Culture Schools are still segregated, and black children are paying a price

https://www.epi.org/publication/schools-are-still-segregated-and-black-children-are-paying-a-price/ (Archive)

Schools are still segregated, and black children are paying a price​

By Emma García • February 12, 2020
Well over six decades after the Supreme Court declared “separate but equal” schools to be unconstitutional in Brown v. Board of Education, schools remain heavily segregated by race and ethnicity.
What are the consequences of this lack of progress in integrating schools for black children?
  • It depresses education outcomes for black students; as shown in this report, it lowers their standardized test scores.
  • It widens performance gaps between white and black students.
  • It reflects and bolsters segregation by economic status, with black students being more likely than white students to attend high-poverty schools.
  • It means that the promise of integration and equal opportunities for all black students remains an ideal rather than a reality.
In contrast, when black students have the opportunity to attend schools with lower concentrations of poverty and larger shares of white students they perform better, on average, on standardized tests.

Black children are still relegated to separate and unequal schools​

Findings on school segregation and student performance come from the National Center for Education Statistics’ National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), the most comprehensive study of education performance in the country. We use the most recently released data to describe school segregation and its consequences for math performance of eighth-graders. These data show that only about one in eight white students (12.9%) attends a school where a majority of students are black, Hispanic, Asian, or American Indian. (We refer to this group collectively as students of color hereafter.) In contrast, nearly seven in 10 black children (69.2%) attend such schools (see Figure A).
As shown in Figure B, black students are also in economically segregated schools. Less than one in three white students (31.3%) attend a high-poverty school, compared with more than seven in 10 black students (72.4%).
FIGURE A

Black children are five times as likely as white children to attend schools that are highly segregated by race and ethnicityShares of white and black eighth-graders attending schools with a high concentration of students of color, 2017​

RaceHigh-minority (51-100%)
White12.9%
Black69.2%


ChartData
Note: Schools with a high concentration of students of color are those in which 51–100% of students are black, Hispanic, Asian, or American Indian.
Source: Author’s analysis of microdata from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP).
Share Tweet
Embed Download image
FIGURE B

Black children are more than twice as likely as white children to attend high-poverty schoolsShares of white and black eighth-graders attending high-poverty schools, 2017​

RaceHigh-poverty (51-100%)
White31.3%
Black72.4%


ChartData
Note: High-poverty schools are schools in which 51–100% of students are eligible for free or reduced-price lunch.
Source: Author’s analysis of microdata from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP).
Share Tweet
Embed Download image

In America, race and poverty are intertwined, doubly disadvantaging black students​

The known connection between race/ethnicity and poverty in the United States appears in data on the composition of schools attended by for black children. Figure C shows that a black child faces a very high probability of ending up in a school where a majority of her peers are both poor and students of color. While less than 1 in 10 white students (8.4%) attend high-poverty schools with a high share of students of color, six in 10 black students (60.0%) do.
In contrast, about a fourth of white students (23.5%) attend schools where most of their peers are white and not poor, while only 3.1 percent of black children attend such schools.
FIGURE C

Black children are highly likely to be in high-poverty schools with a high share of students of color, but white children are notShare of black and white eighth-graders attending low-poverty mostly white schools and and high-poverty schools with high shares of students of color, 2017​

RaceLow-poverty and mostly whiteHigh-poverty and mostly students of color
White23.5%8.4%
Black3.1%60.0%



ChartData
Notes: Schools with a high concentration of students of color are those in which 51–100% of students are black, Hispanic, Asian, or American Indian. Mostly white schools are those in which more than 75% of students are white. High-poverty schools are schools in which 51–100% of students are eligible for free or reduced-price lunch (FRPL). Low-poverty schools are those in which up to 25% are FRPL-eligible.
Source: Author’s analysis of microdata from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP).
Share Tweet
Embed Download image
When black children have the opportunity to attend the same schools that white children routinely attend, black children perform markedly better on standardized math tests, which we use here as a measure of education performance.
Figure D shows math scores of black eighth-graders in low-poverty, mostly white schools and in high-poverty schools with a high share of students of color. In high-poverty schools with a high share of students of color, black students scored on average 20 points less on standardized math tests than their counterparts in low-poverty, mostly white schools (255.4 vs. 275.3). In other words, scores are much lower in the type of school that black children are overwhelmingly more likely to attend (high-poverty, mostly students of color) than in the type of school (low-poverty, mostly white) that only 3.1% of black children have a chance of attending.
Though not shown in the figure, the gap between black and white student test scores is larger in high-poverty schools with a high share of students of color than in low-poverty, mostly white schools. By promoting policies that facilitate a shift away from our current pattern of heavily segregated schools, we would thus help close the gap between black and white students overall.
FIGURE D

