Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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It might just be me, but I wonder how many of the woke individuals will look back on what they're saying now fondly. Some of it is definitely starting to seem less like being opposed to Russia based on their current actions, and more like blatant racism in places.

I can get why payment processors are dropping Russia. I can even get the collateral damage that's going to have (a lot Russians who don't support the invasion are inevitably suffer as they're blacklisted from everything because their government decided to be retarded for a bit). But it seems to me that perhaps it's going a step too far in cases where something right now is getting cancelled if it is or has ever had any connection to any russian person ever.

I think a lot of them have gotten swept up in the wave of current events and pointed their hate not just towards Russia as a government and state, but towards Russians as an ethnicity. We'll see how that ages.
Looking at what they have done, the only way to tell the difference in the future between American and Russian white people will be how fat they are.

Antifa starts firebombing gyms in the future to own the Ruskie Chuds.
 
Another poster in the thread mentioned it, but I'd love to know what the hell caused the immense hatred and enimity the elite of Germany have for Russia still up until the current year. It's so bizarre in light of the "special relationship" they have with Israel and also even more pathetic to me considering Schroeder and Merkel signed away their energy to Russia which is really biting them in the ass.
Because, like all Western countries, Germany is a gerontocracy, so the leadership remembers having to flee from the marauding Russkies as a kid. Plus half of them got stuck in East Germany, so they had to live through first a mass rape of their kinfolk and then a communist dystopia whose occupation government was even more brutal and fanatical than the Soviets themselves, all caused by the Russians.

Also that last part seems to be a recurring pattern, why is it that occupation regimes tend to be even more extreme than the home country. Is it because the occupation regime can be made out of whole cloth after the destruction of the previous state, so they can select a full set of ideologues to do the dirty work, while in the home country they're somewhat moderated by the influence of other groups whose support they used to get in power? Nazi puppet states like the "Independent" State of Croatia are prime examples of this, and Jap collaborators were hardcore too. I wonder if the Afghan puppet government also fit this pattern, did they try to make the Pashtuns eat soy and transition their kids?
 
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Looking at what they have done, the only way to tell the difference in the future between American and Russian white people will be how fat they are.

Antifa starts firebombing gyms in the future to own the Ruskie Chuds.
Russians look like a famine has struck. Americans look like they caused the famine.
 
Bomb Japan (the atomic weapons didn't kill much more or even less than major bombing raids) more or see several hundred thousand Americans killed? The Japs weren't about to surrender before the atom bomb and it was still a close run thing.
Eisenhower himself told high command how the Japs were ready to surrender before dropping the bombs. Mutts just wanted an excuse to use their new shiny toys so they could flex to the Soviets and the rest of the world (which only lasted until 1949 when the Soviets got their own bomb, whoops lol).
But it seems that the American mentality of "War crimes are OK as long we're the ones doing them!" helped them sleep at night.
 
There's no way some random doctor in that hospital is going to refuse treatment to a bleeding person who happens to have Russian citizenship, it's insane and has to be against the hippocratic oath.
it's not a public hospital, but a private clinic. i'm not sure they even have an emergency room.
judging from this info page their biggest departments are orthopedic surgery, gynaecology and plastic surgery
 
The parts of it that appear true are the discussions of their intentions and the thought processes behind what they are doing. The parts of it that are questionable are questionable because they are overly optimistic and don't really talk about any failures, setbacks or situations where the plan did not meet its objectives. The admission that they did not receive as positive a welcome in the eastern Urkaine as they expected is interesting.

The APU, as a single, manageable and effective structure, has ceased to exist. Today, there are dozens of groups of different numbers isolated from each other, hiding in cities and towns. No centralized supply, no air support, no approach of reinforcements. They are not able to act within the framework of any plans of the Ukrainian General Staff. Just crowds of armed men with orders to stand to the death.

