US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[northstar747]

I have no inroads to know if anyone is planning this, but if I were a Cabal member I'd be eyeing Biden's relations to Ukraine with some... interest right about now.

It's a nuclear option, a guaranteed win to whoever uses it first will win the cabal war.... but also set off some hellish repercussions.

It is simply put not only enough to impeach Biden so long as they stick to similar legal arguments as used on Trump, but also lets them beat the drum of being principled as they were willing to use it in their own. Would be bullshit, but would play very, very well with moderates and independents.

So triggering it gives whichever side pushed the button all the power they need to puppet Harris. They win.


But holy fuck the cost. Midterms could be salvaged in the senate, house still lost but narrower. But the coalition would publcally shatter. It would require a helluva circus. And would break every alliance and agreement they have within the party and govermental apparatus.


So all three are staring at that button.

So I used to be a big reader on a website called Somethingawful.com. They have a forum thats gonna super mega turbo retarded.

They ve had many threads about china over the years and many years ago people with experience living, working in china explained. How corruption works there.

See lets say you want to do business but there is no rule of law, not way to enforce contracts, and the whole "honor among theives" shit.

So what you do is fuck hookers....together. No really you and business partners government officials and who ever go out whoring and you do it in front of eachother...no homo, and take photos. Now everyone is dirty and if you fuck with eachother your gonna have to explain why your fucking whores with these people. This creates trust.

The problem with Joe the laptop etc is this. They were all taking the money. The clinton foundation peddling political influence and favors using the ukraine to wash dirty money etc

It would evolve exposing too much shit.

It would work better to have nixon happen where joe steps down due to health and harris gives him a pardon and media does its sone and dance.

 

[Gehenna]

So I used to be a big reader on a website called Somethingawful.com. They have a forum thats gonna super mega turbo retarded.

They ve had many threads about china over the years and many years ago people with experience living, working in china explained. How corruption works there.

See lets say you want to do business but there is no rule of law, not way to enforce contracts, and the whole "honor among theives" shit.

So what you do is fuck hookers....together. No really you and business partners government officials and who ever go out whoring and you do it in front of eachother...no homo, and take photos. Now everyone is dirty and if you fuck with eachother your gonna have to explain why your fucking whores with these people. This creates trust.

The problem with Joe the laptop etc is this. They were all taking the money. The clinton foundation peddling political influence and favors using the ukraine to wash dirty money etc

It would evolve exposing too much shit.

It would work better to have nixon happen where joe steps down due to health and harris gives him a pardon and media does its sone and dance.

And that's what kept it out of use... until now. Whichever side presses the button has to make a deal with Ukraine or with Putin, whoever "wins".

I am familiar with the double edge deal. What is important with it is who holds the "photos".


You see, when any corruption gets large enough it becomes no longer viable for each individual to have dirt on every other individual. To many hands holding the pot is just begging for it to be spilled.

What is done is instead to put it in "trust". The main dealing party (in this case the Ukrainian government) secures its portion to fuck over everyone else. Everyone else then gets a small slice. Not enough to start anything on their own, not close, but enough that if multiple parties where to combine theirs it gets hairy.


So what you get is MAD. If the central party fucks around or tries to misuse its info, the other side combines and destroys them. If one or more parties fucks around on the other side, enough can combine theirs to force the central party to act to destroy that or those fucking around parties.


And that's where the interesting thing lies. The central party is paralyzed because it's being attacked. Meaning their can be no reprisal until it resolves. Giving time to either secure one's position or make a deal with the winner.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

One thing these guys forget is that a bunker is, by definition, a defensive position.

New Zealand looks all good, but some people just live to be assholes.

I think more than a few of these hyper-rich are going to discover that they just ensured they die as agonizingly as possible.

Mr. Backhoe and Mr. Jackhammer can ruin anyone's day.

See, I'm not interested in the supplies, the tech, or even the people.

I'm interested in killing YOU.

you clearly haven't been checking out the covid threat, the new zeland police and soldiers will rape their own mothers if a politican told them to, good luck with the backhoe or jackhammer on private property too. you think you'd go zimmermann quick in a self defense situation, you should see how private security acts.

That's very fascinating but they are massively overconfident if they truly believe "we can abandon 99% of the globe while it turns to shit and somehow we will maintain power". What will happen when the rest of humanity goes out looking for the missing billionaires? We are an insanely curious species. All it takes is one charismatic man with a dream to start a new Crusade to find the globalists and make them pay for what they did.

