Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[hooboy]

No, our gas will be a lot cheaper if we buy the Russian oil that nobody is buying and tapped our own supply. Russia taking Ukraine or being in eternal war won't effect the prices in any way. It's not our circus. They aren't our monkeys. I don't want my blood and treasure spent on conflicts that has no significance to anything in my life, nor ever will.

Yeah, I agree that not exploiting domestic oil is stupid, but if you think Russia’s behaviour should be tolerated in anyway by the West you’re a paid shill.

More ignorant sperging from you. Russia has huge reserves of damn near everything and could quite easily be self-sufficient. If Russia chose to start manufacturing in a big way, it would have almost zero need of the outside world.

Lol good luck with that retard

 

[Übertroon]

Reminder that Richard Spencer was always a glowie

 

[No. 7 cat]

It wouldn't surprise me though if they didn't phase them out and let this event take them down completely, they are that fucking delusional. The only thing keeping the fake and gay countries of the west intact is access to cheap food and entertainment and they are in the process of destroying that themselves for their own hysteria.

I am not sure Russia can do that. RU has some who call for an autatarkic system, but that require an acceptance of an even greater degree of poverty. People might notice Putin, his gf, his Patriarch and oligarchs living like deities.

 

[Wy4M]

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This is like that antifastonetoss comic about stonetoss being totally lonely and sad or something
I wish ratings returned here so this could get a well deserved

Here, a bigger resolution.

 

[BradCarter]

Yeah, I agree that not exploiting domestic oil is stupid, but if you think Russia’s behaviour should be tolerated in anyway by the West you’re a paid shill.

Lol good luck with that retard

Right, I'm the shill for saying leave us the fuck alone and let Europe deal with its own problems. Go volunteer if this conflict is so important. I don't want to take any part. Physically or economically.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

Reminder that Richard Spencer was always a glowie
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Richard Spencer reaches his end state of becoming Jonah Goldberg.

 

[Coccxys]

Wake up "American hegemony" is over, it got jizzed up the wall in the late 90s and has been in decline ever since. America has become too reliant on other nations to do shit for them, the only way they can try and do anything to those nations is to punch its own population in the process. America cannot and should not be playing world police, I thought we learnt that in the forever wars (if not before then). Stop larping as a neocon boomer and wake up to the situation you find yourself in today.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

a summary so far. at least the sponsor isn't Curiosity Stream again...

 

[AMHOLIO]

So should I be shitting my pants and screaming now or just shitting my pants and doing nothing as usual?

 

[Wy4M]

Reminder that Richard Spencer was always a glowie
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His ex wife is Nina Bysantine.
Her twatter is suspended but she's always been pro-Russia.




Here she's wearing a St George ribbon.

Spoiler: In case you don't recognize that woman on the right

 

[hooboy]

Right, I'm the shill for saying leave us the fuck alone and let Europe deal with its own problems. Go volunteer if this conflict is so important. I don't want to take any part. Physically or economically.

Ye u r

The reason why we’re paying more for oil is because we don’t want monke war.

Wake up "American hegemony" is over

>World’s largest economy
>Center of global commerce
>by far largest military power
>Economically ravages Russia in days
ok lol

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

Are you sure? American intelligence has predicted the war months ahead of schedule and prepared for this global response years ahead of time.

Dude the Americans are trying to mend relations with Iran and Venezuela, that is like the last resort plan. It screams of desperation. They did not plan or prepare for this at all.

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

Quinnipiac poll asking Americans about whether or not they'd stay and fight or flee the country if the US got invaded like Ukraine. Unsurprisingly, niggers are literally the most likely to leave and the least likely to stay and fight. Almost makes an invasion worthwhile.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

My ass is real chapped over this war. I am sorry, this is going to be a long post.

It shouldn't have happened in the first place.

The US and friends shouldn't have pushed for Ukrainian entry into NATO and the EU. The Ukrainians should have implemented the jointly agreed upon Minsk II declarations, thereby actually re-recognized the Russian language and giving the Russian speaking majority oblasts some limited autonomy. Hell, just a couple months before the invasion kicked off, Ukraine was semi-seriously talking about taking back the Donbas militarily.

Putin has understandable casus belli, if you first understand that he is an old-school "balance of power" acolyte. That line of thinking is not outdated or outmoded. China and Xi Jinping are steeped in it as well. The United States, for all its faults, *used* to understand global geopolitics this way as well.

