It seems likely Creepy Joe will benefit from their analysis, since Kimberly Kagan's brother-in-law is married to Victoria Nuland, who warned about the Russians overrunning Ukie biolabs. I guess the neocon/neolib warhawks are at least competent at cataloguing their favourite subject.
Because we live in a world where the leadership have completely divorced themselves from any semblance of reality. There are no adults in the room, there are no reasonable discussions. The Entire world is run by Idiot Faggot (wo)man children.
It was from Wikipedia to be honest and the Youtube comments section.
I am also aware overall the Germans were doomed as soon as they decided to go for Russia rather than just hold the line, like they did in the First World War.
NATO interference in Ukraine since the USSR fell. Anti russian brainwashing , puppet gov in 2014, Donbass. NATO trying to watch putin jerk off by getting as close to Russia as they can.
Give me a logical reason why this had to happen, because the only thing to be gained out of this is if Putin seizes the whole of Ukraine & annexes it into Russian territory. Invading Ukraine has effectively ruined the lives & job prospects of everyone living in his nation, this either ends with him carving out a slice of Eastern Europe for Russia or Putin swinging from a noose.
This, did Putin have legitimate points about NATO, sure. But even he must knew a full blown invasion would completely kill Russia's economy. If this Oil ban stands Russia is fucked long term too, oil has been on it's way out slowly but surely and this is only going to push the West to invest even harder in solar, wind, and most importantly nuclear power.
A full blown invasion was needless, I probably would be Pro Russia if he basically made the argument "Ukraine has ignored the Minsk agreements for years so I'm making sure it's enforced and give the DPR and LPR their rightful borders and stop there." but no, he's making a violent power grab to put up a puppet government in Ukraine barely anybody, and most importantly basically no Ukrainians, will recognize as legitimate. Sure he's claiming recognition of those puppet states of his is one of his main goals but let's be real, his main goal is a regime change in K(y)iev.
Russia's economy is fucked because Putin thought his big reserves wouldn't be half frozen and the rest heavily expended into a war he thought would be measured in days instead of weeks, Russia is going to turn into a vessel state of China because they're one of the few countries with any real power that will trade with them, and right now Putin is threatening nuclear war if any other country directly assists Ukraine militarily.
Give me a logical reason why this had to happen, because the only thing to be gained out of this is if Putin seizes the whole of Ukraine & annexes it into Russian territory. Invading Ukraine has effectively ruined the lives & job prospects of everyone living in his nation, this either ends with him carving out a slice of Eastern Europe for Russia or Putin swinging from a noose.
It was from Wikipedia to be honest and the Youtube comments section.
I am also aware overall the Germans were doomed as soon as they decided to go for Russia rather than just hold the line, like they did in the First World War.
Yeah, the problem with trying to decipher the Eastern Front is that everyone lied about it after the war. The Soviets spun their propaganda, and the German generals who were still alive blamed everything that went wrong on Hitler. When you start digging through journals and whatnot, it becomes evident that there was a very severe disconnect between Hitler and Wehrmacht command that continued to get worse over the course of the war, leading to tons of infighting as each side tried to force the other to fight the war "the right way". In the end, the generals survived the war, and Hitler didn't, so they wrote the official history from that bias of IT'S NOT MY FAULT, HITLER FUCKED US OVER!
I'd argue the biggest factor is that it was incredibly unwise to continually expand NATO, a specifically anti-Soviet/anti-Russian military alliance, right up to Russia's border. It was utterly needless, did almost nothing to secure the interests of NATO members and did everything to jeopardize Russia's vital interests.
It's obviously a very regrettable thing and I have sympathy for the people affected, but I'd expect any nation to take action when placed in the same bind.
This, did Putin have legitimate points about NATO, sure. But even he must knew a full blown invasion would completely kill Russia's economy. If this Oil ban stands Russia is fucked long term too, oil has been on it's way out slowly but surely and this is only going to push the West to invest even harder in solar, wind, and most importantly nuclear power.
A full blown invasion was needless, I probably would be Pro Russia if he basically made the argument "Ukraine has ignored the Minsk agreements for years so I'm making sure it's enforced and give the DPR and LPR their rightful borders and stop there." but no, he's making a violent power grab to put up a puppet government in Ukraine barely anybody, and most importantly basically no Ukrainians, will recognize as legitimate. Sure he's claiming recognition of those puppet states of his is one of his main goals but let's be real, his main goal is a regime change in K(y)iev.
Russia's economy is fucked because Putin thought his big reserves wouldn't be half frozen and the rest heavily expended into a war he thought would be measured in days instead of weeks, Russia is going to turn into a vessel state of China because they're one of the few countries with any real power that will trade with them, and right now Putin is threatening nuclear war if any other country directly assists Ukraine militarily.