I would somewhat agree with this take. Especially in the eastern parts of Ukraine. There isn't the appearance of a coordinated fight or the Ukrainian Army reacting much to the moves of the Russians. It all has the appearance, based on what I can see, of stand-and-fight tactics. The Russians break through in a given area and the reaction is......nothing. They don't reallocate forces or move anything. The fighting just moves down the road.

In a week or two, 80% of the AFU will turn into detachments completely devoid of ammunition, fuel, medicines, and food. Mentally and physically exhausted, without a unified command, goals and objectives.

This is perhaps true in the east of Ukraine and in terms of the surrounded forces in the Eastern Ukraine. But its rather optimistic looking at Ukraine as a whole. And I would very much dispute the 80% figure.

He is also right about the difficulties of useful supplies getting to the people who need them in the conflict. The roads are clogged with refugee traffic in the western ukraine. The Russians do control the skies over the country. And the truck convoys trying to move anything up to the front in Eastern Ukraine are going to get shot to pieces. But he is underestimating the problems they will face as they move west through Ukraine. The situations that favor them in Eastern Ukraine will not favor them in Western Ukraine. Supply lines will be extremely long for them. The population will be far more hostile to them than what they have encoutered so far. And the Ukrainian side will be very close to large stocks of NATO supplies.
 
Lol wine moms finally sperged out enough to get the tweet about the crisis actor from the Russian embassy taken down.
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It's hilarious to me because you know it's almost certainly true given Ukraine's use of models throughout this whole thing, and even if it wasn't, most of the shit coming out of Ukraine gets proven to be a lie the next day and twatter doesn't take that shit down.
 
the American mentality of "War crimes are OK as long we're the ones doing them!"
not an american specific mentality, it's universal to all countries. they'll either argue that it's not a war crime because reasons, or that it was justified and necessary due to the circumstances of the situation at the time. only exception to this are the buck broken vassal states that are current year germany and japan.
 
I'm not really sure. They seem pretty dedicated to being woke, but at the same time, this is a lot of money. I think there were like 9 Coke bottling facilities in Russia, and I'd assume those supplied basically all of their eastern markets.
They have 11 bottling plants in Russia (and 2 in Ukraine that are shut).

It's cocacola-HBC, this is a map of their markets
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They also own the cocacola export corporation which is headquartered in Moscow
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and has 16 plants in Russia.
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The cocacola company is only a minor stakeholder (23.2%)
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They are respecting the shut down order though
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They employ approximately 36,000 people
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Of which nearly 10,000 are in Russia
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So they have a significant amount of their operations in Russia.

They are listed on the London stock exchange, could be a good punt for when everyone gets bored of Ukraine and they all quietly restart their operations.
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Sorry if this has been posted already.

Remember the story about the Era cryptophone system operating over 3G (aka UMTS) supposedly involved in General Valery Gerasimov's death? Emphasis mine:



On another site we've tried (a Russian and me, barely reading Cyrillic) to find information about the ЭПА or ЕПА system. There's not a word on it anywhere. Not on Google, Yandex or VKontakte (in the latter case, there are Western media reposts by Ukrainians). So our retarded Western media doesn't bother to verify basic facts when it's convenient for them.

Obviously if you can refute my above statement, I'm all ears.
That's because Era refers to the Era Military Innovation Technopolis, which is an R&D center in Russia, not the name of a secure communication system.

Everything below is from the original Twitter thread and translated with Google Translate.

Original conversation:
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English translation:
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Notice that it says “Erovskaya”, not “Era”.

First article:
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English translation:
NEWS Daily Digital Digest

The project, according to TASS, is being implemented on the basis of the "Era" technopolis. Deputy Head of the Department of Information Systems of the military department, Major General Alexander Osadchuk, said that we are talking about creating a secure smartphone that can work in various modes, including providing secure communications.

The Era technopolis is testing the Quartz project to create a digital ecosystem for the daily activities of the military. In addition, the "Passport" system is being developed, designed to provide military personnel with access to the data they need in everyday life.
Notice that Era is referred to as a "technopolis", and the projects are called "Quartz" and "Passport". Neither of them sound like a cell phone based secure communication system.

