme. Like there seems to have been a push to treat Z as a weird symbol in Russia to mean "Za pobedy" (for victory) or as "Zapad" (West) as a show of support for the war. Just random Russians showing support for this weird invasion.
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All seems absurd how effective propaganda can be in convincing people that what Russia is doing is perfectly sensible.
Goes to show that the Russians can't really justify what's going on and they're trying to grasp at anything that can be a justification for the war.
 
It's been wild seeing videos of Ukrainians seeming absolutely jovial when chatting with reporters versus the reaction from Russians.

The Russians often seem to just be pissed off that things are going so badly and then struggling to rationalize how the conflict makes sense. One oddity to me has been the increase in this Z meme. Like there seems to have been a push to treat Z as a weird symbol in Russia to mean "Za pobedy" (for victory) or as "Zapad" (West) as a show of support for the war. Just random Russians showing support for this weird invasion.
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All seems absurd how effective propaganda can be in convincing people that what Russia is doing is perfectly sensible.
I thought the Z was just to denote Russia forces from a specific front - they used similar Z markings to denote their troops in Syria too.
That's because most of the Ukrainians still have inner peace, even as their nation is reduced to rubble. Even if they die, their God will welcome them with open arms in the next life, and they're fighting for their fatherland and their families. They know they're on the right side, and even if they die tomorrow, they would have died with clear consciences. Can't say the same for the Russians.
More likely it's because they haven't just seen half their friends dead or dying in rasputitsa mud, aren't trying to find any food because their rations are in date, and aren't getting told to fuck off back to Russia by every civilian you bump in to on the way. Never mind getting shot at by the Ukrainian military, and the local farmers who are also taking pot-shots at you, oh and you aren't strapped to a chair facetiming your mother explaining that you got captured by a 50 year old man with a rusty AK.
 


Apparently Russian police are starting to conduct random phone searches for content related to the invasion.

All seems absurd how effective propaganda can be in convincing people that what Russia is doing is perfectly sensible.
Not surprised considering the Russian media is trying really hard to defend its own narrative of a peace mission and military exercise.

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That's because the Ukraine was pursuing illegal nuclearization (much like Israel), leaving Putin with no choice.

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Spoiler alert: Ukraine gained its independence with a nuclear stockpile of roughly 1200+ units. They didn't have to fork over their nukes to Russia in the 90s, they did so because of a (now-broken) security promise from Russia. Also, Japan is a nation without nukes that also has the potential to make nuclear arms because they have a shitload of nuclear power plants just like Ukraine does. If you're gonna make baseless accusations of nuclearisation, be consistent and throw mud on both sides of the aisle.
 
I forget if it’s already been said, but during WW2 the US had people changing the names of hamburgers and sauerkraut to liberty steaks and liberty cabbage. There seems to be a long running tradition of cringe name changes in North America.
Tradition of USA name changes got started with WWI. But the WWI U.S. people made name changes permanent, removed a major language and part of the culture [German] in the country. Which have been the buried hallmark of WWI. Thanks to unending English propaganda throughout WWI portraying the Germans as evil manifested on Earth.

The WWII names changes however have been temporary and the people realize it was cringe and went to undo the damage.
 
Goddamn it, I understand Zelensky is desperate, but doesn't he realise the west can't institute a no fly zone without direct conflict with Russia? Its useless unless its enforced, and enforcing it would involve shooting down Russian aircraft. Therefore world war 3 and all of humanity dying in nuclear hellfire. That includes you and your people, Zelensky.
 
Goddamn it, I understand Zelensky is desperate, but doesn't he realise the west can't institute a no fly zone without direct conflict with Russia? Its useless unless its enforced, and enforcing it would involve shooting down Russian aircraft. Therefore world war 3 and all of humanity dying in nuclear hellfire. That includes you and your people, Zelensky.
I'm sure he does understand, but it doesn't matter. He simply needs reinforcements, but the West is only interested in using him as cannon fodder and he has no leverage to change that. They'll give him all the arms he wants, but not people or coordination.

It's dangerous to be America's enemy, it's deadly to be America's friend.
 
Goddamn it, I understand Zelensky is desperate, but doesn't he realise the west can't institute a no fly zone without direct conflict with Russia? Its useless unless its enforced, and enforcing it would involve shooting down Russian aircraft. Therefore world war 3 and all of humanity dying in nuclear hellfire. That includes you and your people, Zelensky.
The nukes wouldn't go off in Ukraine. They would go off likely in the counties which have nukes so the UK, France and the US or Brussels due to being the location of NATO.
 
I'm sure he does understand, but it doesn't matter. He simply needs reinforcements, but the West is only interested in using him as cannon fodder and he has no leverage to change that. They'll give him all the arms he wants, but not people or coordination.

It's dangerous to be America's enemy, it's deadly to be America's friend.
Japan doesn't seem to think so. If Ukraine joined NATO a lot earlier, say, in the 90s, they wouldn't have this problem.

Or maybe they wouldn't have had a problem at all if they didn't give up their nukes to appease Russia to begin with.
 
Japan doesn't seem to think so. If Ukraine joined NATO a lot earlier, say, in the 90s, they wouldn't have this problem.

Or maybe they wouldn't have had a problem at all if they didn't give up their nukes to appease Russia to begin with.
No, If Ukraine joined NATO in the 90s, this war would have happened in the 90s. It'd actually be a lot worse if they had nukes.
 
No, If Ukraine joined NATO in the 90s, this war would have happened in the 90s. It'd actually be a lot worse if they had nukes.

No it wouldn't. Russia would never attack a nuclear-armed Ukraine. Also, in the 90s, they were in a mess of their own, hardly strong enough to squash uppity neighbors, let alone nations with nukes.
 
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