Imagine the billionaires sipping iced drinks on their private beaches when thousands of sailboats appear on the horizon, each fully crewed by battle-hardened men. Maybe they don't have guns anymore, but they do have weapons. And how many can your security forces kill before they're overwhelmed?

History will never be written by those who sought to escape. History is written by those who sought to conquer.

you clearly never read up on african history or asian history or redskin history. TL;DR anyone darker than a brown paperbag doesn't have that type of curiosity, theyll stay in the same housing projects and mud huts forever.

seriously, when the US went to afghanistan there were some villagers who thought the black guys blasting rap music were Russians from moscow.

I’m older than you apparently since I grew up in Denver with being told hiding under those dumbass school desks would save me from all the nukes dropped on Cheyenne Mountain. Even as a middle schooler I looked at those desks and wondered why it would matter. In retrospect maybe it would have saved me from flying glass and being flash blinded? Pretty sure I was dead anyways and so I agree with you. - what we are seeing is people not letting a crisis/headline go to waste.

it was all propaganda, it was obvious before the russians got the nukes where they would hit and how long you'd have and the power of the blasts. most people especially in the suburbs were 100% fucking fine, you're right about the glass and debris, but it would have been easier and cheaper to just have a storm shelter or rooms without windows kids could hide in.

but if they didn't do that then the 1950s equivalent to blue checkmarks wouldn't demand increased defense budgets

I've said it once, I'll say it again a dozen times - you keep turning up the heat on the pressure cooker of society while clamping the valves shut and you're going to get equalization. The longer it gets held back, the worse it will be when it happens - and it will the only question is when. On that day the person leading the crowd will make the SJW-delusion-Trump look like Mister Rogers in comparison. Everything is aligning like it has a dozen times over in history, the pattern is clear.

still waiting on the pro-segregationists to comeback in power, its only been 70 years. dumbass. all these retards think they can stay alive longer than the deep state can keep people irrational

The fatal arrogance that goes with every "pied piper" and "golem" strategy once more rears its head. If half the effort spent to manipulate and control people and systems were put to just making things work they probably wouldn't need to waste so much effort on gay psy-ops. They could probably still skim a healthy amount of the top, too.

It always makes me think about this one paper I read that tracked the profit margins of various criminal careers, and funnily enough the vast majority of them made under minimum wage when you calculated it all out. Seems simpler and safer to just do things the right way, yeah?

if you're talking about the freakonomics papers the problem is that A. no company hirs 8 year olds, and B. it was during a massive recession. a good chunk of those so called criminals actually did the right thing if you factored them in as rational actors "you need money and no job exists, then you have every right to steal, especially when you know cops won't catch you"

you'd be surprised how quickly gangs would vanish if every hoodrat's option wasn't "crips or nothin" but instead "crips or mcdonalds or target or walmart" there's a reason gangs usually employ middle schoolers as drug dealers and corner boys.

Another hilarious paper is one on the mafia, yes capos barely do better than factory foremen, the difference is that the capos aren't working 2000 hours a year and these psychopaths weren't getting straight A's in high school and certainly never attended college. If you're an ex-boxer who dropped out at 13 you would never get close to the type of money you're making illegally if you went legit.

You act like people are giving 6 figure jobs to 16 year old niglets all the time.

Part of it is they're evil. Part of it is they worry that if they don't have total control, somehow they'll lose all control. Part of it is competition from outside the club. If they allowed anyone to run a successful business, why wouldn't patriotic business owners someday supplant them?

Basically they have the mindset of the guy who's worried his girlfriend is going to leave him, so he psychotically tracks everything she's doing and forbids her from talking to her friends if he's not there.

The alternative is being blackpilled and I go through those phases too. But realistically we're talking about years before anything "real" happens. People are waking up though. It's a long process and they work endlessly to stop it but they can only delay it. People know something isn't right. They're trying to engineer Putin as the focal point of all discontent but it's not going to work for the simple reason that it's not psychologically satisfying. There was no 9/11 to get us into this war. There's not the sense of unity of "all of us versus the enemy". We're being told to hate Putin but also hate each other, and Putin is an enemy of freedom but here in the freest country in the world we have to eat less meat and use less gas.

