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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Obviously the globalist choice is Navalny

Navalny Urges Russians To Continue Anti-War Protests That 'Unnerve' Kremlin​


Vanity Fair: How Yulia Navalnaya Became Russia’s Real First Lady​


Navalny is listed a co-founder of Democratic Alternative Movement, which is an NGO who has received funding from the US state National Endowment for Democracy crowd who are basically the CIA's PR and grants team for regime change and sewing seeds of civil unrest in foreign countries.

Evidence of this funding can be found in this leaked Canley.

Navalny is as much of an imperialistic moron as everyone else in Russian government so he's hardly a better choice. If anything he might be worse because at least Putin is ex-KGB and understands politics to some extent.
 
Well…. looks like I’m not gonna be upgrading my technology any time soon. Oh the joys of sanctions and warfare interrupting the global economy.
On the upside, software piracy will probably be bigger than ever before and getting rid of performance intrusive DRM might help with that.
It could be interesting to know who's Putin's choice to piss off the globalists.
Whoever is chosen will have to inherit the mess Putin made so probably someone he hates.
 
Considering Russia just shat the bed trying to defeat a much smaller country in their Blyatzkrieg, it's rather funny that you would say something like this.
Majority of countries still side with the West, or rather, against Russia's unjustifiable act of aggression.
Cope, seethe, dilate, my penis is bigger, Americans are a subhuman, etc
 
Considering Russia just shat the bed trying to defeat a much smaller country in their Blyatzkrieg, it's rather funny that you would say something like this.
It's basically shown to the world that Russia blew its best in the first few days of the war, and now, they're stuck with artillery-striking the odd civilian building because the military targets are too hard for them to take. And all that does is piss off the Ukrainians to the point where they thirst for more Russian blood, so it's not like Russia's accomplishing anything worthwhile.

Majority of countries still side with the West, or rather, against Russia's unjustifiable act of aggression.
It takes a special kind of dipshittery to unite the great majority of the left and the right. Putin accomplished what the "globohomo world order" could not-create a common cause for the world to rally around. Who'd have thought that one vodka-swilling drunk could accomplish in a week what reptile-men politicians and global bankers couldn't do for decades?

China is simply being China, they'll sit on the fence because it's the most beneficial position for them to be in (same goes for the rest, really). Putin been buying their support by selling them off resources for cheap. And needless to say, dictators tend to stick together because no one else likes them.
That, and China is more than likely to take advantage of Russia once Russia completely falls apart. It's as I said; China giving economic support to Russia will make Russia into Northern China.

Just found this article from back in 2014 that talks about the growing geopolitical troubles that were brewing back then in the region, using the Monroe Doctrine to explain why everything the USA was doing at the time was a bad idea. The writer probably has Cassandra Syndrome pretty bad right about now.

The US Needs to Recognize Russia’s Monroe Doctrine
The current U.S. attitude is more than a little hypocritical.
Except as I said, America no longer cares that their former backyard is now full of socialist banana republics who hate the Yankees and who trade with Europe, China, and God knows who else.

So that's a false equivalency. Russia still wants Eastern Europe to be their bitch, while the US no longer cares about what the Spanish-speaking Latin American world does, outside of maybe Cuba. And that's only because the Cuban Communists like Che Guevara wanted to use Russian nukes to blow up New York.
 
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Except as I said, America no longer cares that their former backyard is now full of socialist banana republics who hate the Yankees and who trade with Europe, China, and God knows who else.
Just don't start nationalizing shit owned by US companies and we'll get along just fine. Business is business after all, and communist money spends just as well as capitalist money.

Until it doesn't, but that's a different story and a problem for later...
 
Russo-Japanese kuril island dispute is being brought up with higher frequency in the last few weeks:









this could be sign of vultures circling the power vacuum. Russia has sent entire military bases west toward the buildup prior to invasion. Georgia is another country with more recent terittorial beef, currently x-def minister and his volunteers are in Ukraine and gaining some experience. If this invasion go badly for Russia, those volunteers will be back to Georgia and they may bring their Ukrainian friends with them.
Interestingly, the words Kishida used is a more inflammatory and aggresive words in this issue, "inherent territory". Japan hasn't used this words for a decade ever since Abe tried to butter up Putin to giving up the island. Kishida's choice of words indicated Japan have abandony the idea of friendly approach
>The decree was a follow-up to earlier measures taken by the Kremlin in retaliation for Western sanctions. It described the goal of the commodity-export ban as “ensuring the security of the Russian Federation and the uninterrupted functioning of industry.”
Yes please shoot your economy in the foot even more. Exports only make up like 47% of their GDP, most of which comes from the EU.
The way I see it, from the line of having Putin two days to came up with list of commodities and countries, suggested Russia is threatening the currently hesitant and indecisive EU about banning Russian gas import or not

China Pushes Russia Conspiracy Theory About U.S. Labs in Ukraine​


  • Foreign Ministry urged U.S. to name viruses stored in labs
  • Beijing has yet to call Russia’s military action an ‘invasion’

China accused the U.S. military of operating “dangerous” biolabs in Ukraine, echoing a Russian conspiracy theory that Western officials warned could be part of an effort to retroactively justify President Vladimir Putin’s invasion.

