Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Suburban Bastard]

Well, now that things really are going downhill for Ukraine regarding Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) let's have a discussion regarding Russia's endgame victory lap. Because we don't know if what they claim they want is actually their main goal.

With Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) nearing encirclement within the next couple days, what do you Ukraine's fate will be?

Either peace deal that keeps current Ukrainian government with the three territories conceded, or guerrilla warfare conflict that Russia will undoubtedly lose.

 

[AssManWaitingInTheSkies]

Well, people here seemed to be using it as a claim that Russian casualties were inflated and Ukrainians were totally lying. Now that the realization settled in that this isn't necessarily what is being claimed, people are backpedaling real quick.

For the record, Russia is still gonna take this, it just seems that the Ukrainians aren't BSing about making it extremely painful for them.

Hohols are still bullshitting about lotta stuff. Like the phonecall recordings straight from the frontline. All of that stuff while carrying a smartphone is prohibited in russkie's army. That being said, stuff's still under a fog of war and up to debate.

 

[Aidan]

Fun fact: If you are mentioning it in Poland right now, you are officially considered a Russian Bot, or when they can't prove that you're a bot, a paid Kremlin shill or a retard brainwashed by antivaxers and/or anti-Ukrainian Russian propaganda.

Also, I can't say I like the combination of "if you say anything deviating from the CNN narrative you're a Putinbot" + you must love Ukraine which is more important than Poland and the law that gives the armed forces of the US, the UK and Canada of all countries all prerogatives of the police in Poland (including the right to use lethal force).

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1939 vibes.


That's quite similar to the Polish government's take on the war for the first 2 weeks. Then they fled to Romania.

This has been going on for years due to Trump's election. Ever since the narrative was pushed that Russia decided Putin helped Trump get elected insane people online have called dissenting voices Russian bots.
I don't think they know what bots even are as even when people reply going "I'm not a bot, what?" they get ganged up on and repeatedly called a bot... It's fucking weird.

I haven't checked since a lot of places this used to happen have disabled or locked down their comments but I imagine this has amplified as retards continue to not understand what bots are and ignore the more genuine 50 Cent Army's existence.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Well, now that things really are going downhill for Ukraine regarding Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) let's have a discussion regarding Russia's endgame victory lap. Because we don't know if what they claim they want is actually their main goal.

With Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) nearing encirclement within the next couple days, what do you Ukraine's fate will be?

Serious answer: I think Ukraine will still put up a fight, but losing the capital is a major blow to morale

Meme answer: Ukraine will retake Kiev, then storm Moscow like the October Revolution, leaving no survivors

 

[Suburban Bastard]

All of that stuff while carrying a smartphone is prohibited in russkie's army.

So in other words, about thousands of violators?

 

[Dave_Ph]

How could NBC News dare to report this. How could people forget about it
Graham was in Ukraine supporting the overthrow of the government of Ukraine with McCain
Little Lindsey has been a busy young lady in Ukraine

"When Sen. John McCain traveled to Kiev in December, he told the crowd of 200,000 on Independence Square: "The free world is with you, America is with you, I am with you."
among those stood next to the veteran Republican was Oleh Tyahnybok, leader of the Svoboda Party. Some policy analysts have called Svoboda ultra-nationalist and even neo-Nazi."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna66061

 

[Particle Bored]

24 hours later: Premium is now over $6.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

Well, now that things really are going downhill for Ukraine regarding Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) let's have a discussion regarding Russia's endgame victory lap. Because we don't know if what they claim they want is actually their main goal.

With Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) nearing encirclement within the next couple days, what do you Ukraine's fate will be?

Complete physical removal of the hohol race will be the only thing that will appease me after being forced to read the Sheev Independent twitter feed for what has been two weeks and will be at least two more. I'll settle for the public execution of the Ukraine state twitter account owner though.

 

[Ward]

So in other words, about thousands of violators?

More than that. Thing is, for every Russian soldier there is a dedicated glowie monitoring his social media accounts, not to enforce a ban on smartphones or anything, but for some retard not to post shit like their positions, or hardware like guns and tanks and shit. Phone leniency in units themselves varies from unit to unit.

 

[Jump]

Their credit score dropped to a C in a manner of two weeks lol

Might as well be F. Doesn't matter now since the western banking system cut off to them.

