Pandemic Fear & Delusion Support - Have you lost someone to the pandemic cult?

[Osmosis Jones]

I would like to keep this thread as a place of support and discussion of the mandates and policies and how they affect our lives and relationships. Obviously I have no control over this, but it would suck to see this devolve into slapfighting about the mandates and policies themselves. I made this thread because I've been involved in off-topic discussions elsewhere about this topic.

So:

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As the pandemic moves into an endemic phase in all parts of the world that function in reality, many places have chosen an angle that reflects an entirely made-up and intentionally divisive rhetoric. Through virtue of the World Wide Web, these opinions and views being disseminated from political powers around the world are seeping into every corner of the earth. Regardless of the measures being used in the countries we all reside in, we find ourselves in a society harshly divided along a very clear line: a line that harkens to all of our most personal convictions about morality and right and wrong.

This thread is made from the standpoint of those who stand for personal freedom and bodily autonomy, those who oppose heavy-handed government rule, and by and large, those who oppose virtue signalling and Leftism.

Edit: video taken down. I had the archived file but I can't find it. Can anyone help? The video is It's Been 2 Years by Chris McKee I believe.

Many of us have seen our friends and family harshly reject us for our hardline opinion that personal freedom stands before anything else. The most common line in the sand is that the government authority stops when the policies affecting bodily autonomy come out. There have been many people who have accepted masking, social distancing, and even lockdowns but will not accept the mandatory vaccination. There are also many who have gotten the vaccine and are now tired of waiting for their respective government to move forward. Therefore, another very common line in the sand is that measures are no longer effective or necessary and should be removed, and that continuation or intensification of measures is tyranny.

I posit that anyone who supports any government or authority not actively moving into an endemic phase and actively removing COVID-19 policies has drunk the kool-aid and are probably beyond saving. It has gone beyond reality for a great many individuals and has become irrational fear or an unwavering belief that the measures are actively protecting people, and that the protection outweighs the evident harm.

When I'm referring to cult attitudes, I specifically mean the cult-like adaptation of the narratives, policies, rules, and mandates surrounding the pandemic. I'm referring to those who wear masks in open air sunlit spaces, who will very carefully maintain their distance, and who will reject your presence and/or humanity if they find out you didn't get jabbed. I am also lumping in anyone who has fully bought into media-propagated fear campaigns and therefore has become a drone to whatever the government asks them to do or tells them is true.

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I've lost a couple of people to the fear of COVID. Through media and skewed statistics, they really are under the impression that the virus has a significant chance of killing them. One of them has barely left the house in 2 years and rants to me about people not using masks properly. He is dismissive of the facts around vaccination rates as well as the efficacy of the vaccination being so poor, the transmissibility being unchanged, etc. In my opinion, he's one of many people that no longer have the mental capacity or endurance to untangle the web of lies the government and authorities have woven. It's easier to believe the rhetoric and hide than it is to feel the pain of knowing he has been horribly betrayed by a government reaching too far. The fatigue caused to many people by the complete inundation of fear has left them without willpower. Many good people have been sucked into the narrative and won't listen to anything else anymore.

Posted from my fucking phone

 

[gang weeder]

I had to restructure my social life, both online and in person, over this gay shit. Online people were sperging too much about politics and I had to do some moving around to avoid leftist spaces. And IRL, since I lived in a libshit city at the time, everyone I knew took the "pandemic" super duper seriously and all refused to leave their houses for any reason. After the first 8 months or so I felt like I was starting to go crazy so I kind of just gave up on them and made some new non-covidian friends. When my old friends finally were willing to start doing game nights again, they required the jab to attend, which of course I didn't get, so that was the nail in the coffin for that.

 

[Kiwisee]

Initially, it was me getting cut off by high school friends when I told them to stop being histrionic over this; it’s no worse than Swine Flu or any of the other viruses we’ve seen over the years.

