Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[H. Bergeron]

Lezgo uploads be workin again!!

American mercenary who survived Russian airstrikes (on Yavorovsky training center, I believe) informs people to avoid volunteering in Ukraine, for various reasons (link).

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Wife of an American volunteer states reasons similar to the guy above (link)

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Burning in Nikopol after bombing (link)

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Lots of M1A2 Abrams tanks get carried by a train in Mannheim (link)

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First two videos are the most important. Really goes to show you the absolute, unadulterated state of the Ukrainian army atm

Video from a couple others there claiming it is bullshit. Link

And this is why twitter is shit for verifiable news.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Gonna press a serious doubt on that one Chief.

I think this may have been true if the US military had not fucked itself in Afghanistan and them fucked its soldiers with a stupid vax mandate. We have an all volunteer military and most of it is not infantry/artillery/armored cavalry. It would be stupid to get into any sort of confrontation with Russia. Then again we have stupid not only running the military but the country too, so who knows. I'm scouting fallout shelters myself.

Well, there are black people who wave the Confederate flag, so it's not that much of a stretch. Now if it were California or New York getting invaded, I'd agree there wouldn't be a cohesive resistance.

The US military itself though? Just by securing the skies and seas, the US would win. It's just that it'd take enough damage that it would look defeatable everywhere else and those neutral nations would draw themselves further away. Morale would shake since draft dodgers would absolutely break the Dem party. Soldier quality would also be Reddit-tier, but no one would know because their phones all got confiscated.

 

[H. Bergeron]

I can't believe we're on the edge of WW3 because of a bunch of westerners have to virtue signal so hard to potentially send people to their deaths. This could possibly be the gayest but deadliest war in history. God help us.

And here I thought we were near WW3 because Russia decided to illegally invade a country in negotiations with the west while having a fair number of economic ties to it as well.

 

[Vesperus]

Depleted uranium emits damn near no radiation. I guess it could cause cancer if you created a DP dilator and used it religiously, but I just don't see that happening. I don't even think you can pick up the radiation from it on a Geiger counter. It's basically just really dense and really hard which makes it good for AP purposes. It's actually even used for radiation shielding in some equipment. I used to have a DP slug, but I got drunk and gave it to someone.

Uranium is still a heavy metal, so it's not unreasonable to think that it might fuck you up chemically if you got any in you, as happens with lead or mercury. I can't find any evidence that this happens, but at this point I'm so cynical that I can't decide if that means it doesn't happen, or if (((they))) don't want me know it happens.
Fuck this timeline and its endless bullshit.

 

[mr.moon1488]

the problem is not the radiation. Uran is very toxic for the body. its effect on human is like lead on steroids.

Never heard that, but if the problem is like the toxicity problem from lead, you're probably good if you don't shove it in your mouth, ass, or troon hole.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Well, there are black people who wave the Confederate flag, so it's not that much of a stretch. Now if it were California or New York getting invaded, I'd agree there wouldn't be a cohesive resistance.

The US military itself though? Just by securing the skies and seas, the US would win. It's just that it'd take enough damage that it would look defeatable everywhere else and those neutral nations would draw themselves further away. Morale would shake since draft dodgers would absolutely break the Dem party. Soldier quality would also be Reddit-tier, but no one would know because their phones all got confiscated.

We're really not set up to fight a conventional war anymore. Planes that get shot down or badly damaged can't be quickly replaced. Same goes for tanks. We can't even replicate the intense mobilization of production we had during during WW2 because our idiot overlords moved everything to China (a communist country that has now aligned itself with Russia after we threatened to sanction it lol) for extra bucks. We'd have to reinstate the draft which would cause the wine moms and cucks to lose their shit when they realize their precious gender queer son and transwreck of a girl might get blown up by Russian shells and end the Twitter asspats. No, only an imbecile would risk a war with Russia, but that's who is running the USA, an imbecile and his cabinet of retards.

 

[Audit]

the problem is not the radiation. Uran is very toxic for the body. its effect on human is like lead on steroids.

This is a particular problem because it's pyrophoric and likes to form a fine dust when it penetrates armor. This dust can then get inhaled and fuck up your lungs. Some chemical forms that result from this include uranium trioxide which have limited water solubility. Like you said, it's lead on steroids that burns into a poisonous vapor when used and dusts the area with a chemically active heavy metal.