Its like that old saying: If I owe the bank $500 I have a problem. If I owe the bank 500 million then the BANK has a problem.
Western banks have zero power to go in to Russia and seize assets. The banks will take a massive haircut on any Russian debt owed just like all the western oil companies who had to just eat the billions from walking away from their stakes in Russian assets.

They got Daddy Xi now to give them loans against their energy and minerals. Any debt owned to China will be paid in oil since the ruble is fucked for now.

 

[Corpun]

Well, now that things really are going downhill for Ukraine regarding Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) let's have a discussion regarding Russia's endgame victory lap. Because we don't know if what they claim they want is actually their main goal.

With Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) nearing encirclement within the next couple days, what do you Ukraine's fate will be?

Zelensky realizes he is a retard and attempts to get a peace that benefits him too little too late, as Russia has all the justification for a regime change now if they want it. At best for the Ukies Russia takes or sets up as puppets lands in Eastern Ukraine, maybe just the Donbass area, maybe more.

I've heard some talk here about Russia annexing land above Crimea as a sort of buffer but I don't know if they will take it.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

So while this thread is circling the wheels until another BIG HAPPENING occurs, I'm going to just go off and state that while Russia is going to break off huge chunks of Ukraine, it's going to be extremely costly for them, even with Chinese help. Because people are going to see what China is doing to aid Russia, and all that anti-Russia hysteria might just start bleeding into anti-China sentiment as well. China is, in all likelihood, going to start taking sanctions up the ass for helping Russia.

Apparently, they're worried about the labs falling into Russian hands. If the research they're doing is benign, then why would they care?

To play devil's advocate, it's to make sure that Russia doesn't use the bio-research to make the next COVID.

 

[Rezza]

Well, now that things really are going downhill for Ukraine regarding Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) let's have a discussion regarding Russia's endgame victory lap. Because we don't know if what they claim they want is actually their main goal.

With Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) nearing encirclement within the next couple days, what do you Ukraine's fate will be?

There are only three options available: occupation, puppet, concession

Occupation is basically what it says, Russian occupying the country. Considering Putin is doubling down "demiliterization" and "denazitification" of the country, I'm not surprised if he will do that. But this option is very expensive, and would involve massive amount of resources and manpower that I doubt Russia would have, especially if the Ukrainian entered a state of insurgency against the Russian. This path will involve even bigger sanctions against Russia, and I don't know if Russian economy can hold against even more burden than they already has

Puppet is propping up a puppet government in Ukraine after rounding up Zelenskiy and other government element. Not surprised either if he will do this since many have speculated "denazitification" goal of the invasion was to purge Ukraine of pro-west politicians. The question now would be how would the Ukrainian people react to this, would they still keep their will to fight? If so, then I can see the puppet government going to lose in not a long time, especially if the West is still willing to supply the Ukrainian and keep their sanction on Russia and their puppet

Lastly is concession, Putin made peace with Zelenskiy or whoever remained after this war. This most definitely going to involve lots of territorial concession and treaty. But what are the terms that will be acceptable for both Ukraine and Russia? And would the West kept their sanction if Putin chose this path? No one knows

(There's another option and that is continuing their invasion to Moldova while they have the army there. This is crazy, but you never knew. People thought invading Ukraine was crazy, and yet here we are)

 

[Kane Lives]

Well, now that things really are going downhill for Ukraine regarding Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) let's have a discussion regarding Russia's endgame victory lap. Because we don't know if what they claim they want is actually their main goal.

With Kyiv (or Kiev whatever) nearing encirclement within the next couple days, what do you Ukraine's fate will be?

I wager a negotiated settlement is likely. Ukraine's south-eastern and eastern portions get either autonomous status, or outright independence into Russian-aligned states which naturally nobody will recognise except for Russia.

Don't see Putin trying to go for the Western portion, anti-Russian sentiment is too thick and resistance (and resentment) will build the further west he pushes. The big question is Kiev. Does he intend to annex or puppet the city? It might have been the cradle of Rus but it's also firmly hohol-land at this point.