However, the American understanding changed after the end of the Cold War, if not slightly before. Typified by this change in American foreign policy attitude is the very influential book/articles put out by Francis Fukuyama called the "End of History". An idealistic work to be sure. It was said that every nation would become liberal democracies. Every new liberal democracy would help either directly or indirectly in creating new liberal democracies. Of course all of these new liberal democracies would inherently support America, at least theoretically. And underpinning all this is the absurd notion that liberal democracies won't go to war with each other.

Both American political parties effectively agreed with this. Bush II had "Nation Building" and the "Bush Doctrine", Obama toppled Qaddafi and supported the Arab Spring movements all across the Middle East. The Idea was, completely unironically, that we were going to bring peace to the Middle East, by transforming all these states into liberal democracies.

Russia and China fundamentally see these liberal democracy movements as a threat to their regimes. Because under this "End of History" idea that has been driving foreign policy for decades, it absolutely is. Combine this with the west's refusal to encourage a neutral Ukraine, to the point of actively encouraging it to join fully with the west... well Putins motives are in fact comprehensible.

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Ok, so we are here now, the war is happening.

Putin is more popular than ever at home. The sanctions are ravaging the Russian economy, yet it has cause the vast majority of Russians to rally around Putin in response. Western influence and money is being seen as even more poisonous than before as well. This all will likely permanently kill any chance of reconciliation for a lifetime or more. And Russia has been driven straight into the arms of the Chinese.

But hey, we can take advantage of this situation so long as we increase raw resource production to supplant the Russian/Ukrainian produced resources right?

So of course our glorious leaders have decided that nebulous "climate change" prevents means that we should actually try to further clamp down on mining and manufacturing.

Ignorance or Treason? Who can tell?

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TL ; DR This war could/should have been avoided. And now that there is war, we won't take economic advantage of it because our elites hate us.

 

[Coccxys]

World’s largest economy

Great, not stopped the war in Ukraine has it?

Center of global commerce

Great, not stopped the war in Ukraine has it?

by far largest military power

Great, not stopped the war in Ukraine has it?

Economically ravages Russia in days

Great, not stopped the war in Ukraine has it?

It's over, you are not incharge of the world. Others are increasingly telling you to get fucked on the world stage and all you can do is show your impotent dick and go "but we're murica". At this point you're either a totally out of touch boomer or gimmic poster.

 

[BradCarter]

Ye u r

The reason why we’re paying more for oil is because we don’t want monke war.

>World’s largest economy
>Center of global commerce
>by far largest military power
>Economically ravages Russia in days
ok lol

So Russia is a combination of incompetent, has a terrible military/command and somehow is a threat to America that needs to be stopped at any cost to the average American? Wake the fuck up. It's not our problem. If Putin is a retard like you've claimed then let them Afghanistan Ukraine for the next 25 years. It doesn't effect me.

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

Yeah, I agree that not exploiting domestic oil is stupid, but if you think Russia’s behaviour should be tolerated in anyway by the West you’re a paid shill.

Why do we have to not tolerate Russia's behavior how is this my problem in any way?

 

[Meat Target]

Lol, imagine not understanding that Russia has taken a deliberately measured approach and has also held its best troops in reserve as a defence against attack by NATO forces.

He's still setting his economy on fire and making Russia a pariah state. Even without nukes, Russia can't afford a fight with NATO. NATO has been preparing for a throwdown like that for decades.

Say what you want about Milley or Vindman, or our sandbox misadventures. But the US and NATO forces are designed for conventional warfare, and would curbstomp Russia if it came to that. Especially now that Russia is becoming an overgrown North Korea.

All those rumors about Russian or Chinese Wunderwaffen are just the Pentagon begging for mo' money fo' dem Programs.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

His ex wife is Nina Bysantine.
Her twatter is suspended but she's always been pro-Russia.

Also translated Aleksandr Dugin's works into English.

That was a pretty good pick off by Russia. Send a Russian woman to the politically connected manlet and see what happens.

 

[borsabil]

Reminder that Richard Spencer was always a glowie
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He's a confirmed sodomite. He needs to come clean about sticking objects up his dirty asshole.

Meantime here's an amazing montage of Ukrainian forces taking out Russian positions, including spec-ops.

So far 2.5 million Russian infantry are KIA, counting in the wounded (which are in the tens of millions) more than the entire population of Russia have been taken out by the Ukrainian army.