“U.S. biolabs in Ukraine have indeed attracted much attention recently,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said Tuesday in response to a question from a local reporter, adding that “all dangerous pathogens in Ukraine must be stored in these labs and all research activities are led by the U.S. side.”

He called on “relevant sides to ensure the safety of these labs” and said “the U.S., as the party that knows the labs the best, should disclose specific information as soon as possible, including which viruses are stored and what research has been conducted.”

The comments mirror the diversion tactics China’s diplomats used last year when questioned about the origins of Covid-19. Back then they frequently pointed to Fort Detrick, a U.S. military facility in Maryland that the Soviet Union falsely claimed in the 1980s was the source of the virus causing Aids and that Zhao again referenced Tuesday.

Britain’s Defense Ministry said in a Tweet on Tuesday that it had noticed an up-tick in allegations by Russia that Ukraine is working on biological or nuclear weapons. “These narratives are long standing but are currently likely being amplified as part of a retrospective justification for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine,” it added.

Since 1991, a unit of the Department of Defense has cooperated with former satellites of the Soviet Union, including Ukraine, to secure and take apart weapons of mass destruction that have been left behind.

The Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction Program is intended to “support defense and military cooperation with the objective of preventing proliferation,” according to U.S. non-profit organization the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation.

China has walked a fine diplomatic line since Russia attacked Ukraine. It has in recent years been making the case that as a richer, more powerful nation it deserves a bigger say on the world stage. Yet it also wants the benefits of closer ties with Moscow, largely to offset what it sees as Washington’s undue influence.

Zhao repeated at the press briefing that China’s position on Ukraine remains “consistent and clear cut,” signaling that the Asian nation is still trying to avoid picking a side on the issue.
When asked whether China was ready to say that Russia had “invaded” its Eastern European neighbor, Zhao said: “I don’t think the question is of any point.”

I was going to say this might mean China is finally fully committing in supporting Russia, then I remembered this is actually more in line with them trying to blame US for the Covid. So anyone who believe this shit, especially after China's push, is just an idiot who eat the Chinese lies wholesale

In fact, now that I'm thinking about it again, China's push actually made the Russian Biolab claim even more of a lie because China's Covid claim
Which bring us the next question: which guy is the more suitable to succeed to Putin?
This is a very interesting question, though so far the West hasn't indicated who their choice is going to be. I'm thinking they're probably still deciding on who though, if things unfolded that way
 
I actually think the biolab shit is probably credible but you are right that China is only doing this to take the heat off themselves for the coof plus their involvement might ironically end up causing this shit to backfire since people will discredit the idea by association.
This is why I'm thinking why Russia-China alliance won't last long or will go as smooth as some people are thinking. China is not a very good ally to have. They have too many dirty baggage to carry, and they have goals that sometimes doesn't even make sense to anyone but the Chinese. And above all else, they always wanted things to stay in a status quo that benefits them, owing to their Confucian society. There's a reason why Sino-Soviet split happened besides the ideological ones
 
@Rezza Darn quote bug again.
Interestingly, the words Kishida used is a more inflammatory and aggresive words in this issue, "inherent territory". Japan hasn't used this words for a decade ever since Abe tried to butter up Putin to giving up the island. Kishida's choice of words indicated Japan have abandony the idea of friendly approach
"Hmmm, those are some nice islands of Japan's you have there. Its such a shame you don't have any working carriers in the area and we have two multi-mission destroyers that just so happen to be capable of launching F-35B's. I wonder how the Russian Navy will react to being told they've been ordered on a second Voyage of the Damned, should we accidentally land some Marines on the islands during a routine training exercise?"
This is a very interesting question, though so far the West hasn't indicated who their choice is going to be. I'm thinking they're probably still deciding on who though, if things unfolded that way
I don't really think there's anyone. Navalny is too obvious as the West's choice and besides, I think its plain to see that he's been cucked by the FSB's constant not-quite-assassination attempts into being controlled opposition. Anyone stronger would have already been removed by Putin for the obvious reason of tyrants not living long once someone is powerful enough to be considered a potential successor.
 
This is why I'm thinking why Russia-China alliance won't last long or will go as smooth as some people are thinking. China is not a very good ally to have. They have too many dirty baggage to carry, and they have goals that sometimes doesn't even make sense to anyone but the Chinese. And above all else, they always wanted things to stay in a status quo that benefits them, owing to their Confucian society. There's a reason why Sino-Soviet split happened besides the ideological ones


I cant seem to reply to your earlier post, but thanks for that info on the Japanese island. If im not mistaken, Ive heard that Japan is low key freezing immigration and trying to clamp down on foreigners lately...
 
