Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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The tactical nuclear battlefield was a serious business, as it was considered one of the only ways to break up the Soviet tank rush, as the capabilities of the T-series tanks had been vastly overestimated and the Abrams vastly underestimated, along with just how effective the APDSFSDU round was for the 120mm gun.
I was under the impression that early on in the cold war some of the t series tanks were better than the earlier model Patton tanks we used at the beginning of the cold war.

Somewhat of a side note, but I wonder if this war will be the final nail in the coffin for t 72 sales. Between this and the first gulf War, they've had a relatively terrible combat record.
 
Except it wouldn't be smart to attack either. Just because the US would win doesn't mean it'll win effortlessly. The US would end up in the same position Russia is in now.
I'm not so sure about that. It is very hard to fight against an insurgency in a country whos people do not like you. But from Desert Storm we learned that you can steam roll a country which has low morale (which is the prevailing theory of Russians in Ukraine) with the right planning/technological superiority/etc. As I said, a war would not be smart (mostly because it would very likely end with nukes being thrown).
I'm still going with the political class did all their dirty shit over in Ukraine and left such a mess that there's no way to clean it up now. As in just burning the evidence and killing some people isn't going to clean it up. And they don't want Putin to air their dirty laundry to the world if he takes over Ukraine.

Also the WEF nations need another boogyman / power grab after Covid fizzled out.

Its also probably a lot of what you said too.
Honestly this just sounds like schizo-tier stuff on the same level as the whole Russia stealing the election stuff. Also hot take: the WEF holds no power and just say what they think the virtue signallers with money/power will see as good.
 
Some interesting stuff in China's propaganda site
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CHAN CHADS RISING UP
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Remember the schizo's who where saying this whole thing was a work by China with Russia's help to own the west? Maybe slightly less schizo now?
China controls the earth's lever tho. They built that dam that slowed the earth's rotation slightly lol.
That said, China doesn't need military action to totally owns the west xdd, they already own the western economy, and if they really truly needed to, they could either take or glass Taiwan to fuck the world's microchip supply in a big way.


:story: So the country which desperately wants to put people like Chris chan into places of power should be the ones to decide who does and who doesn't get nukes?
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Should they be? Probably not. Are they? Yes. They got Ukraine to disarm on the flimsiest promise of protection that they're currently not honoring.


Reminder you were exposed for jerking off to gay pedophile incest fan fiction and the only reason you don’t have a thread here is some janny thought you would neck and prevented it.
What the fuck? You wanna expand on that, buddy?
 
Honestly (imo) from everything I have seen from Russia/Soviets in the last 3 decades I am quite sure that so are they. I just think the US is too pussy (read: smart) to actually try and start a war with Russia or China. I could be wrong though.
The neocons are too impotent and blew their political capital on Iraq and Afghanistan, both disasters. Lindsey Graham can wish all the death threats that he wants on Putin since no one in the white house cares.

The neoliberals are just doing virtue signaling while probably going back to business with Russia is a few months. Though their progressive pets went the extra mile on wanting people to hate individual Russians.
 
The US kept tactical nukes in Germany for use in the event of war. It was always kept on the downlow. While West Germany knew, it was kept at strict public denial. Basically just the short range artillery stuff and the really fucking stupid light infantry "Davy Crockett" nukes. Which incidentally were the inspiration for the mini nukes in the Fallout games.
The US had Pershing missiles stationed in Germany since the early 1960s, and it was not at all a secret, at least not by the 1970s. Putting Pershing IIs in Germany caused a ruckus because they could reach the USSR, while the Pershing Is lacked the range.
 
The neocons are too impotent and blew their political capital on Iraq and Afghanistan, both disasters. Lindsey Graham can wish all the death threats that he wants on Putin since no one in the white house cares.

The neoliberals are just doing virtue signaling while probably going back to business with Russia is a few months. Though their progressive pets went the extra mile on wanting people to hate individual Russians.
A lot to unpack here.
The neocons are too impotent and blew their political capital on Iraq and Afghanistan, both disasters.
I'm not so sure about that. It is very hard to fight against an insurgency in a country whos people do not like you.
They are two different types of conflicts and we are not even directly a part of the current one. And from the looks of it, a lot of Americans are for at least some form of interventionism (most likely the giving of lethal aid).
Lindsey Graham can wish all the death threats that he wants on Putin since no one in the white house cares.
Many people cared, it's a dumb thing to say and makes America as a whole look bad, and many other politicians voiced their disapproval.
The neoliberals are just doing virtue signaling while probably going back to business with Russia is a few months.
Probably.
Though their progressive pets went the extra mile on wanting people to hate individual Russians.
While I'm not an expert on this, I have yet to see a democrat politician call for some of the stuff I've seen blue anon types have called for (i.e. Japanese internment level shit).
 
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A lot to unpack here.
They are two different types of conflicts and we are not even directly a part of the current one. And from the looks of it, a lot of Americans are for at least some form of interventionism (most likely the giving of lethal aid).