They've simply gone too far to hold it together much longer. They're putting insane amounts of effort into quashing all alternative narratives but the truth still leaks out to millions. A lot of what's going on in DC is creating legal fictions to excuse their actions. If they just went full tyranny it wouldn't make any difference since the people aren't ready to revolt, but still they go through the motions. This means their priorities are misplaced.

They've had a window of opportunity since Biden got elected that is rapidly closing. One major false flag event, blamed on MAGA people who were funded by Putin, and they would have all the justification they needed to go into instant East Germany mode. They didn't do this. Either they can't do it or they didn't think of it. Their biggest mistake was giving us the time to think about things.

Yeah, that's a strong possibility. Napoleon wasn't French. I see them joining the white nationalists as "honoraries" and everyone gets to racemixing so that there's no hispanic identity left in America in 2 generations. It's the best thing for them. The smart ones will do it. Who wouldn't want to join the white race?

the problem with the napoleon example is that him and also stalin were carried into power, they didn't start the revolution, for fucks sake napoleon was unemployed and had a warrant out for him when it was going on, they just had small posts early on and advanced through the chain of command until about a decade after the revolutions they got into power. thats the ironic part about revolutionaries they don't end up in power for very long specifically because of their tendency to be so prone to violence.

that also plays into the 3 generation idea of busnesses, the young one that grew with the business knows what life was like before its founding and then carries that with them ends up in charge a lot longer and gets most of the glory they might not have set up the idea but they have a much better understanding of how to keep it running vs the guy who got it started.

I have no inroads to know if anyone is planning this, but if I were a Cabal member I'd be eyeing Biden's relations to Ukraine with some... interest right about now.

It's a nuclear option, a guaranteed win to whoever uses it first will win the cabal war.... but also set off some hellish repercussions.

It is simply put not only enough to impeach Biden so long as they stick to similar legal arguments as used on Trump, but also lets them beat the drum of being principled as they were willing to use it in their own. Would be bullshit, but would play very, very well with moderates and independents.

So triggering it gives whichever side pushed the button all the power they need to puppet Harris. They win.


But holy fuck the cost. Midterms could be salvaged in the senate, house still lost but narrower. But the coalition would publcally shatter. It would require a helluva circus. And would break every alliance and agreement they have within the party and govermental apparatus.


So all three are staring at that button.

i agree with the others, even in the worst case scenario no one would forced biden into the history books that way, it would solidify him as the worst president ever. instead the second the mid terms happen he ends up in the hospital, and jan 21st they cohencidenly say Biden quits.

it even makes more sense, any history teacher could go "yeah he was the oldest president, had lots of corruption under him, he took a turn right after election and was so useless people took advantage of the government, and after 2 years he realized how bad it was and quit. just like Harding. and Kamala is exactly like Calvin, she was cohencidenly the only person in his circle not corrupt which is why she was the only one not fired in this green teapot dome scandal"

And if they go with the "biden got too old but he at least admitted it like a real strong man" narrative they can convince everyone that anyone 78 or older is a brain dead retard and that would fucking destroy trump. also it would cushion the blow that is life expectancy dropping to 69 because of covid/vaxx

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

And that's what kept it out of use... until now. Whichever side presses the button has to make a deal with Ukraine or with Putin, whoever "wins".

I am familiar with the double edge deal. What is important with it is who holds the "photos".


You see, when any corruption gets large enough it becomes no longer viable for each individual to have dirt on every other individual. To Manu hands holding the pot is just begging for it to be spilled.

What is done is instead to put it in "trust". The main dealing party (in this case the Ukrainian government" secures its portion to fuck over everyone else. Everyone else then gets a small slice. Not enough to start anything on their own, not close, but enough that if multiple parties where to combine theirs it gets hairy.


So what you get is MAD. If the central party fucks around or tries to misuse its info, the other side combines and destroys them. If one or more parties fucks around on the other side, enough can combine theirs to force the central party to act to destroy that or those fucking around parties.


And that's where the interesting thing lies. The central party is paralyzed because it's being attacked. Meaning their can be no reprisal until it resolves. Giving time to either secure one's position or make a deal with the winner.

The Progressives seem like they'd come the cleanest out of impeaching Biden. Their ties to politics started around 2017 or 18 when the Justice Democrats formed. Their money laundering would come from working with the Establishment whom have been doing it longer, but they're more connected to The Young Turks and thus Qatar rather than Ukraine.