Second Article:
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Note that it is referring to the "Aurora" mobile platform, and that Era is again referred to as a "military technopolis". This article is clearly talking about backdoors in foreign made phones and referring to a law passed that bans foreign devices from secure areas. Aurora sounds like a Russian made Android distro.

No idea what the Russians are talking about, or even if that is a real conversation at all, but one thing for sure is that the journo's interpretation is completely wrong.

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Journo claims this YouTube video is the full conversation:
YouTube's auto-translated subtitles produced this:
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ну короче там
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повторение первое хозяйства 1 1
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хозяйства разъема на х минус
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200 герасимов
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мы и есть 300
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объем 300
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трофимов 300 баксов 100
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помятая понял
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так ладно окончил
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оба
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и
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и
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мало дима поэта для можем цель
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нет у нас [ __ ] на связи [ __ ] питается
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ничего , да не работает и хуя связь не
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на корову вообще выйти не можем
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реально перевес на
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она часто ли ну а вы где находитесь
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инсталлирует скажу будет пробовать тогда
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согласно
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да [ __ ]
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церкви
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понятно вы выпали из
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мира сказал да да
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вот ампутируют
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да он там еще
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до
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туго это не то слово
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сейчас я толику скажу чтобы он пытался
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на вас туже выйти давай дальше
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well in short there
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repeat first au pair 1 1
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housekeeping connector at x minus
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200 gerasims
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we are 300
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volume 300
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Trophies 300 bucks 100
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rumpled understood
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so ok finished
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both
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And
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And
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Little Dima Poet To May Aim
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we are not [ __ ] in touch [ __ ] eating
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nothing, but it doesn't work and the fucking connection doesn't
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we can’t go out on a cow at all
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really overweight
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Is she often Well, where are you?
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installs I will say will try then
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according to
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Yes [ __ ]
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churches
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it's clear you fell out
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the world said yes yes
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amputated
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yes he is still there
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before
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tight is not the right word
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now I'll say a bit so that he tries
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get on you tighter come on
Journo provided this translation:
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Could any Russian-speakers here confirm what is said? One thing I find suspicious is that the excerpt does not match the full version, and something like that video can be faked by anyone who speaks Russian.
 
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The parts of it that appear true are the discussions of their intentions and the thought processes behind what they are doing. The parts of it that are questionable are questionable because they are overly optimistic and don't really talk about any failures, setbacks or situations where the plan did not meet its objectives. The admission that they did not receive as positive a welcome in the eastern Urkaine as they expected is interesting.

The APU, as a single, manageable and effective structure, has ceased to exist. Today, there are dozens of groups of different numbers isolated from each other, hiding in cities and towns. No centralized supply, no air support, no approach of reinforcements. They are not able to act within the framework of any plans of the Ukrainian General Staff. Just crowds of armed men with orders to stand to the death.

I would somewhat agree with this take. Especially in the eastern parts of Ukraine. There isn't the appearance of a coordinated fight or the Ukrainian Army reacting much to the moves of the Russians. It all has the appearance, based on what I can see, of stand-and-fight tactics. The Russians break through in a given area and the reaction is......nothing. They don't reallocate forces or move anything. The fighting just moves down the road.

In a week or two, 80% of the AFU will turn into detachments completely devoid of ammunition, fuel, medicines, and food. Mentally and physically exhausted, without a unified command, goals and objectives.

This is perhaps true in the east of Ukraine and in terms of the surrounded forces in the Eastern Ukraine. But its rather optimistic looking at Ukraine as a whole. And I would very much dispute the 80% figure.

