When did you hit peak furry and why? - When a subculture is so incredibly weird and toxic that you want to have nothing to do with it

[Kiwi & Cow]

The vast majority of furries are insufferable assholes or manchildren riddled in fetishes who can't keep it to themselves. Not only that, but I've noticed time and time again that they're ticking time bombs who will eventually do something very gross or dumb. Literally an entire forum here is dedicated to them because there's never one day where all the furfags are actually acting like nice normal people.

And the worst part of it all, they never hold themselves accountable whenever a furry Zoophile is found or whatever, it's always duh haterz they complain about. They are cool with Zoophiles in their subculture, but whenever that's pointed out they start throwing a tirade that can be summed in "not all furries are like that". It's just tiring to even try to speak to these child brains.

I think the worst part of them being furries is when they just wear their mascot costume in public, it's like the furry version of exhibitionism. Their lifestyle is a fetish and for whatever reason they want absolutely everyone around them to know about it.

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

somewhere around 1991 when some faggot at the train station told me he wears a fursuit .... and would I "like to go for a walk with him" like sure cunt jog on FFS

*edit* no I've got a fair few more years on me than that ...somewhat normal situation ... it was more he was looking for some rough trade to pound him into oblivion ... not the kind of chin checkin you get Golden Gloves for either .. though he did come close to getting that. I can only imagine it was the last time he tried to chat up a baldie in boots.

 

[Queen Elizabeth II]

Despite my avatar, I'm not a furry. I have noticed a trend however in what I've seen of the fandom online and my few interactions with students who I've had reason to believe are furries.

= The furry fandom is a fandom of developmentally delayed rejects, and quite often it's the first place they've been where there are people weirder and more awkward than they are. And in a fandom of rejects, the cardinal sin is rejecting others. Everything is stunning, everything is brave and valid and to suggest something is unacceptable; such as being a conservative who might not want unlimited immigration makes you a rapist nazi shitlord.

=The fandom is also "the scene lite edition". It's full of faggots, but unlike the "mainstream" scene like Grindr its not full of 18 year old skeletal twink meat or daddies who spend 40 hours a week in the gym photoshopped to death that make everyone feel inadequate. No, it's full of less attractive and more flawed people who are more "achievable". This is probably the most charitable way I can describe it, it's full of people with a complicated cocktail of mental health and autism issues that can't really maintain a relationship in the long term.

=The fandom is a result of modernity. The "UwU Snuggles" culture exists to a far lesser extent in the scene of older LGB but it is present, because some of the older ones have actually faced shunning and real adversity as a result of being a faggot. It flourishes in the fandom on steroids however because most young adults, let alone most furries, have never had a long term stable friendship IMO and then suddenly lookie here; everyone wants to be your friend.

=And there's the problem. When your entire friendship bubble is rested on unquestionable acceptance of everyone in it, even if the said person rapes dogs, these retarded/shy/awkward people don't speak up.

The big one that fascinates me is the fursuits, and I do have a theory on that. The fursonas they make are OC's that are often projections of what they wish they were, and the fursuits give them the capacity to take that anonymity and the safety of a mask outside into the real world. To act without inhibition as they really wish they could.

I'm getting this idea from play therapy that's often used with people, usually children, who've suffered childhood trauma. Sometimes people can't bear to say or express certain ideas about themselves. So if the dolly says that Daddy touched Sally at night, rather than Sally herself somehow in the childs mind Sally hasn't broken any promises that she may have made. Similarly; Sally might be too scared to talk to other children to their faces but if she speaks indirectly through the doll, that takes a lot of the pressure off and can allow them to be far more forward about their feelings than they could be in any other context.

Just my ramblings. I don't hate furries, the more I see of them online the more I understand why they exist.

I still don't like them, it's fucking creepy, but I can see how they end up there.

 

[Desu Mountain]

Two words: Shitting Dicknipples. That picture was my first exposure to anything furry related and it was all it took.

 

[Meat Target]

The first time I ever encountered them in the wild.

Spoiler: War story time

When I was in middle school, my family and I were returning home from visiting relatives in the South, but missed our connecting flight in Atlanta. It was late at night, and there were no flights to our city until morning.

So we're tired, stranded, and have no choice but to spend the night in a ghetto hotel. What could make it go from hard mode to nightmare? A furry convention in the hotel lobby.

 

[Shig O'nella]

When? About 30 seconds after I found out they existed, so early 90s. It's not even the degeneracy - people can do what the fuck they like in private as long as it's consensual, it's just there's something about someone wanting to be an animal that really pisses me off.

 

[The Great Citracett]

I've never liked furries, but there's one memorable incident from SomethingAwful that stands out. This was at least 10 years ago.

Can't remember what the thread was about. Unsettling photos, or PYF A/U/G maybe, but someone posted a pic of a little kid petting a crouching furry in a dog suit. Some goon remarks how creepy the photo is, because it would be easy for a pedo to molest children by dressing up in a fursuit.

Cue the furries rushing in to defend their honor and non-pedoness. They proceed to explain that's fursecution, and simply wrong and in fact impossible, because how could a furry possibly get any pleasure from touching children with fursuit gloves on?