I'll just be the devil's advocate here and say that the official Russian position on this has been consistent: they're not seeking to "topple" the government in Kiev. Until that changes, there's no "official" proof that they'll oust Zelensky. For now.
I expect that to change, naturally. Little funny man just made him an intractable enemy out of Putin, and no way he's walking away from this unscathed.
This, did Putin have legitimate points about NATO, sure. But even he must knew a full blown invasion would completely kill Russia's economy. If this Oil ban stands Russia is fucked long term too, oil has been on it's way out slowly but surely and this is only going to push the West to invest even harder in solar, wind, and most importantly nuclear power.
Can we please stop with this meme as Iran and Cuba are still alive.
To other cultures, there is more to life than "muh GDP" and "muh cheap gizmos and toys" and all that hedonistic shit that westerners have been bought off by.
The main objective is for the regime to survive and keep the trains running on time at minimum while they fuck over a lot of people.
Buying them off with cheap shit wasn't their play and their culture isn't even like that.
Russian civilization is probably at least a 1000 years old going by their belief that some woman in Kiev started their civilization or whatever, and they have been through worse like the Russian Civil War, which was probably an extension of World War 1 given how it involved a lot of weakened outsider powers unable to defeat the Communists like they were able to do to the Chinese during that massive rebellion.
Point is that, they are full of flaws but thinking about them from a western lens is probably why Afghanistan and Iraq were utter failures and didn't turn into prosperous democracies like Germany and Japan.
Give me a logical reason why this had to happen, because the only thing to be gained out of this is if Putin seizes the whole of Ukraine & annexes it into Russian territory. Invading Ukraine has effectively ruined the lives & job prospects of everyone living in his nation, this either ends with him carving out a slice of Eastern Europe for Russia or Putin swinging from a noose.
Simple: Putin doesn’t like having NATO on his doorstep, and Ukraine has tons of pro Russia regions. Now the question becomes if Ukraine is one step on a bigger path.
Can we please stop with this meme as Iran and Cuba are still alive.
To other cultures, there is more to life than "muh GDP" and "muh cheap gizmos and toys" and all that hedonistic shit that westerners have been bought off by.
The main objective is for the regime to survive and keep the trains running on time at minimum while they fuck over a lot of people.
Buying them off with cheap shit wasn't their play and their culture isn't even like that.
Russian civilization is probably at least a 1000 years old going by their belief that some woman in Kiev started their civilization or whatever, and they have been through worse like the Russian Civil War, which was probably an extension of World War 1 given how it involved a lot of weakened outsider powers unable to defeat the Communists like they were able to do to the Chinese during that massive rebellion.
Point is that, they are full of flaws but thinking about them from a western lens is probably why Afghanistan and Iraq were utter failures and didn't turn into prosperous democracies like Germany and Japan.
Well, there’s a difference: Germany and Japan got their asses kicked and were practically forced to accept new terms. Russia meanwhile is on the way to becoming a /pol/ paradise by not having globalist influences while also basically telling the West to pound sand.
Give me a logical reason why this had to happen, because the only thing to be gained out of this is if Putin seizes the whole of Ukraine & annexes it into Russian territory. Invading Ukraine has effectively ruined the lives & job prospects of everyone living in his nation, this either ends with him carving out a slice of Eastern Europe for Russia or Putin swinging from a noose.
The long term health of a society often requires short term sacrifices. Look at Russia's proposed sacrifices as opposed to 'taking the easy way', then look at the choices the West has.
Russia can either roll over to the unending advance of Western economic, technological, cultural, diplomatic and eventually military incursions into every corner of the globe, or it can take a firm and shocking stance against this encroachment by establishing a blatant sphere of influence beyond their borders that stands in opposition to the West. Taking such a stance, if successful, will grant the Russian a chance to write their nation's own future, in terms of economic development, cultural changes, and demographic trends - the cost is short term economic hardships, the likes of which their people have lived through several iterations of already in the past 30 years.
The alternative is laying down and not fighting back, as year after year the West slowly excludes Russia from everything they are currently excluded from, be it sporting events, access to international credit, or trade free of sanctions. The costs of passivity would eventually rise to its current maximum until Russia folded, which is to say - gives the US lead international community complete control over its foreign and domestic policies. So for Russia, it's bleed its youth and stretch its ruble now or be conquered piece by piece until it becomes just another soulless liberal economic zone where once a nation stood.
On the other hand, America and Europe has the choice: impoverish and confuse its currently relatively wealthy and stable societies in order to bring Russia to heel - all in service to an international power block that wages genocidal policies against their own people and seeks to pervert or destroy their ways of life... or just let the Russians regain their historical status as the Eurasian regional power, let them retain their ways of life, and the West will keep its wealth, youths' blood, and (relatively) stable existence.
One must truly wonder: What sort of Western leader could possibly choose to seek the perversion and destruction of both Russia and their own nation?