I brought up concerns about how this is only excluding the immunocompromised from society since they can’t get the vaccine by default. Somehow me saying that means I want to kill grandma (even though they were excited over day of the pillow not too long ago).

Then they blocked me after I told them that they should just go isolate themselves if they think the virus is so scary, and called them selfish for wanting to use state power to reinforce their own fear of death.

Recently they’ve tried crawling back to me, and tried apologizing. I haven’t responded to any of their messages because, quite frankly, I’ve seen their true colours and want nothing to do with them.

Mind you, I’ve recently also cut off a lot of COVIDian Bootlickers as of late because fuck them at this point.

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

Lost? No. Wish I had lost? Almost.

My two best friends are both sane so I've been OK on the social side. Family? My father is a total NPC. (Case in point, he no longer cares about masking up, he's just ranting about Putin murdering Ukrainian babies.)

I wasn't even anti-vaccine, I had just had Covid and didn't want to get the shot right away after being sick. Me not being at the front of the line started daily arguments over the vaccine and they just kept escalating until he held himself hostage if I didn't get the shot. It broke our relationship so bad that he's less a father now and more an old guy I've been made responsible for for no reason. I never thought I'd say this but a part of me is just waiting for him to die.

 

[ZazietheBeast]

Family is more or less lost. They completely eat up the narrative and follow everything. Especially the vaxx lies. My brother especially. The irony is that he claims to "look at all sources."

All sources are results from google and reddit. 2 tendrils of globohomo.

He believes in reason but is quite unreasonable when it comes to validity of vaxx.

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

Entire family: Don't care. If you want to be vaccinated it's up to you.
Job and friends have been ok. Mostly talked to people over the phone though so that's sucked.

I might have been bothered more by this entire thing if I still had facebook.

I'm sure next pandemic we'll have mandates and everything so that'll suck.

Oh and the west have turned massively towards becoming like Russia and China so I'm still in doomer mode.

Initially, it was me getting cut off by high school friends when I told them to stop being histrionic over this; it’s no worse than Swine Flu or any of the other viruses we’ve seen over the years.

I brought up concerns about how this is only excluding the immunocompromised from society since they can’t get the vaccine by default. Somehow me saying that means I want to kill grandma (even though they were excited over day of the pillow not too long ago).

Then they blocked me after I told them that they should just go isolate themselves if they think the virus is so scary, and called them selfish for wanting to use state power to reinforce their own fear of death.

Recently they’ve tried crawling back to me, and tried apologizing. I haven’t responded to any of their messages because, quite frankly, I’ve seen their true colours and want nothing to do with them.

Mind you, I’ve recently also cut off a lot of COVIDian Bootlickers as of late because fuck them at this point.

This is the time to keep up with friends. Make connections don't destroy them. You are probably going to need to rely more and more on people around you in the coming years.

That said I probably wouldn't want to reconnect with people that cut me off either... so I guess do what you want.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Most of the people I grew up with seem to caught up in this misinformation by mass media and I myself was fooled at one point too. Some of them cannot stand COVID restrictions but more of them don't know how to get them to go away. There are some family members I have that embrace the COVID restrictions, Defended Vaccine Passports and Lockdowns and even told me to wear a mask. I cannot stand these kinds of people and it sucks that some of my family members are like that. I rarely talk to them because I fear I would release their inner demons. I'm happy I made friends with many Christians in real life to make me feel less alone.

 

[Muh Pez Dispenser]

I hope that this thread takes off, as I don't think there's a person out there who hasn't been affected in some way by the cult and it's loyal members. I've been a tinfoil hat for the past 20 years, and smelled BS after the first week of lockdown in March 2020. I started listening to Dr. Kaufman and realized this was gonna be a shit show.