Many people cared, it's a dumb thing to say and makes America as a whole look bad, and many other politicians voiced their disapproval.

Probably.

While I'm not an expert on this, I have yet to see a democrat politician call for some of the stuff I've seen blue anon types have called for (i.e. Japanese internment level shit).
Those were the progressive pets that I was referring to, their celebrities and on the ground or online activists.

As far as the progressive caucus and squad, they pretty silent.

Lindsey Graham did say something very dumb but he likes to think that he is the president when clearly not. And even Trump has figured him out as well as of late.
 
Germany has never had nuclear weapons. Even during the cold war the Germans didn't want America putting them in Germany because it would potentially make nuclear annihilation of Germany more likely. Idk if America ever put nukes in anyways, but they definitely wouldn't have been under their control.

The US maintains nuclear bombs in several European nations including Germany and has since before the Non-Proliferation Treaty was drafted. Host states keep them in hardened mobile vaults near air fields and they train regularly in mock exercises with dummy bombs.

They can be unlocked with a simple code from the US if war ever breaks out.

Basically just the short range artillery stuff and the really fucking stupid light infantry "Davy Crockett" nukes. Which incidentally were the inspiration for the mini nukes in the Fallout games.

This isn't remotely true.

As said above the US has kept gravity bombs in Europe throughout the cold war and still does, we also formerly kept a variety of cruise missiles, ballistic missiles and even AA missiles armed with nuclear warheads. All operated by the native forces under essentially the same "in case of war send/enter code" that the current gravity bombs still do.

Italy was even supposed to have ship launched ballistic missiles and went as far as designing ships with Polaris launchers, that plan was scrapped though.
 
Ukraine says a Russian drone crossed NATO space and was shot down by Ukraine air defence. Its not confirmed by Polish side and since Ukraine really wants to get NATO involved it can be a fake news.

If not?
Then Ukraine shot it down, so it's not NATO's fault, Russia has no reason to drag them in, and drones are still in a bit of a gray zone in regards to what constitutes an act of war. NATO could use it as an excuse to go in if they really want to, but starting a nuclear war over a few minutes of airspace violation is probably a little too much clown, even for this world.
 
Those were the progressive pets that I was referring to, their celebrities and on the ground or online activists.

As far as the progressive caucus and squad, they pretty silent.

Lindsey Graham did say something very dumb but he likes to think that he is the president when clearly not. And even Trump has figured him out as well as of late.
Dude if you think that those people simp Lindsey Graham you actually might have a screw loose. Even some of the most retarded blue anon retards snapped back to reality (op there goes gravity) for just a split second to detest what he said. Also no it would be even worse if he were to think he were president and should be replaced in the next coming election (hopefully by a progressive democrat with backing by AOC).
 
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Does the Russian MOD hire someone to make decent music videos as they apparently did one for that airport drop.


Dude if you think that those people simp Lindsey Graham you actually might have a screw loose. Even some of the most retarded blue anon retards snapped back to reality (op there goes gravity) for just a split second to detest what he said. Also no it would be even worse if he were to think he were president and should be replaced in the next coming election (hopefully by a progressive democrat with backing by AOC).

I haven't follow much on MSNBC or CNN's views on Lindsey as Fox's Tucker has been bashing him and some of the other hosts indirectly have stated wanting non interventionism. They even gave Lindsey a chance to change his mind but he doubled down. I see him as a war hungry loon that thinks he is too big for his britches and has a history of trying to play all sides.
 
Then Ukraine shot it down, so it's not NATO's fault, Russia has no reason to drag them in, and drones are still in a bit of a gray zone in regards to what constitutes an act of war. NATO could use it as an excuse to go in if they really want to, but starting a nuclear war over a few minutes of airspace violation is probably a little too much clown, even for this world.
Even if it did go into nato airspace, they could easily claim signal interruption led to it going off course or something like that. Hell, they didn't even get that salty with the roaches for shooting down one of their jets when it went into Turkish airspace.
 
Does the Russian MOD hire someone to make decent music videos as they apparently did one for that airport drop.




I haven't follow much on MSNBC or CNN's views on Lindsey as Fox's Tucker has been bashing him and some of the other hosts indirectly have stated wanting non interventionism. They even gave Lindsey a chance to change his mind but he doubled down. I see him as a war hungry loon that thinks he is too big for his britches and has a history of trying to play all sides.
Most non-Fox MSM has been usually advocating helping Ukraine with humanitarian aid (mostly the refugee stuff) and were also disapproving of Lindsey Grahams comments. As I said before, those comments are a big no-no no matter who says it, and everyone called him out for it, even ardent war dogs. The fact you are using assumptions based off of a very small select group of loons is embarrassing and makes you look uninformed (which, I guess is literally what you are in this case).
 
I'm getting pretty tired of these Putinbros. Imma start my own thing: Les Freres Du Macron. Who's with me?
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