Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Übertroon]

http://wdc.org.ua/atlas/en/4040100.html

They do. It isn't a claim. Also, I did say that I wasn't saying that was the reason Russia invaded.

"Ukraine has a rich profusion of mineral resources and belongs to major countries with abounding mineral resources. It has 20 000 of surveyed deposits and ore-bearing sites comprising 97 types of minerals. Over 8 000 deposits were proven and almost half of them are being mined now. The most important raw materials are as follows: iron, manganese, uranium, titanic, and zirconium ores, coal, gas, oil and condensate, kaolin, graphite, non-metallic raw material for metallurgy, facing stone, and mineral water.

In the early 90s these mineral deposits provided 23–25% of GNP and one third of export exchange earnings. The extraction and use of minerals provided for 48% of industrial potential of the country and up to 20% of its labor force; there were 400 mines, 1 100 quarries, dozens of ore mining and processing enterprises, gas-and-oil producing complexes. The value of mineral resource industry output made 20.1 bln USA in 1990. Today the mineral resources provide for 42% of GDP and 60% of export earnings. The assessed value of the main proved deposits of minerals exceeds 7.5 trillion USA, or 150 ths USA per head."

But they are a resource, which is the point I was making. The rest of your post was just bollocks.

>granite-greenstone
>beryllium
>zirconium
>Manganese ore
>Iron ore

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

A question, Russia says it entered a war because it can't have NATO members on its borders. But if they conquer Ukraine wouldn't that mean that the neighboring countries that are part of NATO are now a target for invasion?

Let's hope so.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Russian Conscripts Captured

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

>granite-greenstone
>beryllium
>zirconium
>Manganese ore
>Iron ore
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But you agree that they do have resources other than Agriculture?

 

[Bob jensen]

Will someone with skills I don't currently possess link the raw uncut video of that ambush?

 

[Reporterward]

A question, Russia says it entered a war because it can't have NATO members on its borders. But if they conquer Ukraine wouldn't that mean that the neighboring countries that are part of NATO are now a target for invasion?

It's anyone's guess how this will turn out. But one of the six demands that Russia has apparently made of Ukraine at the recent round of peace talks is for Ukraine to be "neutral". So that implies an independent Ukraine being left in place as a buffer state. My guess is with boundaries West of the Dnieper River but that's just speculation.

Moscow also wants recognition for Donbass and Lugansk breakaway republics. Recognition of Crimea's annexation into the Russian Federation. "Denazification" which presumably means the removal pro-Nazi political figures in government and paramilitary organizations like the Azov Battalions, and the elimination of "offensive military weapons".

As we type, most of these demands are becoming a reality whether one likes it or not.

 

[kuuu]

Any Russian speakers able to comment on the Chinese dude's accent? He seems to enunciate well to the point I can hear each word, even if I don't know most of them. Not what I'd expect from a Chinaman as their English accents are often very thick.
Just curious if it's blissful ignorance on my part or his accent isn't that bad.

Sounds like someone who has spent over 20 years in Russia. Taking into account that Chinese is a completely different language group.

 

[Übertroon]

But you agree that they do have resources other than Agriculture?

Sure, but like I said, The only thing of actual value is their agriculture. The rest is stuff that can more readily be harvested from elsewhere in Europe. Which again makes it laughable when western Russophiles try to use resources as an argument for why letting thousands of Russians die is worth it.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

The most important raw materials are as follows: iron, manganese, uranium, titanic, and zirconium ores, coal, gas, oil and condensate, kaolin, graphite, non-metallic raw material for metallurgy, facing stone, and mineral water.

Dammit, Putin is going to control the vital iron, "titanic", coal AND mineral water low-margin resource extraction industries.

 

[MrJokerRager]

The US president has limited authority to end national unrest. That's normally handled on a state or city level. That's why the response to the violence was completely different depending upon which state or city you resided in. Trump offered federal law enforcement and military to aid in ending the violence, but was rebuked by state officials who wanted the violence to continue. To go against state level officials would have led to such a fucking shitshow. This is why federal buildings turned into sieges in Democrat controlled cities, as they became the only place where the federal government could actually defend itself.

Trump as President lacked the power to suspend the American constitution and the Bill of Rights. Trudeau could have machine gunned all the truckers and sold their families into slavery through the Canadian concept of "emergency" legislation.

The Posse Commitatus Act's drawbacks were shown during that summer, and it was an intended feature of the act since old school Democrats during the 1876 election chaos wanted it as a way to stop the feds buck breaking them.

There was the 1807 insurrection act that I kept hearing about or Trump using the three letter agencies, except those agencies hated him and are full blown woke at this point.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Sounds like the DPR and LPR have been punching above their weight throughout this conflict, so far. Guess they've had enough of being shelled on for the last eight or so years.

 

[Jump]

"Report from Marik"

 

[Generic Retard]

Sounds like the DPR and LPR have been punching above their weight throughout this conflict, so far. Guess they've had enough of being shelled on for the last eight or so years.

People write about Ukraine having rotated their forces through the ongoing conflict for training, but these guys were always the ones on the other side of that, no rotation.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Sure, but like I said, The only thing of actual value is their agriculture. The rest is stuff that can more readily be harvested from elsewhere in Europe. Which again makes it laughable when western Russophiles try to use resources as an argument for why letting thousands of Russians die is worth it.

You didn't say that. You said they had no resources other than agriculture. Also, Russia fucking with those resources is fucking with the EU etc. Russia might not need the resources... doesn't mean they don't want them, for whatever political reasons.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Theory that Putin has detached himself from the world through Covid-isolation so much that he is now an erratic ruler.
(Apparently people had to severely quarantine in special hotels before meeting Putin etc.)

I like they projecting onto Putin, what Biden has been like ever since he started his campaign from the basement and has handlers everywhere with him to shut it down.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

Dammit, Putin is going to control the vital iron, "titanic", coal AND mineral water low-margin resource extraction industries.

But that's not what we were talking about, was it? You do agree that Ukraine has resources? Other than agriculture.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Russian mobile Anti-Air being destroyed by Ukrainian drone strike.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Any Russian speakers able to comment on the Chinese dude's accent? He seems to enunciate well to the point I can hear each word, even if I don't know most of them. Not what I'd expect from a Chinaman as their English accents are often very thick.
Just curious if it's blissful ignorance on my part or his accent isn't that bad.

Well enough. I worked in Chinatown and at work a Russian and Chinese guy began bonding; the Chinese dude not only spoke Russian, he sang a Russian song for us, the Russian was almost in tears.

Things like that are what made living in NYC fun.

 

[Generic Retard]

Dammit, Putin is going to control the vital iron, "titanic", coal AND mineral water low-margin resource extraction industries.

Well, a few Titanics would probably be worth a fortune, as pre-atomic steel goes for steep rates these days...
But Russia has lots of titanium. Enough so that the CIA had to run some gay-op to buy from the USSR for their spy planes.

 

[Madgneto Was Right]

My understanding is that Russia does not want NATO members within a certain distance of Moscow, not necessarily Russian borders

Looking at it from google maps, it looks there isn't much difference between the distance in Ukraine and the Baltic countries from Moscow. My guess is that the simplest, more razor thin excuse/explanation for the war is that if Ukraine joined NATO in a few years then it would've been virtually impossible for Russia to take it or use it as a buffer state, so Putin figured it would be more practical for them to take Ukraine now while it still was basically unaffiliated.
Guess he didn't expect the world to go completely nuts over a forgotten country, and tards on the west to call for a full attack on Russian all over the world.