I have some family members (liberal, of course) who are cognitively gone and totally unreachable, at this point. Thankfully, no one has tried to force or coerce me into getting the jab (besides my govt); that being said, it has been painful to watch these people literally mentally decay in front of the tv. All of the media they consume is corporatist-legacy and/or state-sponsored media. None of their thoughts are actually their own. They are told what to think, feel, and believe about the coof and now MuH UkRaiNe.

They are victims of mass formation psychosis and barring some "awakening" (on their part), I have completely given up on them. We only talk about food these days. No talk about politics, jabs, or anything remotely controversial.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

"Oh hey, *insert band I like here* is playing in concert near me! Don't mind if I buy a ticket -"

"JAB OR GTFO, PLEB"

 

[Ser Prize]

I lost my sister, but she was always super libshit so it wasn't surprising. My mom was vaxhappy at first but has grown skeptical over time. The entire paternal side of my family is based about this(and most other things) and we actually protesting locally, none of them can stand the vax. But that doesn't surprise me. What surprises me is a friend I lost: John.

Now I met John during a work search program. John is severely autistic but a nice guy. We talked girls, politics and all that and it was cool. Other day he messaged me on facebook and dude has gone full fucking AIDS about this. About the "anti maskers and anti vaxxers", about the freedom convoy, etc. It really hurt to see.

 

[AMHOLIO]

No, but this is a good thread and I'm glad you fags can talk in peace.

I got the covid shot but I'm waiting before I get another booster or anything, and I don't mind if other people haven't. I don't have a disorder that requires more care or a fragile body. I have more sympathy for those types than healthy young people in their 20s and 30s screaming about it, that's when it's nuts.

The most I have are people in the healthcare field who are very overworked and stressed, taking it out on other things and ranting about people not getting vaxed because they have to deal with the fallout (add in shitty hospital practices laying off people and overworking and I see how they are). I let them vent but don't worry too much.

 

[Ser Prize]

No, but this is a good thread and I'm glad you fags can talk in peace.

I got the covid shot but I'm waiting before I get another booster or anything, and I don't mind if other people haven't. I don't have a disorder that requires more care or a fragile body. I have more sympathy for those types than healthy young people in their 20s and 30s screaming about it, that's when it's nuts.

The most I have are people in the healthcare field who are very overworked and stressed, taking it out on other things and ranting about people not getting vaxed because they have to deal with the fallout (add in shitty hospital practices laying off people and overworking and I see how they are). I let them vent but don't worry too much.

That's why I gave my mom leeway on her vaxhappiness. She's got a fucked immune system and something like a bad cold could kill her. It's why I supported the lockdown stuff at first when I thought it was real.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Hey little kid. You want to throw a molotov and elect Trump just to fuck with us? We'll make you lose your loved ones. Kill them? No, I don't need to kill them. I'll make them think you'll kill them if you go near them.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

It's why I supported the lockdown stuff at first when I thought it was real.

I think a lot of people thought like that, with the best of intentions. But the reality is that it was the immunocompromised who should have isolated themselves, so society could continue to function.

 

[Tsukasa Kadoya]

My co-worker is a militant Branch Covidian and had her daughter vaxxed against her will. Now the poor kid (who is a teenager and isn't a fattie) is having lots of "unknown heart related issues" and is constantly showing blatant symptoms of Myocarditis, if not outright early heart failure. The only other non-vaxxed coworker gently suggested it could have been caused by the shot, and my co-worker immediately reported her to HR.
Its a shame because the poor kid doesn't deserve to end up having this put upon her, but her paranoid mom forced her to end up like this.

 

[Lemmingwise]

My co-worker is a militant Branch Covidian and had her daughter vaxxed against her will. Now the poor kid (who is a teenager and isn't a fattie) is having lots of "unknown heart related issues" and is constantly showing blatant symptoms of Myocarditis, if not outright early heart failure. The only other non-vaxxed coworker gently suggested it could have been caused by the shot, and my co-worker immediately reported her to HR.
Its a shame because the poor kid doesn't deserve to end up having this put upon her, but her paranoid mom forced her to end up like this.

