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Oxous said:
The Senate has done at least one good thing this year. They voted unanimously to make Daylight Savings Time permanent. This marks a dramatic turnaround in the fortunes of the Biden presidency and it seems all but certain now he will crack 60% approval.
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Don't car crashes spike on the day time jumps forward?
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Yep:
Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. And yet the early-morning darkness quickly proved dangerous for children: A 6-year-old Alexandria girl was struck by a car on her way to Polk Elementary School on January 7; the accident broke her leg. Two Prince George’s County students were hurt in February. In the weeks after the change, eight Florida kids were killed in traffic accidents. Florida’s governor, Reubin Askew, asked for Congress to repeal the measure. “It’s time to recognize that we may well have made a mistake,” US Senator Dick Clark of Iowa said during a speech in Congress on January 28, 1974. In the Washington area, some schools delayed their start times until the sun caught up with the clock.
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"Sure kids are getting injured/dying BUT MUH ENERGY SAVINGS THOUGH!"
The factual picture was a bit more complicated. The National Safety Council reported in February that pre-sunrise fatalities had risen to 20 from 18 the year before. In July, Roger Sant, then an assistant administrator-designate for the Federal Energy Administration, wrote a letter to the Post that noted a 1 percent energy saving achieved by going to DST equated to 20,000-30,000 tons of coal not being burned each day. Further, he wrote, accidents had fallen in the afternoons.
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Big thunk.

Also, found this under the aforementioned tweet:

Beta O'Rourke: As governor, I'll appoint a public school teacher to be our Education Commissioner.
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BeepBoopBeepBoop said:
Grant in retrospect was fairly good. His issue's lied in the fact that he had no clue how politics worked and got yanked around. He also got blamed for some things that didn't even happen under him like Teapot Dome and shit like Puck actively ran misinformation campaigns about him and you realize that Grant was fighting an uphill battle the entire presidency. He actually gave a shit about reconstruction, the Plains Indians, and his out of office world tour did a lot of good for US foreign policy. Southern Democrats and a lot of Republicans did not like the man.

Biden to contrast is a career politician and a friend to the establishment.

How the hell no one has made a mini-series about Grant going around the world astounds me.
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Confusing shit. Teapot Dome was under President Taft, not President Grant. And the Teapot Dome Scandal didn't fully break until after Taft died with it speculated that Taft's fatal heart attack happened BECAUSE he found out about the scandal or because his wife poisoned him so that he wouldn't live to see it bring him down.

Grant had a bunch of scandals but they all get vaguely talked about in high school history. Grant's biggest sin was that he was a career military man who had ZERO experience as a politician and who got gangpressed into running because his alcoholism made him an easy to control puppet for the swamp. The biggest scandal, the one that gets brought up the most if one DOES get mentioned, was the "Whiskey Ring" scandal where it turned out that Grant's administration was filled with people who were taking bribes to basically allow whiskey distillers/moonshiners to operate with impunity and legal protection in exchange for bribes to authorities to have them look the other way.

Grant basically meddled in the investigation, as far as wanting investigators to do it on the downlow rather than make noise and rattle cages, out of a misguided belief that rattling cages would make the guilty parties go underground and stymie investigations combined with Grant being shocked when he was told about the scandal and Grant in general being horrified at the extent of the corruption within his administration and not knowing who he could really trust.

The investigators however gave zero fucks and saw Grant's well meaning meddling as proof he was actively involved if not trying to cover up the scandal to protect his subordinates. Grant was eventually cleared but it did a huge number on his standing in terms of being accused of corruption that never went away.

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Hold up. Isn't regime changing the fucking KSA tantamount to declaring to the world that the word of the US is truly gay and dead? (More than it already has, with Ukraine and shit.) If you guys are willing to coup an ally just to get ahead... well, I welcome a world where everyone is shitting bricks not knowing when Uncle Sam is coming for their head next.
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It's the ultimate monkey's paw for going after the Saudis. They are the closet thing to a "good" Muslim nation in the Middle East as far as being our "allies" for better or worse.

The House of Saud basically rule the nation with an iron fist in a velvet glove and are the only thing keeping the crazy ass fundie Islamists from hijacking the nation and turning it into another Iran. Remove the House of Saud and you will be just ASKING for the Fundie Islamists to take over and if they do, then Saudi Arabia will turn on the US in a heartbeat and you'll have to have another humiliating evacuation scenario to get our people out of the country before they are killed or imprisoned ala the Iran hostage crisis, let alone having to evacuate ANYONE who's had any working or social relationship with anyone in the west, as Saudi Arabia would run red with blood in terms of purges where anyone remotely associated with western influences would be put to death.

Not to mention the running open secret that Saudi Arabia funds a lot of the violence in the Middle East and beyond (such as the 9-11 attack), shit that is tolerated by House of Saud because it keeps internal forces who want to turn Saudi Arabia into Iran busy elsewhere and not trying to overthrow the royal elite at home. Imagine if that motherfucking machine is turned against the US. It would make the ISIS terror campaigns of the 10s look like romper room.
 
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verissimus said:
Welp, there goes our pull in the Middle East. Keep in mind, just recently the Iranians just attacked one of our consulates in Iraq.
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And Brandon Administration will not do shit about it. Just sit and take it. And "we forgive you, please sell us more oil"
that is embarasingly weak and makes all the leaders in the middle east lose any remaining respect they had to the US.

That attack would never have happened under Trump because they know that retaliation would happen within hours.
 