 

[Blacklight]

I'm a furry myself, and I like to believe that my browsing on sites like 4chan, and the Kiwi Farms have both taught me the most important lesson when it comes to not becoming a lolcow myself. Having self-introspection. Being self-aware of what you're doing tends to stop the harshest of lolcow tendencies.

It also helps when the majority of the worst offenders are leftist whackjobs, and I'm slightly right leaning. Saying you voted for Trump in the fandom is enough to get some people to try to 'kick' you out of the fandom.

 

[Some Badger]

Probably around 2017 back in college when I became acquainted with a living stereotype of what non-furries perceive furries to be. I met this guy at a general meeting in my school’s vidya club who was this short, gangly, acne-ridden, implicitly autistic sex pest with a reputation for begging men on campus to fuck him even though he was supposedly in a committed e-relationship with a man nearly ten years his senior in the Netherlands (which lasted like 8 months btw). He was very, very vocal about his kinks and would excitedly bring up BDSM and wanting to get rawdogged in polite conversation. It would me more amusing if he wasn’t an education major.

This guy would frequent the commuter lounge in the student union and basically go out of his way to piss everyone off by being a creep to the point that only the other furry outcasts would bother associating with him. That’s when I realized that furries on the whole will provide a social niche for each other no matter how despicable they are as people.

Finding out the fandom is full of maladjusted people like this dude who are encouraged to never improve themselves and are never called out on their behavior is what made me realize that furries aren’t actually harmless weirdos with gross fetishes, and they will cover the asses of literal rapists if they make good art or have a cute fursona or whatever. I’ve kinda kept myself at an arm’s length from the fandom at all times since.

 

[gang weeder]

Aren't you the closed doors guy in the other thread about fags, OP? Oy vey, muh closed doors. Furries yiff behind closed doors so don't judge, bigot. Just Let People Enjoy Things. I promise you there is a big overlap between furries and faggots BTW.

 

[BelUwUga]

It was actually the very first time I was introduced to the idea of furries, on /b/ of course. There was an image of two stunningly high quality mascots that were having homosex. The text below read: "THE FIRST RULE OF FURFAGGOTRY IS THAT THERE IS NO RECOVERY!" Luckily this was right around the time I had finally developed a sense for those "the void is staring back" type moments. I decided to heed those sacred words for my own sanity's sake. Not once have I regretted the decision.

 

[Jason Wynn]

I used to live in Portland (I could end the story there and I’m sure everyone would still be satisfied)

One summer years and years back, two friends and I were downtown checking out the Portland Saturday Market for the afternoon. There’s a restaurant nearby called The Roxy that caters to all the degenerates. Near the restaurant were a group of furries, a few in full blown fur suits. They kept running up to random people hugging them, dry humping their legs, crawling on the ground after them, one came up and tried tickling me. After being yelled and cursed at, they scattered

That was my one experience with furries in the wild and I’ve found that behavior is the norm with them

 

[Dialtone]

Despite my avatar, I'm not a furry. I have noticed a trend however in what I've seen of the fandom online and my few interactions with students who I've had reason to believe are furries.

= The furry fandom is a fandom of developmentally delayed rejects, and quite often it's the first place they've been where there are people weirder and more awkward than they are. And in a fandom of rejects, the cardinal sin is rejecting others. Everything is stunning, everything is brave and valid and to suggest something is unacceptable; such as being a conservative who might not want unlimited immigration makes you a rapist nazi shitlord.

=The fandom is also "the scene lite edition". It's full of faggots, but unlike the "mainstream" scene like Grindr its not full of 18 year old skeletal twink meat or daddies who spend 40 hours a week in the gym photoshopped to death that make everyone feel inadequate. No, it's full of less attractive and more flawed people who are more "achievable". This is probably the most charitable way I can describe it, it's full of people with a complicated cocktail of mental health and autism issues that can't really maintain a relationship in the long term.

=The fandom is a result of modernity. The "UwU Snuggles" culture exists to a far lesser extent in the scene of older LGB but it is present, because some of the older ones have actually faced shunning and real adversity as a result of being a faggot. It flourishes in the fandom on steroids however because most young adults, let alone most furries, have never had a long term stable friendship IMO and then suddenly lookie here; everyone wants to be your friend.

=And there's the problem. When your entire friendship bubble is rested on unquestionable acceptance of everyone in it, even if the said person rapes dogs, these retarded/shy/awkward people don't speak up.

The big one that fascinates me is the fursuits, and I do have a theory on that. The fursonas they make are OC's that are often projections of what they wish they were, and the fursuits give them the capacity to take that anonymity and the safety of a mask outside into the real world. To act without inhibition as they really wish they could.

I'm getting this idea from play therapy that's often used with people, usually children, who've suffered childhood trauma. Sometimes people can't bear to say or express certain ideas about themselves. So if the dolly says that Daddy touched Sally at night, rather than Sally herself somehow in the childs mind Sally hasn't broken any promises that she may have made. Similarly; Sally might be too scared to talk to other children to their faces but if she speaks indirectly through the doll, that takes a lot of the pressure off and can allow them to be far more forward about their feelings than they could be in any other context.