In 2013, an Iraqi university complained that birth defect rates increased across cities that had been exposed to DU munitions. Take it as you will.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23729095/

Spoiler: Abstract

Iraq is suffering from depleted uranium (DU) pollution in many regions and the effects of this may harm public health through poisoning and increased incidence of various cancers and birth defects. DU is a known carcinogenic agent. About 1200 tonnes of ammunition were dropped on Iraq during the Gulf Wars of 1991 and 2003. As a result, contamination occurred in more than 350 sites in Iraq. Currently, Iraqis are facing about 140,000 cases of cancer, with 7000 to 8000 new ones registered each year. In Baghdad cancer incidences per 100,000 population have increased, just as they have also increased in Basra. The overall incidence of breast and lung cancer, Leukaemia and Lymphoma, has doubled, even tripled. The situation in Mosul city is similar to other regions. Before the Gulf Wars Mosul had a higher rate of cancer, but the rate of cancer has further increased since the Gulf Wars.

 

[hooboy]

Soldier quality would also be Reddit-tier, but no one would know because their phones all got confiscated.

bottom line: US is unconquerable due to the population being heavily armed enlightened by reddit

 

[Arc]

Well Crimea and Donbass do have something to do with it, not in that he gives a wet fart about the people there, (the more DPR and LPR people die the better) but because that was his exact tactic with Georgia. He inflames ethnic tensions and funds any part of the population that is closer to Russia and pissed at the government, and then when those ethnic groups secede or attack, he has his excuse to come in and "save" them.

I was told whatever alleged gayops happened are irrelevant because PUTIN STARTED THE INVASION. And people needed to stop with the excuses because PUTIN STARTED AN INVASION. Whatever the US, McCain and other ghouls did is irrelevant, and the orange revolution was probably totally on the up and up and if it wasn't who cares because PUTIN STARTED AN INVASION.

How about, whatever grievances Donetsk people might have had or whatever "inflaming of tensions" happened or didn't happen it didn't matter because UKRAINIANS STARTED SHELLING RUSSIAN MINORITIES who weren't cool with a revolution.

And here I thought we were near WW3 because Russia decided to illegally invade a country in negotiations with the west while having a fair number of economic ties to it as well.

And here I thought we were near WW3 because Ukrainians decided to SHELL RUSSIAN MINORITIES.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

So I got curious and looked up how many United States generals were killed in World War 2, overall 31 were killed.
4 Lieutenant Generals were killed, of them, 2 of them were from accidental plane crashes and 1 was from a friendly fire airstrike, so only 1 was lost in combat to enemy fire, which was in Okinawa from an artillery strike.
9 Major Generals were killed, however 5 were from accidental plane crashes, 1 was from a fall from a balcony that was ruled a suicide, and 1 is disputed as being either shot down by enemy aircraft or from an accident.
20 Brigadier Generals were killed, which are the equivalent for Major Generals for Russian forces, 6 were accidental plane crashes, 1 was starved to death in a POW camp, and 2 are MIA so we don't know how they died.

So digging further, I looked for how many Soviet generals were killed, the issue is heavily disputed, Soviet record keeping sucked ass and Stalin loved to execute his generals so I got multiple numbers, but it seems it's in the 400-450 range, and I couldn't get any real numbers on specific ranks killed, I'll take off 100 of them and assume those were accidental deaths or the NKVD dragging them into a courtyard to end up with a nice flat 300. From the beginning of Barbarossa to the surrender of Germany was about 44 months

So far 4 Generals have seemingly been killed by the Ukrainians in a little under 4 weeks, to keep it simple for me I'll assume that one more general will be killed before we reach the second month of the invasion, so 5 generals every month to Ukrainian forces. If the invasion, by some ungodly means, lasts 44 months at the current rate 220 Russian generals will be killed, so they're losing Generals at fairly close to the same rate as they did in World War 2, if not higher if you think more than a hundred generals got dragged off by the NKVD or had an accident.

TL;DR: Russians have always sucked ass at preventing their Generals from being put 6 feet under.

 

[Josterman]

https://twitter.com/sbg1/status/1503752036650823695

and this dumb cunt

https://twitter.com/KellDA/status/1503908053334245378?cxt=HHwWhICy3YGa-t4pAAAA

 

[W00K #17]

Can we have a moment of laughter for the 2 journos that were killed?

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Gonna press a serious doubt on that one Chief.

It's true. Maybe not with niggers but with blue collar blacks. People will cast aside their differences if a larger threat appears, especially if it threatens their way of life.
That may not apply to slavs but whites and non-nigger blacks are civilized enough.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It's true. Maybe not with niggers but with blue collar blacks. People will cast aside their differences if a larger threat appears, especially if it threatens their way of life.
That may not apply to slavs but whites and non-nigger blacks are civilized enough.

I'm not saying blacks won't defend their own, I'm saying they wouldn't be cool with serving with the Grand Dragon of the KKK.