He is also right about the difficulties of useful supplies getting to the people who need them in the conflict. The roads are clogged with refugee traffic in the western ukraine. The Russians do control the skies over the country. And the truck convoys trying to move anything up to the front in Eastern Ukraine are going to get shot to pieces. But he is underestimating the problems they will face as they move west through Ukraine. The situations that favor them in Eastern Ukraine will not favor them in Western Ukraine. Supply lines will be extremely long for them. The population will be far more hostile to them than what they have encoutered so far. And the Ukrainian side will be very close to large stocks of NATO supplies.
Considering that Russias target is Eastern Ukraine due to the Donbaus regions + that's where the majority of the Ukrainian Army was(hmmm I wonder why the Ukrainians had most of their army amassing on the borders of the Donbaus') Russia really only has to worry about the East. Every map I've seen shows Russia leaving Western Ukraine alone. They haven't attitude to move farther West than Kiev to surround it.
 
Well, if it is propaganda it is a lot more believable and well reasoned than what the West and Ukraine is putting out.
Listening to them, the Ukrainian army is winning and causing the Russians bigger casualties than what the allies had in the landing in Normandy.

Just looking at how their militaries compare in numbers, tech and equipment, Ukraine has no chance in hell.
And even if they were comparable on land, Russia having air superiority alone would win them the war.

I would be more open to Ukrainian sources and western assessments if they weren't so completely absurd.
For those wondering if Zelensky is winning lol.

They should be asked, when Zelensky was trying to arm up civilians in Ukraine as a call to arms.

Why wasn't he teaching them how to make IEDs lol.

IEDs are the proven effective weapon of choice for insurgents in the modern era, that can definitely delay those Russian convoys and slow them down. And would definitely turn this war into their Vietnam 2.0 and they already had about 40 years ago and forgotten how hell it was by now.
 
(hmmm I wonder why the Ukrainians had most of their army amassing on the borders of the Donbaus')
The official statement of Russian Ministry of Defense is that they captured plans for Ukrainean assault on Donbass that was supposed to take place on March 8, together with that NATO laptop and other shit. It is up to you whether to believe them or not.
 
And now, to the best part. Let's assume the Organization(s) are formed organically. What makes you think they'll be aligned with the West? Last time when Russian Revolution was left to it's own devices, fucking Bolsheviks have won. During late 90s, Western countries were helping Russia precisely to prevent communist or "red fascist" takeover. Same goes for coup' d'etat by Russian elites. Yes, there's a chance that oligarchs would succeed, but what if the power falls into hands of military, secret police or regional elites?
Most people today believe the Communists were successful in Russia because they were able to rally behind them the sympathy and frustration of the Russian people who were sick of the tyranny of the Czars. This is to ignore the history of what actually happened. While almost everybody is reminded that the Bolshevik Revolution took place in November of 1917, few know that the Czar had abdicated seven months earlier in March. When Czar Nicholas II abdicated, a provisional government was established by Prince Lvov who wanted to pattern the new Russian government after our own. But, unfortunately, the Lvov government gave way to the Kerensky regime. Kerensky, a so-called democratic socialist, may have been running a caretaker government for the Communists. He kept the war going against Germany and the other Central Powers, but he issued a general amnesty for Communists and other revolutionaries, many of whom had been exiled after the abortive Red Revolution of 1905. Back to mother Russia came 250,000 dedicated revolutionaries, and Kerensky's own government's doom was sealed.

Lenin was sent across Europe-at-war on the famous "sealed train." With him Lenin took some $5 to $6 million in gold. The whole thing was arranged by the German high command and Max Warburg, through another very wealthy and life-long socialist by the name of Alexander Helphand alias "Parvus." When Trotsky left New York aboard the S. S. Christiania, on March 27, 1917, with his entourage of 275 revolutionaries, the first port of call was Halifax, Nova Scotia. There the Canadians grabbed Trotsky and his money and impounded them both. This was a very logical thing for the Canadian government to do for Trotsky had said many times that if he were successful in coming to power in Russia he would immediately stop what he called the "imperialist war" and sue for a separate peace with Germany. This would free millions of German troops for transfer from the Eastern front to the Western front where they could kill Canadians. So Trotsky cooled his heels in a Canadian prison-for five days. Then all of a sudden the British (through future Kuhn, Loeb partner Sir William Wiseman) and the United States pressured the Canadian government. And, despite the fact we were now in the war, said, in so many words, "Let Trotsky go." Thus, with an American passport, Trotsky went back to meet Lenin. They joined up, and, by November, through bribery, cunning, brutality and deception, they were able (not to bring the masses rallying to their cause, but) to hire enough thugs and make enough deals to impose out of the gun barrel what Lenin called "all power to the Soviets." The Communists came to power by seizing a mere handful of key cities. In fact, practically the whole Bolshevik Revolution took place in one city-Petrograd. It was as if the whole United States became Communist because a Communist-led mob seized Washington, D. C. It was years before the Soviets solidified power throughout Russia.