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I cant seem to reply to your earlier post, but thanks for that info on the Japanese island. If im not mistaken, Ive heard that Japan is low key freezing immigration and trying to clamp down on foreigners lately...
That's more because of Covid, and less about the war. They've basically isolated themselves, but I heard they're already easing up the restrictions recently
 
I cant seem to reply to your earlier post, but thanks for that info on the Japanese island. If im not mistaken, Ive heard that Japan is low key freezing immigration and trying to clamp down on foreigners lately...
Can't blame them, considering that there's barely enough room for Japanese people in Japan. But with their shitty population replacement numbers, that's a problem that will solve itself with time.

@Rezza Darn quote bug again.

"Hmmm, those are some nice islands of Japan's you have there. Its such a shame you don't have any working carriers in the area and we have two multi-mission destroyers that just so happen to be capable of launching F-35B's. I wonder how the Russian Navy will react to being told they've been ordered on a second Voyage of the Damned, should we accidentally land some Marines on the islands during a routine training exercise?"
That would be a cause for another humiliation of Russia's once-proud military might.

I don't really think there's anyone. Navalny is too obvious as the West's choice and besides, I think its plain to see that he's been cucked by the FSB's constant not-quite-assassination attempts into being controlled opposition. Anyone stronger would have already been removed by Putin for the obvious reason of tyrants not living long once someone is powerful enough to be considered a potential successor.
The best thing the West can do is maybe rely on some Russian oligarch who got kicked out of the country and maybe rope him in with an idealist, maybe a leading member of the protesters who are now disappearing?
 
That would be a cause for another humiliation of Russia's once-proud military might.
I mean, the Russian Navy is already an embarrassment and has been since the days of the Czars, so its not like it would be anything new there. Besides, the last time Russia and Japan went at it without a third party intervening the Russians got mauled so badly even Stalin, a man most definitely not fond of the Romanov Dynasty, wound up taking it personally as an insult to all of Russia when he took power. And if the Russians can't power project into a bordering nation, they sure as hell can't project across the seas. You know it, I know it, the Japanese know it, and I most definitely hope Putin knows it.
The best thing the West can do is maybe rely on some Russian oligarch who got kicked out of the country and maybe rope him in with an idealist, maybe a leading member of the protesters who are now disappearing?
Doubtful. Those exiles would all be seen as Western puppets, and lets be honest, they actually would be, or close enough the difference doesn't matter.
 
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I mean, the Russian Navy is already an embarrassment and has been since the days of the Czars, so its not like it would be anything new there. Besides, the last time Russia and Japan went at it without a third party intervening the Russians got mauled so badly even Stalin, a man most definitely not fond of the Romanov Dynasty, wound up taking it personally as an insult to all of Russia when he took power. And if the Russians can't power project into a bordering nation, they sure as hell can't project across the seas. You know it, I know it, the Japanese know it, and I most definitely hope Putin knows it.
Considering he didn't know most of his army wasn't as tough as he thought it was, I highly doubt it.

Doubtful. Those exiles would all be seen as Western puppets, and lets be honest, they actually would be, or close enough the difference doesn't matter.
I suppose so. Being western puppets would most likely tarnish their rule.

Zelensky's impatience with NATO not establishing a no-fly zone over Ukraine seems to have paid off for Putin:

Looks like Putin might get his desire for Ukraine not joining NATO and the recognition of the eastern breakaway states after all.

However, that doesn't seem to stop other nations from joining NATO anyways:


Hey, you win some, you lose some, amirite?
 
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@Rezza Darn quote bug again.

"Hmmm, those are some nice islands of Japan's you have there. Its such a shame you don't have any working carriers in the area and we have two multi-mission destroyers that just so happen to be capable of launching F-35B's. I wonder how the Russian Navy will react to being told they've been ordered on a second Voyage of the Damned, should we accidentally land some Marines on the islands during a routine training exercise?"
Your jumping over the part where the Russian Far East Fleet is first either sunken, captured or bottled up in port. If we're repeating history and all that jazz.
 
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I was going to say this might mean China is finally fully committing in supporting Russia, then I remembered this is actually more in line with them trying to blame US for the Covid. So anyone who believe this shit, especially after China's push, is just an idiot who eat the Chinese lies wholesale

In fact, now that I'm thinking about it again, China's push actually made the Russian Biolab claim even more of a lie because China's Covid claim
The irony is killing me, we should rename "Tu Quoque" to the "No U" policy.
 
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This is floating around. It is apparently an official picture of Putin in a meeting with Senior advisors this morning or yesterday. And supposedly it's not fake. The internet is already gloriously Mem'ing it. But it's hard to top what it actually is.
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Looks like somebody's afraid of a little polonium or novichok poisoning! Not so scared when it was Navalny or Litvinenko, were you?
 
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