 

[H. Bergeron]

Well, there are black people who wave the Confederate flag, so it's not that much of a stretch. Now if it were California or New York getting invaded, I'd agree there wouldn't be a cohesive resistance.

The US military itself though? Just by securing the skies and seas, the US would win. It's just that it'd take enough damage that it would look defeatable everywhere else and those neutral nations would draw themselves further away. Morale would shake since draft dodgers would absolutely break the Dem party. Soldier quality would also be Reddit-tier, but no one would know because their phones all got confiscated.

And I specifically said the south. NYC and the like would run away like little bitches for the most part. South still has an overall American identity.

Y'all think we LIKED Stalin when we allied with him in WW2? Or liked the Taliban when we helped them fight the Ruskies? War is about who you hate more, and people tend to hate invaders more than just about anyone.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

And I specifically said the south. NYC and the like would run away like little bitches for the most part. South still has an overall American identity.

Y'all think we LIKED Stalin when we allied with him in WW2? Or liked the Taliban when we helped them fight the Ruskies? War is about who you hate more, and people tend to hate invaders more than just about anyone.

If you think blacks are going to take orders from the Grand Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan you need to put down the meth pipe.

 

[H. Bergeron]

I was told whatever alleged gayops happened are irrelevant because PUTIN STARTED THE INVASION. And people needed to stop with the excuses because PUTIN STARTED AN INVASION. Whatever the US, McCain and other ghouls did is irrelevant, and the orange revolution was probably totally on the up and up and if it wasn't who cares because PUTIN STARTED AN INVASION.

How about, whatever grievances Donetsk people might have had or whatever "inflaming of tensions" happened or didn't happen it didn't matter because UKRAINIANS STARTED SHELLING RUSSIAN MINORITIES who weren't cool with a revolution.


And here I thought we were near WW3 because Ukrainians decided to SHELL RUSSIAN MINORITIES.

Except by your very logic DONBASS STARTED THE WAR!!!! You fucking dumbass.

 

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It's true. Maybe not with niggers but with blue collar blacks. People will cast aside their differences if a larger threat appears, especially if it threatens their way of life.
That may not apply to slavs but whites and non-nigger blacks are civilized enough.

Absolutely. African Americans and the Good Ol' Boys would be armed to the teeth and fighting. The niggers would flee to some urban shithole up north and demand free shit for their troubles -- and they'd be given it.

This would repeat until there's no place for them to flee to in the US, then they'd either bail for Canada and demand more free shit or I dunno, scream at the Chinese army about how they have Yellow Privilege and act surprised when they're just put down instead of put up with.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

that's who is running the USA, an imbecile and his cabinet of retards.

The average age of the US' rulers is very high. The rest seem to be completely detached from the real world due to wealth.

 

[Generic Retard]

Stupid german politician stealing Hillary's lines
Google translate:

Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock drew attention to the fate of pregnant women in the Ukraine war. In the coming months, an estimated 80,000 women would give birth there, said the Green politician in a video message for a debate on the legal status of women at the UN headquarters in New York. "Many of them will not have shelter and access to proper care." The births could be life-threatening for them.

This shows that crises and conflicts by no means strike “gender blind”, said Baerbock. "They affect women disproportionately." This also applies to conflicts such as in Afghanistan or in the Sahel zone, but also to the climate crisis. Climate change endangers the fundamental rights of women and girls, such as the rights to education, health and physical integrity.

That is why women's rights must be placed at the center of climate protection measures, demanded the minister. In addition, women should be equally involved in decision-making processes. "If half the world's population remains excluded, we can neither keep the peace in the long term nor protect the global climate."

So it's not only war, but all crises now.

Depleted uranium emits damn near no radiation. I guess it could cause cancer if you created a DP dilator and used it religiously, but I just don't see that happening. I don't even think you can pick up the radiation from it on a Geiger counter. It's basically just really dense and really hard which makes it good for AP purposes. It's actually even used for radiation shielding in some equipment. I used to have a DP slug, but I got drunk and gave it to someone.

The problem is not the little decay Uranium shows anyway (half-life of billions of years). It is because it's an alpha emitter and with dust (conveniently created be smashing very hard projectiles into other things) being inhaled and giving people cancer from the inside.
Alpha radiation is pretty harsh, but even the dead skin cells on your skin can stop it. Spoiler alert: Inside your body is no dead skin protection to shield you.

Together with it's properties as a heavy metal this happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium#Iraqi_population

But all the studies say it's negligible, totally safe you guys (says study after study made for various ministries of defense lol)
I guess that's probably true for soldiers who come home one way or the other, but not for the local population.