The Germans, on the face of it, had a plausible excuse for financing Lenin and Trotsky. The two Germans most responsible for the financing of Lenin were Max Warburg and a displaced Russian named Alexander Helphand. They could claim that they were serving their country's cause by helping and financing Lenin. However, these two German "patriots" neglected to mention to the Kaiser their plan to foment a Communist revolution in Russia. The picture takes on another dimension when you consider that the brother of Max Warburg was Paul Warburg, prime mover in establishing the Federal Reserve System and who from his position on the Federal Reserve Board of Directors, played a key role in financing the American war effort. (When news leaked out in American papers about brother Max running the German finances, Paul resigned from his Federal Reserve post without a whimper.) From here on the plot sickens. For the father-in-law of Max Warburg's brother, Felix, was Jacob Schiff, senior partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Co. (Paul and Felix Warburg, you will recall, were also partners in Kuhn, Loeb & Co. while Max ran the Rothschild-allied family bank of Frankfurt.) Jacob Schiff also helped finance Leon Trotsky. According to the New York Journal-American of February 3, 1949: "Today it is estimated by Jacob's grandson, John Schiff, that the old man sank about 20,000,000 dollars for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia."

-None Dare Call It Conspiracy

While we're talking about Kerensky, from wikipedia: "Kerensky was an active member of the irregular Freemasonic lodge, the Grand Orient of Russia's Peoples, which derived from the Grand Orient of France." Of course, Louis Philippe d'Orléans, the cousin of Louis 16th was the grandmaster of the Grand Orient of France and used freemasonry to overthrow his cousin.

Of course, both the Rothchilds and Continental Freemasonry have Sabbatean connections and the French revolution itself was thoroughly Sabbatean in character and attracted them from all over, i.e. Moses Dobruska.
 
Alright, schizo/tinfoil hat theory coming right up, so hang in there for a second.

I've been reading this thread and came to a stupid conclusion/theory: What if Putin's main goal for the war wasn't Ukraine but instead making all these companies leave Russia, claim their factories and then create their own national brands? All while Vlad tells the Russians how "the evil western companies abandoned Russia to side with the Ukes, so we now need to buy our own products to support the Motherland".

Sure, the products quality might be as shit as China's but at least they won't have to rely on foreign companies that much.

/schizo theory
 
The official statement of Russian Ministry of Defense is that they captured plans for Ukrainean assault on Donbass that was supposed to take place on March 8, together with that NATO laptop and other shit. It is up to you whether to believe them or not.
I mean it was a defacto proxy war in the region so it wouldn't suprise me if one side was planning a push at one point or another. If it was actually being planned is quite another question.

NATO involvement is a bit too far out there to be believable though, support maybe, glowies most definately but direct action nah.
 
The official statement of Russian Ministry of Defense is that they captured plans for Ukrainean assault on Donbass that was supposed to take place on March 8, together with that NATO laptop and other shit. It is up to you whether to believe them or not.
I do, I don't see why Ukraines military would be amassing there otherwise. No idea if Nato was involved but Ukraine, based on troop movements, definitely was planning something.

It doesn't look like it was a defensive troop movement seeing as they have been/are close to being encircled. The world knew Russia was amassing troops on their border, 3/4 of their attacking forces ended up behind most of the Ukrainian Army.

I'm open to hearing another reason besides an attack on the Donbaus as to why the Ukrainian Army was positioned where it was.
 
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