 

[Dave_Ph]

There's only one thing worse than accidentally seeing Hannity.
That's seeing Hannity interview Lindsey Graham

 

[XYZpdq]

How could NBC News dare to report this. How could people forget about it
Graham was in Ukraine supporting the overthrow of the government of Ukraine with McCain
Little Lindsey has been a busy young lady in Ukraine

"When Sen. John McCain traveled to Kiev in December, he told the crowd of 200,000 on Independence Square: "The free world is with you, America is with you, I am with you."
among those stood next to the veteran Republican was Oleh Tyahnybok, leader of the Svoboda Party. Some policy analysts have called Svoboda ultra-nationalist and even neo-Nazi."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna66061

seriously can Ukraine go, like a day or two without literal unironic nazis?
please?

 

[AssManWaitingInTheSkies]

So in other words, about thousands of violators?

This isn't a social distancing campaign, it's an army. I doubt they'll have any opportunity to hide their phones and sim-cards from being taken.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

I wager a negotiated settlement is likely. Ukraine's south-eastern and eastern portions get either autonomous status, or outright independence into Russian-aligned states which naturally nobody will recognise except for Russia.

Don't see Putin trying to go for the Western portion, anti-Russian is too thick and resistance (and resentment) will build, the further west he pushes. The big question is Kiev. Does he intend to annex or puppet the city? It might have been the cradle of Rus but it's also firmly hohol-land at this point.

Putin is best off joining the parts of Ukraine that were "pro-Russian" in 2014 or so into a new state ("New Russia"), or just annexing them altogether.

 

[Cool Dog]

So I finally listened to the Mearsheimer talks and there are some surprises there

I didnt know that the ukies were actually going a bit nazi with ukie-russkies forcing them to speak ukranian and shit. Thought the "they are natzis!" shit from the vatniks was just a WWII larp but as it turns out those azov niggers with the black suns are not heckin cute and valid like reddit told me

Also russia has been saying for like 15 years that they are gonna fuck ukraine up for real if the west actually tries to get there. The irony is that neither nato nor the EU wanted ukraine, place its too corrupt, too economically backwards, so all the offers were pure smoke, the ukies were never gonna get shit from the west

And now the ugly part: seems the russian early warning alert system its kinda shit and its prone to false alerts, so much that the burgermutts decided to not do a ballistic missile test recently out of fear that it would make the russkies decide its the Day Of The Grill

Point is theres a possibility that nukes will fly, and between russkies still having the dead hand online and the west no longer caring about shit like fallout shelters and drills WWIII might be worse than it woulda been during the cold war

McDonald's is a franchising business, so they don't actually own those locations. If this is true, and they are going to force those licensees to shut down the locations and fuck up their livelihood. This will not really hurt McDonalds as a company themselves, it's just a weak virtue signal. They are just going to sacrifice a couple of small businesses. (licensees usually own just one restaurant)

Nigger you think they're not gonna feel 850 franchises suddenly disappearing?

Turns out my prediction that Putin might have cancerAIDs may actually be true after all, it would explain this very sudden & seemingly underprepared invasion if he were dying as it's literally his last chance to take Ukraine by force before he croaks. Reports are alleging he has bowel cancer.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/mad-vlad-western-intelligence-suggests-putin-terminally-ill-reports

I also wouldn't be too surprised if it turned out he had formally diagnosed dementia instead, and either decided to start the war with Ukraine before his mind deteriorates beyond the ability to direct & control his own armies or he mentally declined to the point he just thought it was a good idea to go ahead with the war without making sure the tires were rotated.

If he's really dying then they might decide to go out with a blast and take the entire northern hemisphere with him

What are YOUR honest thoughts about this whole conflict? Like how do you guys feel about it?

I feel like for the first time of my life being on the literal ass-end of the planet has its benefits since if all you niggers decide to anhero each other this half of the world will be mostly intact, "mostly" because the kangaroo fuckers in straya and the hobbit island are gonna get nuked because they are part of the five eyes and shit

 

[moocow]

Prius is a hybrid. Its battery is 6.something kwh.
Tesla'a are like 70-90

The battery is just used for light load in a Prius. The ICE is always there to do the heavy work and recharge the battery on the go. When the battery is completely worn out the gas powered ICE just runs all the time. But the car still moves.
In a Tesla the battery has to do everything because there is no ICE. It is much bigger and you can't keep using the car when it fails.

True, though the Prius Prime (the plug-in version of the Prius) doubles the battery size and can run 25+ miles at highway speeds on battery power alone. Given how much shit I've heard about Teslas, it really seems like gas/electric hybrids like the Prius are a much better bet.