Performance of black students suffers when these students attend high-poverty schools with high shares of students of colorMath performance of black students by school segregation, 2017​

Black
Low-poverty and mostly white275.3
High-poverty and mostly students of color255.4


ChartData
Notes: Schools with a high concentration of students of color are those in which 51–100% of students are black, Hispanic, Asian, or American Indian. Mostly white schools are those in which more than 75% of students are white. High-poverty schools are schools in which 51–100% of students are eligible for free or reduced-price lunch (FRPL). Low-poverty schools are those in which up to 25% are FRPL eligible.
Source: Author’s analysis of microdata from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP).
Share Tweet
Embed Download image
Unaddressed school segregation is a major longstanding policy failure. It consigns most black children to schools that put them behind academically. The persistent performance gaps between white and black children that challenge the education and career prospects of black children from early on demonstrate that school segregation continues to cast a very long shadow—from well before Brown v. Board of Education to today, and into the future.

This brief, published by EPI to highlight education issues for Black History Month, shows data that are part of ongoing EPI research on student performance and education inequalities. Information using earlier data on segregation and the consequences for performance for other groups, and technical details, are available in Martin Carnoy and Emma García, Five Key Trends in U.S. Student Performance: Progress by Blacks and Hispanics, the Takeoff of Asians, the Stall of non-English Speakers, the Persistence of Socioeconomic Gaps, and the Damaging Effect of Highly Segregated Schools, Economic Policy Institute, 2017.
 
Last edited:
  • Feels
Reactions: Koby_Fish
The crux of the article is basically "students are racially segregated along financial lines (poorer students, usually black, go to shittier schools because they can't afford nicer ones)". It's not really anything mind-blowing.
 
Hmm, okay well I’m on a shitposting streak today, so allow me to continue.

I heard that Condoleezza Rice lived in a real segregated neighborhood and school but that her parents and community really pushed her to exceed and set high expectations. She ended up being an accomplished pianist, PhD, national security advisor, and Gaddafi’s one true love.

I personally think we should spend less time trying to integrate schools and more time changing (Uncle) Ben’s Rice Brand into “Condoleezza Rice’s Rice” brand. I really think the representation of Condoleezza Rice on a bag of microwaveable rice would inspire an entire generation of young black girls to achieve. Uncle Ben’s Rice is out, bad for black Americans. Condoleezza Rice’s Rice is in. Great for black Americans. Brand back better! REPRESENTATION MATTERS. Sailor Kim Jong Moon for president.
 
What was the basis for ‘seperate, but equal’ being unconstitutional. I’m a philistine on a lot of cases, but it seems like a very dubious ruling. I can understand a few Supreme Court cases, but this one just stands out as being wishy washy on the legal justification for why it has to be thrown out.
 
It was facially demonstrable that "separate but equal" never worked in practice, and there was no reliable way to guarantee that it did.
That doesn’t explain why they declared it unconstitutional. That’s like saying we should abolish taxes because people skim off the top or the existence of the ATF inherently infringes on my rights so they should eat shit.

It just sounds like they they didn’t have legal justification for why communities couldn’t isolate themselves and threw everything out in a hissy fit.
 
Hmm, okay well I’m on a shitposting streak today, so allow me to continue.

I heard that Condoleezza Rice lived in a real segregated neighborhood and school but that her parents and community really pushed her to exceed and set high expectations. She ended up being an accomplished pianist, PhD, national security advisor, and Gaddafi’s one true love.