Just my ramblings. I don't hate furries, the more I see of them online the more I understand why they exist.

I still don't like them, it's fucking creepy, but I can see how they end up there.

And there's the problem. When your entire friendship bubble is rested on unquestionable acceptance of everyone in it, even if the said person rapes dogs, these retarded/shy/awkward people don't speak up.

This one is the crux of the problem, one needs the ability to tell others to fuck off if they're a bother or a creep, but the second you do that you're kicked out for being Hitler 2.0 usually by a mod who's equally as bad if not worse, and often defending the offender.

I often wonder if people who like furries get off to what little power they have over their fans/"friends" because they're so easy to push around or convince them that you're their friend.

 

[Some Badger]

This one is the crux of the problem, one needs the ability to tell others to fuck off if they're a bother or a creep, but the second you do that you're kicked out for being Hitler 2.0 usually by a mod who's equally as bad if not worse, and often defending the offender.

I often wonder if people who like furries get off to what little power they have over their fans/"friends" because they're so easy to push around or convince them that you're their friend.

I agree, the general permissiveness and saccharine levels of faux-affirmative positivity makes it hard to say 'no' without risking them blowing up in your face or worse. Fuck man, you can't even tell some people in the fandom that you're strictly monogamous without them throwing a tantrum. It creates this atmosphere where you're constantly unsure if the person behind the screen is gonna pop off if you deny them their sweet, sweet dopamine hit. It's why I have never understood ERPing with strangers, even back when I thought the most cringe furries were ultimately harmless lolcows.

Actually, while I'm on the subject of monogamy, I've noticed that more furries are engaging in poly e-relationships over the past couple of years. From the ones that I've come across on Twitter, the common factors are that they're very rarely older than 25, identify as either gay or pansexual, frequently visit cons and and their little online polycule is defined by a handful of often extremely niche fetishes and the video games they play, and not much else beyond that.

 

[Dialtone]

I agree, the general permissiveness and saccharine levels of faux-affirmative positivity makes it hard to say 'no' without risking them blowing up in your face or worse. Fuck man, you can't even tell some people in the fandom that you're strictly monogamous without them throwing a tantrum. It creates this atmosphere where you're constantly unsure if the person behind the screen is gonna pop off if you deny them their sweet, sweet dopamine hit. It's why I have never understood ERPing with strangers, even back when I thought the most cringe furries were ultimately harmless lolcows.

Actually, while I'm on the subject of monogamy, I've noticed that more furries are engaging in poly e-relationships over the past couple of years. From the ones that I've come across on Twitter, the common factors are that they're very rarely older than 25, identify as either gay or pansexual, frequently visit cons and and their little online polycule is defined by a handful of often extremely niche fetishes and the video games they play, and not much else beyond that.

It's addict behavior, and it eventually encompasses their entire personality.

 

[W00K #17]

I found furries weird and repulsive from the moment I first heard about them, and my initial impression has only grown stronger with everything I have ever seen about them since.

 

[Tism the Return]

Furries have always been disgusting and they should be shamed into hiding much like fags and lesbians were back in the day. Alternatively they can come out in the open with the full knowledge that they'll be hunted down like the degenerates they are.

 

[potato in mah painus]

My job leaves me interacting with them on a constant basis, to
the point I would consider myself part furry as a result.
Its the god damn two faced politics that has infested the fandom that makes me hate it, it went from 'tolerance to a fault' into 'all who oppose are bigots and must be silenced'.

The best part is some of the most vocal in the community regarding this topic are starting to get the very censorship they championed turned on them, getting exactly what they deserve.

 

[L50LasPak]

There was this understanding in my time that you were supposed to be tolerant towards furries if you were a science fiction fan, especially if you were into classic sci-fi since furries as a subcultural thing can trace their genesis back to the 1960s and 1970s science fiction convention culture. If you hung out with any other group of nerds there would usually be one or two furries included who were mostly identical to you and the rest of the people in the group, they just... wanted to be fox people. Or wolf people. Or whatever. Fine, big deal, let Rick play the werewolf in D&D, who cares.

Turns out though that when those spaces were eventually invaded by Redditors, shills and other miserable people to be around that furries went full turncoat on the rest of us. They basically sold out, moved to Tumblr, Twitter and eventually Discord and became front line soldiers in the whole genderspecial culture war. Mainstream furries nowadays will stick up for any bullshit virtue signaling cause you can think of. You name it and they're there and ready to die for it, as long as its woke and has a hashtag. Their art has also gotten horrendously childish. I'm aware a large number of furries grew up wanting to fuck cartoon characters, but the styles have only been getting more neon and babyish every time I make the mistake of glancing in Animal Control's direction. even before news of Zoosadism broke I knew something wasn't right.

Basically, short version is, furries are a bunch of outcasts and social rejects us oldschool SF fans were encouraged to give a second chance because nobody else ever did. It turns out, no, they're outcasts for a good reason. Fuckin traitors.

 

[Chicken Neck Nelly]

When I was in the throes of adolescence and impetuously made passionate love to a teddy bear one lonely summer eve