Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[TurkishOreo]

Speculation time, when does Russian finally say fuck it and blow this dam up?

I know initially they probably wanted Kiev intact, but that isn't happening so it's either get it blowed up destroy all of it's services. What better way than flooding large portions of the city/country?

No idea what the water level behind that dam is, maybe Ukraine already lowered it in anticipation of the invasion.
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[Freezard]

Speculation time, when does Russian finally say fuck it and blow this dam up?

I know initially they probably wanted Kiev intact, but that isn't happening so it's either get it blowed up destroy all of it's services. What better way than flooding large portions of the city/country?

No idea what the water level behind that dam is, maybe Ukraine already lowered it in anticipation of the invasion.
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Blowing the dams has historically been a defensive measure, because it means all the roads downstream of it become useless. I don't think the Russians would have any reason to want to blast it (besides pure spite) even if they did want to invest the needed amount of explosives to cause it to collapse.

 

[Corpun]

So a late question, why is Zelensky so hated? Yeah I heard the spiel of him being a globohomo agent that won the elections unfairly. I can't say how much it is real, but for a globohomo stooge it seems he actually cares about Ukraine and tries to improve the situation as much as he can. Otherwise he'd have evacuated to a new country the moment the invasion started, like we fully expect a lot of countries presidents and elite will do.

Aside from being a stooge for oligarchs and globohomo, he was elected on the basis of ending corruption and warming relations with Russia that had been fucked since the 2014 coup. This is why he largely won support in the pro-Russia east as well as west, with only the staunchest Poroshenko holdouts staying on his reelection ticket.

He neither targeted corruption or warmed relations with Russia, and that's why we are in this mess now.

 

[mindlessobserver]

It's more than that. He misjudged the people. Now he has a government that won't quit fighting him. An army that won't quit fighting. And a populace who won't quit fighting. It's one thing to "win" by conquering the country but it's a whole 'nother one to pacify it. That is going to require troops and training and looooooong deployments for the foreseeable future.

He can't though. Not with the numbers of troops he's brought. Looking at the strategic situation right now, there is a very real possibility that not only will this invasion fail entirely, Ukraine will be able to seize the initiative.

The Ukrainian Army is still under central command with organized brigade level formations in the field. Never mind dealing with partisans, Russia hasn't dealt with the enemy army yet. This is worse then the winter war with finland. Because unlike Finland Ukraine has local supremacy once mobilized.

This is what people need to understand. While the Russian Army in totality is far larger then ukraines, Ukraines army in totality is far larger then the forces Russia has brought to this war.

Russia is rapidly running out of time. Within the next 14 days they are going to be outnumbered by the the Ukrainian Army. And if the flood of western weapons is as promised they are also going to be outgunned. Putin needs to order a general mobilization of the Russian Army Reserve NOW if he is to have any chance of averting a disaster. If not those 125-175,000 Russian Soldiers are going to find themselves neck deep facing off against 500,000 Ukrainians. Minimum.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Didn't the US also have a sky dong incident? I'm actually surprised there aren't more sky dong news from other countries.

It's also a legitimate holding pattern or something like that from what pilots I know tell me. Apparently it happens all the time.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Unconfirmed of course but has Russian sources backing it up. Another Russian Senior Officer killed, this time a Colonel who gave his life to add to the VDV's stellar track record in this war.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1504559857487294475

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I think some of the first VDV reports were either inaccurate or straight-up propaganda, but it does seem like they're not doing so good overall. I wonder why. I'd always heard the VDV were some of the best of the best airborne troops in the world.

 

[TurkishOreo]

Aside from being a stooge for oligarchs and globohomo, he was elected on the basis of ending corruption and warming relations with Russia that had been fucked since the 2014 coup. This is why he largely won support in the pro-Russia east as well as west, with only the staunchest Poroshenko holdouts staying on his reelection ticket.

He neither targeted corruption or warmed relations with Russia, and that's why we are in this mess now.

You can't spell warm without war.

Sure it took 8 years but finally Russia warmed up to them.

 

[whothefuck]

Russia is rapidly running out of time. They within the next 14 days they are going to be outnumbered by the the Ukrainian Army. And if the flood of western weapons is as promised they are also going to be outgunned. Putin needs to order a general mobilization of the Russian Army Reserve NOW if he is to have any chance of averting a disaster. If not those 125-175,000 Russian Soldiers are going to find themselves neck deep facing off against 500,000 Ukrainians. Minimum.

heres the thing, the russian army still mans its army through conscription. if he tried to do a general mobilisation there would be even more protests for him to deal with as russians realise they might actually be shipped off to fight in ukraine themselves

 

[MrJokerRager]

So a late question, why is Zelensky so hated? Yeah I heard the spiel of him being a globohomo agent that won the elections unfairly. I can't say how much it is real, but for a globohomo stooge it seems he actually cares about Ukraine and tries to improve the situation as much as he can. Otherwise he'd have evacuated to a new country the moment the invasion started, like we fully expect a lot of countries presidents and elite will do.