I personally think we should spend less time trying to integrate schools and more time changing (Uncle) Ben’s Rice Brand into “Condoleezza Rice’s Rice” brand. I really think the representation of Condoleezza Rice on a bag of microwaveable rice would inspire an entire generation of young black girls to achieve. Uncle Ben’s Rice is out, bad for black Americans. Condoleezza Rice’s Rice is in. Great for black Americans. Brand back better! REPRESENTATION MATTERS. Sailor Kim Jong Moon for president.
She was one of the most knowledgeable skilled people in the world when it came to dealing with Russia, but she isn't authentically black because she tried in school. She was beast mode when it came to Russia.

There was a little black girl on Oprah Winfrey's show who idolized her and Oprah arranged for them to meet. It was one of the few times you could look at tgat show and see value in it. Imaging how shitty that little girl's life is due to bullying for acting white.
 
That doesn’t explain why they declared it unconstitutional.
By itself, Brown was a context-specific reversal of Plessy v. Ferguson, which is the origin of the "separate but equal" notion.

It just sounds like they they didn’t have legal justification for why communities couldn’t isolate themselves and threw everything out in a hissy fit.
Brown has nothing to do with communities segregating themselves (and in fact didn't mandate the forced integration that soon followed), but with the segregation of the use of public facilities. The natural caveat of Plessy's verdict, also, is that the facilities needed to be equal-- meaning that it technically didn't allow segregation on its own. The issue is that it didn't establish any means to determine equality in facilities, because it wasn't within their means to do so, to begin with-- meaning that the fact that they even started to try makes Plessy arguably as bad as Dred Scott or Roe.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Sleazy Car Salesman
How is this still a fucking problem? We were given the solution to this when all the teachers refused to go to school because muh rona and they forced everyone into distance learning.

One Dumbass Kiwi's Plan to End Income Disparities Between Public School Districts

  1. Get all public school kids back on mandatory distance learning again
  2. Consolidate all online schools in the state into one statewide school district
  3. Make the top tier teachers create online pre-recorded lessons for he entire state
  4. Make the middle tier teachers manage the classes. It's online learning and they don't actually have to wrangle the kids, so it's ok to have bigger classes
  5. Use a combination of auto-grading and work-study college students to grade assignments, so the larger classes doesn't exponentially increase grading times for the middle tier teachers
  6. Fire the redundant / low tier teachers so now poor Zip Code students don't have to deal with them anymore and things are more equal between different regions of the state
  7. Also fire teachers who don't want to teach
  8. Also sell off the school buildings since they're useless now
  9. Use the salaries recaptured from the fired teachers and not maintaining a physical location to pay for internet and loan chrome books to the poorest students so they can access their classes
  10. Now all public school students have the same quality of curriculum and teachers regardless of where they live, at least within the same state. And this is using the wonderful remote learning system that teachers love because anything else would be literal murder.
 
The problems of non-white children in non-white majority public schools run by non-white Democrat teacher's unions and non-white Democrat school boards in non-white Democrat majority cities is not my concern, for I am a white Republican and have been entirely shut out of having any power in those public schools by the political stranglehold non-white Democrats possess over them. They wanted power, they got it. Look what they've done with it. I would be happy to help if possible because our country is made weaker by a significant proportion of its population being ill-educated by non-white Democrats, but by virtue of being a white Republican it is not possible as I am essentially precluded from any position where I could help
 
Bussing proved that moving gangbangers to good schools did not turn said gangbangers into model students, but rather just dragged the school down into the pit until the people who could afford to took their kids out and sent them to private schools, and caused those who couldn’t afford that to slide down into the pit with the gangs. Plus sending good students to shitty schools just gave them a shittier education and a slight leg up in applying to colleges as they didn’t have to work as hard to be in the top 5% of their class.
 
The problems of non-white children in non-white majority public schools run by non-white Democrat teacher's unions and non-white Democrat school boards in non-white Democrat majority cities is not my concern,
They wanted power, they got it. Look what they've done with it.
This right here. People love to bitch about how terrible inner city schools are, with the abysmal graduation rates and test scores and violence and so on. Then they spin it into a narrative about how this is proof of "systemic racism" caused by white people. But which schools consistently get the most funding in spite of producing the worst students?

Who runs those schools? Who's electing the officials in charge of running those schools? Who keeps re-electing them over and over? Hint: its literally the (nonwhite) parents of those (nonwhite) students.

At what point do we decide to stop wasting money babysitting people who are too stupid to function in society?
 
Last edited:
Back