Hearing women deal with strange bleeding for a month and my friend's husband end up in the hospital with pain in the balls.... the uncertainty but strong possibility that this is vaccine related is a terrible prospect, and they still stand in line for the next one.

I once advised a friend to consider ending his marriage, because he was unhappy with her constant lies to him, but he didn't eant to leave because of his bond with the kid.

I warned him that a responsibility without rights is a heartache anyways. That his problems with his discipline beung undermined because he isn't the father would only grow as the kid got to learn the phrase eventually: you're not my real father. The mother was already saying the proto versions of that.

I decided to break with almost all the people that I could not protect against being vaccinated. It is for a comparable reason. If I can't protect the people I love, if they don't trust my judgement, if they don't value my advice, if they condemn me for even voicing it and if they refuse to consider it, how could they be the people that love me? And why love one directionally?

Some people took it, but they, despite disagreeeing, had the decency to at least think I may have a point. None of this group has gotten a booster either.

Mostly I am disgusted with how weak people are. That even when they know something is up, that they bow to tyranny. I wonder if it's an accident that the only people to resist the propaganda, all love working out.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

My ex absolutely spiraled in the early days of the lockdowns, he started getting full blown panic attacks and had to go to hospital for testing to make sure it wasn't really a heart condition because the chest pains were so bad. He became a paranoid curtain twitcher, texting me about people sitting too close to each other on the train to work and even just being out in the streets. Our country banned inter-county travel, complete with police checkpoints, so he wouldn't see me for months even though I could have gotten there on public transport. In hindsight I should have dropped him over it but I didn't, I kept trying to help him work through the distress and then he managed to meet someone else whose views aligned better with his. I don't know if that would have happened anyway if we'd been able to see each other, or if he hadn't been whipped into such a frenzy.

Voted everyone I know is based though because all my family and friends have very reasonable opinions on covid and the vax, the only other people who dropped me were annoying and I always tried to avoid them anyway so it's a win-win.

I can relate to your ex. I've definitely been far more on-edge throughout this entire thing and it hasn't been good for my mental health. Wouldn't say I reached curtain twitcher levels of paranoia but I definitely became less trusting of others in general.

 

[The Foxtrot]

I can relate to your ex. I've definitely been far more on-edge throughout this entire thing and it hasn't been good for my mental health. Wouldn't say I reached curtain twitcher levels of paranoia but I definitely became less trusting of others in general.

I'm right there with you. Especially with how prevalent the Branch Covidians are, it's really got me scared shitless how quickly most people just surrendered their basic rights and freedoms in the name of a disease that is literally a Chinese knock-off flu.

Not just that, but how quickly those same people tried to unperson, imprison, or cast out people who refused to go along with the mass hysteria.

 

[Anal Eclipse]

I lost myself, now I am a husk of my former self.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Yes and no. The people I "lost" I already had tenuous connections with. The Venn diagram of people in this category and those who randomly snarled about Orange Man unprompted in the three years leading up to covid hysteria made a perfect circle. I already scented mental illness before it went down, and their deranged response to all this silliness was confirmation.

Though it was funny when my ball of fat cousin confronted me about declining the jab. This woman
- declared that my unjabbed status put her children in danger. This is the woman who also proudly states she'd get titty skittles and hormone blockers for her 12 year old if he ever mentioned an interest.
- when I told her I didn't think the government should have a say in what I do with my body, up came the unprompted WOULD YOU PREFER THE PREVIOUS ANTIGAY ADMINISTRATION HMMMMMM ORRRRRANGEMANBAD!
- when I told her mRNA was a promising technology that has never passed safety trials, all she had was YES IT HAS. LOTS OF TIMES. WITH. OTHER STUFF. VERY PROVEN.

It's probably where I live, but there is 100% overlap between being a DNC NPC consoomer and being a covid derangement candidate.