I am surprised that no one has mentioned this lol.

Though unsurprisingly given the nature of his industry, but it does rub certain crowds the wrong way and then add in that Ukraine was more corrupt than Russia with the Western Media hating on him, before Putler decided to relieve the old glory days of Mother Russia.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Blowing the dams has historically been a defensive measure, because it means all the roads downstream of it become useless. I don't think the Russians would have any reason to want to blast it (besides pure spite) even if they did want to invest the needed amount of explosives to cause it to collapse.

True but in this case I think it's a posibility, mainly cause almost all of the affected territory is still in Ukrainian hands. If anything blowing the dam would help to disrupt Ukrainian supply lines to the front in Eastern Ukraine, as well as flood Kiev.

 

[Certified_Autist]

 

[Freezard]

I think some of the first VDV reports were either inaccurate or straight-up propaganda, but it does seem like they're not doing so good overall. I wonder why. I'd always heard the VDV were some of the best of the best airborne troops in the world.

Airborne troops in general have a long history of being dropped straight into the worst situations. Crete, Normandy, the Netherlands, none of the troops dropped here were incompetent or ill-equipped. It doesn't matter how good you are if you get dumped right into an armored division. The higher level of training and capability helps to ensure that they even survive the drop and coordinate afterwards.
So them getting fucked here and there is just part of the job description, really. I'm hesitant to make any conclusions on overall performance until this is all over, because their operational success depends on...well, the operation having ended.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Make no mistake if Ukraine loses Zelensky dies. This truth is what is so inspiring. Too often leaders of nations very rarely stick their own necks out for their countries.

And Zelensky isn't either. He's sticking his neck out on Twitter while in a fortified position and making kids and untrained civilians take guns and go fight for him.

 

[doesnotglow]

The person who claims their project was wiped by a malicious package update targeting Russia and Belarus removed their comment but then links to another site containing the original comment. Very strange. Not sure why you would do that.

https://snippet.host/kvcb

some of the banter in there is pretty good

 

[MrJokerRager]

I think some of the first VDV reports were either inaccurate or straight-up propaganda, but it does seem like they're not doing so good overall. I wonder why. I'd always heard the VDV were some of the best of the best airborne troops in the world.

The Russian MOD released a video on some airborne troops a while ago, I assume this is the Hostomel Airport Raid unless anyone else can correct me.

Also made a music video out of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostomel_Airport

Also the An-225 was parked there and didn't know that was where it was destroyed.

 

[Übertroon]

And Zelensky isn't either. He's sticking his neck out on Twitter while in a fortified position and making kids and untrained civilians take guns and go fight for him.

So you've got two nation leaders in a safe location throwing peasants at each other, nothing remarkable about that

 

[Wash away the rain]

I tried to explain this russia/ukraine stuff to an elderly aunt last week and why it was happening and I told her Putin wanted to get one of the members of the USSR back into russia. She asked me what the USSR was, and i was just dumbfounded. "commie USA" was about all i could come up with to help her understand. To her credit she did ask me why putin was doing what he was doing, it was more than just him being evil, and she knew she was being lied to to those cocksuckers on the news. She's not a dumb person at all, she just had no idea, she's pushing 80 so a touch of dementia could be at play too.

You aunt might have a degenerative mental condition .

 

[mindlessobserver]

heres the thing, the russian army still mans its army through conscription. if he tried to do a general mobilisation there would be even more protests for him to deal with as russians realise they might actually be shipped off to fight in ukraine themselves

Yep, which is why I am becoming increasingly convinced Ukraine is going to win this war absent the use of nuclear weapons.

The entire Russian strategy depended on the decapitation strike. With that failure Putin has to go cap in hand to the Russian People and tell them they have to pay any price and bear any burden to please please help him win this war of choice.

The fact that he has not done it already speaks louder then words. Keep in mind they started drafting doctors and nurses a week into the war. Not a week before. Alot of Russian boys are coming home in bags, and countless more on stretchers. And the Russian advance had not moved past the border regions.

 

[Butcher Pete]

Jfc what's with everyone going off about adding people to their ignore list? Accept other opinions exist and fucking deal with it. We're here to sperg about war, not each other.

Won’t change their mind.
Won’t change the topic.
Don’t seem to have any other interests.

And each have a pattern of behaviors/markers (pronouns in bio, troon/fag, covid true believer) that strongly correlates with all of the above.

The privileging of certain views (and the silencing of others) is necessary to avoid drowning in the ravings of idiots.

 

[DumbDude42]

I think some of the first VDV reports were either inaccurate or straight-up propaganda, but it does seem like they're not doing so good overall. I wonder why. I'd always heard the VDV were some of the best of the best airborne troops in the world.

airborne troops often find themselves in impossible situations
on paper it might look like "we're so badass, we're dropping hardcore dudes behind enemy lines to strike where hostile forces least expect it!"
but in practice it ends up looking more like "oh no! we dropped our dudes into a situation where they are outnumberd, outgunned, unsupported and surrounded! help!"