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Cuckoman said:
That attack would never have happened under Trump because they know that retaliation would happen within hours.
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This really was them testing the waters to see if the old behaviors held true - because that same general attack did happen under Trump, and Soleimani got turned into a smear on the tarmac for his actions. The precedent was already set.

The middle east is already a political lost cause after Afghanistan - letting it fall and not going back for it just reassures any potential US allies in the area that the US won't stand up for their governments. While this is a good thing and nobody should dive back in to unfuck Afghanistan, it does all but guarantee that any government, even regime change governments, won't be particularly friendly to the US. Especially since so many regime change governments have piled up in the area that their political landscape is absolutely assfucked for another fifty years. Won't be much room for improvement until the warlords turned kleptocrats die of old age.
 
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MirrorNoir said:
Confusing shit. Teapot Dome was under President Taft, not President Grant. And the Teapot Dome Scandal didn't fully break until after Taft died with it speculated that Taft's fatal heart attack happened BECAUSE he found out about the scandal or because his wife poisoned him so that he wouldn't live to see it bring him down.

Grant had a bunch of scandals but they all get vaguely talked about in high school history. Grant's biggest sin was that he was a career military man who had ZERO experience as a politician and who got gangpressed into running because his alcoholism made him an easy to control puppet for the swamp. The biggest scandal, the one that gets brought up the most if one DOES get mentioned, was the "Whiskey Ring" scandal where it turned out that Grant's administration was filled with people who were taking bribes to basically allow whiskey distillers/moonshiners to operate with impunity and legal protection in exchange for bribes to authorities to have them look the other way.

Grant basically meddled in the investigation, as far as wanting investigators to do it on the downlow rather than make noise and rattle cages, out of a misguided belief that rattling cages would make the guilty parties go underground and stymie investigations combined with Grant being shocked when he was told about the scandal and Grant in general being horrified at the extent of the corruption within his administration and not knowing who he could really trust.

The investigators however gave zero fucks and saw Grant's well meaning meddling as proof he was actively involved if not trying to cover up the scandal to protect his subordinates. Grant was eventually cleared but it did a huge number on his standing in terms of being accused of corruption that never went away.
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I thought Teapot Dome was under Harding. Taft had a hand in it by making Teapot Dome Navy oil reserves then someone in Hardings Admin changed it so it could change hands. Regardless, I draw some parallel's between Trump and Grant in the way that neither of them had a good relationship with the press, their cabinets were a mess, and were political outsiders. It's a fairly shallow observation, but I really only use it in terms of the press.

Grant's Autobiography is great if you ever find the time. The story of how that book was made is movie worthy, how in the hell we have so many movies about Lincoln, but not Grant astounds me. The man met Kaiser Wilhelm and Emperor Meiji, he even advised them.
 
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JosephStalin said:
More bullshit from Buttbuddy. He's a useless sack of shit.


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"When the Pandemic's Over." Nigga, its been over. Its done, dusted. It's a stiff! Bereft of life, It rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch It'd be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolic processes are now history! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, It's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the fucking' choir invisible!! Its an EX Pandemic.
 
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JosephStalin said:
More bullshit from Buttbuddy. He's a useless sack of shit.


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Hey, Buttplug, how about you get up off of your lazy ass and actually try to do something about it? Oh, silly me. That would take away from raping spending quality time with your babies. How arrogant of me. :mad:

@tehpope
"When the Pandemic's Over." Nigga, its been over. Its done, dusted. It's a stiff! Bereft of life, It rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch It'd be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolic processes are now history! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, It's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the fucking' choir invisible!! Its an EX Pandemic.
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Ukraine: "Well, I'd better replace it, then."
 
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Constellationzero said:
Can you imagine if Trump did even a FRACTION--a TINY, TINY FRACTION of what Brandon has done?

Right now, we'd be discussing that it's been ____ months since Trump's removal from office. Probably even be discussing Trump's _____months of incarceration.
Along with the nth smug newspiece about how they just HAD to remove Trump because his decisions were amounting to outright torture and cruelty to the citizens.

Which really shows you all just how willful, tortious, and outright EVIL the dems--and their asshat cheerleaders are.
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We would all be in TES right now, which wouldn't even make sense when you think about it; the "enslaved" would go WTF at their "cult leader's" egregious and life-threatening actions.
 
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MirrorNoir said:
The House of Saud basically rule the nation with an iron fist in a velvet glove and are the only thing keeping the crazy ass fundie Islamists from hijacking the nation and turning it into another Iran. Remove the House of Saud and you will be just ASKING for the Fundie Islamists to take over and if they do, then Saudi Arabia will turn on the US in a heartbeat and you'll have to have another humiliating evacuation scenario to get our people out of the country before they are killed or imprisoned ala the Iran hostage crisis, let alone having to evacuate ANYONE who's had any working or social relationship with anyone in the west, as Saudi Arabia would run red with blood in terms of purges where anyone remotely associated with western influences would be put to death.

Not to mention the running open secret that Saudi Arabia funds a lot of the violence in the Middle East and beyond (such as the 9-11 attack), shit that is tolerated by House of Saud because it keeps internal forces who want to turn Saudi Arabia into Iran busy elsewhere and not trying to overthrow the royal elite at home. Imagine if that motherfucking machine is turned against the US. It would make the ISIS terror campaigns of the 10s look like romper room.
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So in layman’s terms, the House of Saud is the only thing keeping /pol/ from having the world’s largest boners over the possibility of the structures America put up decades ago being toppled down by Islamists, along with the possibility of the entire ME being United in Israel being wiped off the map, and making moves to get those things done.
 
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