Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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I would bet that every Russian tsar, dictator and imperialist has dreamt to have these borders.

No NATO nation near Moscow, the black sea being a Russian lake, the much sought after access to the mediterranean and the full control of the Turkish straits.

I would also add a warm water port in east Asia as an icing on the cake.

Honestly, would that be worth it?

I mean, their navy would still be easily lockable at the Danish and Gibraltar choke points.

Now if they added Benelux and Germany they would get True and Honest atlantic access though.
 
It is, as long as we have a Second Amendment. Those people can go bite my ass. Fuck them, fully.
Speaking of 2nd Amendment, while Biden and the Democrats are funding Ukrainians with all kinds of arms, something from the homefront in regards to it.


This is domestic news but relevant that the progressives and neoliberals who support boots on the ground in Ukraine and promoting them holhols posing with ARs and AKs to own Ivan.

They going still for the full opposite here, these folks have no moral compass anymore as they pushed Ukraine into getting raped by Russia to begin with.
 
Honestly, would that be worth it?

I mean, their navy would still be easily lockable at the Danish and Gibraltar choke points.

Now if they added Benelux and Germany they would get True and Honest atlantic access though.

Maybe a second Kaliningrad, just fill it with Russians and you have your atlantic enclave.
 
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Neocons worship Wilson for creating the American empire and his apologists defend him by mentioning the conquest of Cuba or the Philipines and citing the interventions in central America and manifest destiny.
One of Wilson's most crazy dreams was for an American colonial possession in Armenia. The British and French had convinced him how great an idea it was. The insanity was that the "mandate" would have trapped the US between the forces of the Russian Revolution and the Turkish nationalists. If the US had actually tried to take up that "mandate", it would have probably ended up at war with both. The real winners being the British and French whose new colonial posessions in what is now Turkey would have been safe behind an American shield. The insanity of this whole idea was one of the many reasons the senate rejected Wilson's treaty.

The other thing that is incredible to look at is just how many military actions were initiated beyond just world war I during his time in office. He literally launched interventions in every direction. He even had US troops fighting in Mexico.
 
It wasn't the highest priority, but bigger places could have at least expected to get hit with something, Brazil, India, allied nations, anyone with a modernish economy and industry. Everyone got to have a hard reset to 18th Century tech. The US and Russia had a lot of nukes. Hell, Russia even had plans for biological follow ups to further fuck with survivors. I think the "realistic" estimates for an actual nuclear exchange was about a quarter of the planet's population in the initial exchange and then roughly another quarter in the following collapse of infrastructure, industry, disease, and famine. It wasn't going to be Fallout, but it was going to be bad.

That said, the non-primary targets were expect to recover faster, just because they'd have gotten hit less.
Got more to read on that? afaik there werent enough ICBMs to just target everywhere, just a fraction of warheads are ready to be launched

Still I dont discount that government factions that survive in bunkers wouldnt extort the unhit countries with threats of them too going up in smoke, would be a great way to get supplies from them when your entire production base its ashes
Fallout doomerism completely ignores how well the ocean would actually tank it. Even meltdowns like fukushima get absorbed and it was on the coast. Ecology in general would get fucked for a long time, mostly land based, but fallout, deadly fallout, would at most last a few decades in the worst hit regions.
Like I said the problem with fallout is not radioactivity which with hydrogen bombs airbursts its actually low, but the actual particles going up into the atmosphere and staying them for a long time blocking the sun

Its not gonna be like in the matrix but shit its gonna be really bad for crop yields
 
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One of Wilson's most crazy dreams was for an American colonial possession in Armenia. The British and French had convinced him how great an idea it was. The insanity was that the "mandate" would have trapped the US between the forces of the Russian Revolution and the Turkish nationalists. If the US had actually tried to take up that "mandate", it would have probably ended up at war with both. The real winners being the British and French whose new colonial posessions in what is now Turkey would have been safe behind an American shield. The insanity of this whole idea was one of the many reasons the senate rejected Wilson's treaty.

The other thing that is incredible to look at is just how many military actions were initiated beyond just world war I during his time in office. He literally launched interventions in every direction. He even had US troops fighting in Mexico.
You got a link to that, it sounds interesting
 
One of Wilson's most crazy dreams was for an American colonial possession in Armenia. The British and French had convinced him how great an idea it was. The insanity was that the "mandate" would have trapped the US between the forces of the Russian Revolution and the Turkish nationalists. If the US had actually tried to take up that "mandate", it would have probably ended up at war with both. The real winners being the British and French whose new colonial posessions in what is now Turkey would have been safe behind an American shield. The insanity of this whole idea was one of the many reasons the senate rejected Wilson's treaty.

The other thing that is incredible to look at is just how many military actions were initiated beyond just world war I during his time in office. He literally launched interventions in every direction. He even had US troops fighting in Mexico.

I didn't knew about the proposal of an "American colony in Armenia" and that would have been the most insane idea I ever heard if I didn't read about a Russian warlord in the Russian civil war proclaiming himself as the Khan of Mongolia (he actually ruled Mongolia) and claiming that he was a descendant of Ghengis Khan.

One crazy timeline is what would have happened if Turkey was partitioned successfully and that would have been a clusterfuck in of itself.

Wilson is actually liked a lot in Bulgaria because he was the main objector in partitioning Bulgaria between the other balkan nations, weird, I know.
 
Svetlodarsk - Donetsk-Mariupol gas pipeline is on fire as a result of Russian attack.


Nadiya - Destroyed and abandoned Russian combat vehicles.



Velyka Dymerka - Coca-Cola plant after Russian attack.
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Russian Roskomnadzor (The same government organization that blocked kiwifarms over the Ho-ho-holocaust image) hacked, 820GB database leaked online


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Users are advised to be extra careful as some directories, like ПОЧТА Приемная, appear to contain large numbers of email attachments. Email attachments are often a vector of malware and phishing attempts, so use caution and tools like Dangerzone and others.

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There are two directories that we identified as containing the raw data files in proprietary formats for a pair of databases. Together, they total 290.6 GB. We will soon be releasing the raw data while we look for solutions to extracting the data. One appears to be a legal research database that, according to the file timestamp, was last modified in 2020. The other appears to be a database for HR procedures.

The data can be downloaded in full from our site, split into two torrents for easier handling.
 
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Lol, you’d see a buildup of Chinese air power and infantry a month away. The amphibious invasion of Taiwan will be the largest amphibious assault since the Normandy landings - and very well could wind up being a larger operation.

I desperately hope the Chinese would be as retarded as to try and cross the treacherous strait in commercial craft to make landings, because that would be even more hilarious a military operation than what they’re likely going to do: trying to inundate Taiwanese air defenses with stand off weapons and then send in their amphibious assault ships and cross their fingers they can hold a beachhead.
Remember Dieppe. The Chinese have ZERO combined-arms operational experience more recent than 1979. This is something that takes a great deal of practice. China doesn't do it. They're still trying to figure out how to effectively use their carrier. Would expect Taiwanese/US submarines to feast on Chinese ships.
 
In the case of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, you could look at the US island-hopping expeditions in World War 2. Even after days of sustained bombardment, the US lost thousands of men during amphibious landings against a foe they outnumbered and outsupplied handily when they tried to land.

Never underestimate the danger of a dug-in opponent when doing an island landing.
the japanese were infamous for their fighting spirit, their fierce resistance, and their willingness to fight to the death no matter the odds.
i don't think the chinese in taiwan share that resolve. people meme about ukrainians and russians being the same because all slavs look alike to americans, but in the case of taiwan and mainland china it's actually true, like 90%+ of the taiwanese population is han chinese, the rest are random foreigners and a small remnant of indiginous taiwanese who are thoroughly marginalized and irrelevant.

tl;dr i would not confidently expect the taiwanese to put up a super hard fight against a potential PRC invasion.
 
Remember Dieppe. The Chinese have ZERO combined-arms operational experience more recent than 1979. This is something that takes a great deal of practice. China doesn't do it. They're still trying to figure out how to effectively use their carrier. Would expect Taiwanese/US submarines to feast on Chinese ships.
Not even mentioning the IFF nightmare it would be to coordinate civvie ships, on top of dealing with your own regular forces trying to not shoot down your soldiers on the civvie ships bumbling around.
The clusterfuck of such an operation is vastly understated.
 
or Putin swinging from a noose.
Maybe it'd be true for other reasons, but I don't think anyone's going to overthrow their leader because other countries won't sell them their crap. Honestly I think it'd make him more popular. "The world despises you" would be a reason to become more nationalist than anything, or at least the weakest of many reasons to do a coup.

And considering the west's treatment of Russian expats in the wake of this, would you really want to take your chances with them?
 
So, first-hand account with results of western propaganda. Youtube historian Lindybeige released interview with his friend who decided to kill those bloody russians
It's funny to get into head of a retard who wants to die for not even his country.
"I'm 38 have no wife and kids and I think the war should be fought by the middle aged"
"Not currently got much work on ... private landlord chucked me out"
Hope he has fun on his suicide mission.
 
the japanese were infamous for their fighting spirit, their fierce resistance, and their willingness to fight to the death no matter the odds.
i don't think the chinese in taiwan share that resolve. people meme about ukrainians and russians being the same because all slavs look alike to americans, but in the case of taiwan and mainland china it's actually true, like 90%+ of the taiwanese population is han chinese, the rest are random foreigners and a small remnant of indiginous taiwanese who are thoroughly marginalized and irrelevant.

tl;dr i would not confidently expect the taiwanese to put up a super hard fight against a potential PRC invasion.
This would have been true 20 years ago, but Taiwan has rapidly become a westernized country with a population that doesn’t view itself as Chinese anymore.

The military is full of Chinese nationalist KMT guys, but the general population and civilian government are extremely anti China and anti unification.

Taiwan is in an incredibly strong strategic position, China would lose hundreds of ships and tens of thousands of troops before even landing, its air force would be shot to pieces, and even after they’d landed they’d have to fight an uphill battle against well fortified positions. Taiwan has billions of dollars of US weaponry, and a ton of state of the art anti air missiles.

Invading Taiwan would be a nightmare. I genuinely doubt that China could succeed.
 
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