The Establishment can't use it because it reminds people of other sus US-Russian deals like Urainium One under Clinton. Also, they're far too linked to Ukranian corruption to risk just how deep their Burisma postings go. If there was a basic weakness the Establishment Dems have, it's that I can't explain their ethos at all; crony capitalism is a pejorative term. I can at least say the Justice Dems are the socialist party that initially formed to clear out corruption in the Dem party.

 

[The Ugly One]

The Progressives seem like they'd come the cleanest out of impeaching Biden. Their ties to politics started around 2017 or 18 when the Justice Democrats formed. Their money laundering would come from working with the Establishment whom have been doing it longer, but they're more connected to The Young Turks and thus Qatar rather than Ukraine.

The Establishment can't use it because it reminds people of other sus US-Russian deals like Urainium One under Clinton. Also, they're far too linked to Ukranian corruption to risk just how deep their Burisma postings go. If there was a basic weakness the Establishment Dems have, it's that I can't explain their ethos at all; crony capitalism is a pejorative term. I can at least say the Justice Dems are the socialist party that initially formed to clear out corruption in the Dem party.

One of the Squad fake-married her brother to commit immigration fraud. Don't forget No Refunds' three houses, either. The Progressives are just as dirty as the rest of them. Biden's not going to get impeached in the House for his Ukraine dealing. Same reason they didn't get Clinton for Whitewater or his Chinese campaign donations. They all do it.

 

[CrippleThreat]

This nigga is aging backwards or losing weight like it's nothing.

 

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I have no inroads to know if anyone is planning this, but if I were a Cabal member I'd be eyeing Biden's relations to Ukraine with some... interest right about now.

It's a nuclear option, a guaranteed win to whoever uses it first will win the cabal war.... but also set off some hellish repercussions.

It is simply put not only enough to impeach Biden so long as they stick to similar legal arguments as used on Trump, but also lets them beat the drum of being principled as they were willing to use it in their own. Would be bullshit, but would play very, very well with moderates and independents.

So triggering it gives whichever side pushed the button all the power they need to puppet Harris. They win.


But holy fuck the cost. Midterms could be salvaged in the senate, house still lost but narrower. But the coalition would publcally shatter. It would require a helluva circus. And would break every alliance and agreement they have within the party and govermental apparatus.


So all three are staring at that button.

What if the GOP pushes the button before the Cabal can? Someone like Cruz steps forward and says "now that the Biden laptop is confirmed, as well as the Biden Diary, We must immediately hold an investigation as to Joe Biden embezzling foreign aid through the Ukraine, and / or Joe Biden apparently being sexually inappropriate with his granddaughter."

 

[Snekposter]

What if the GOP pushes the button before the Cabal can? Someone like Cruz steps forward and says "now that the Biden laptop is confirmed, as well as the Biden Diary, We must immediately hold an investigation as to Joe Biden embezzling foreign aid through the Ukraine, and / or Joe Biden apparently being sexually inappropriate with his granddaughter."

Nothing unites a divided foe like an outside threat. The Republicans would have to offer one of the sides a way out in order to break the Cabal apart. Most likely Big Tech (aka social media, ISPs, Google, CloudFlare, etc.), in a deal that lets them come out unscathed, provided they walk back their censorship. Section 230 is a real threat to them thanks to their actions, and should the Republicans unite behind wielding it, that would be quite the leverage at their disposal.

Wait until the midterms are over though, because if things go as blood-red as Gehenna has predicted, things will well and truly get spicy.

 

[Cuckoman]

Nothing unites a divided foe like an outside threat. The Republicans would have to offer one of the sides a way out in order to break the Cabal apart. Most likely Big Tech (aka social media, ISPs, Google, CloudFlare, etc.), in a deal that lets them come out unscathed, provided they walk back their censorship. Section 230 is a real threat to them thanks to their actions, and should the Republicans unite behind wielding it, that would be quite the leverage at their disposal.

Wait until the midterms are over though, because if things go as blood-red as Gehenna has predicted, things will well and truly get spicy.

Agree. Also, why on earth would GOP try to 25 Biden before the midterms? He is unpopular, he is seen as weak and ineffective. The longer he remains the boat anchor attached to all democratoc congress members the better for GOP.

 

[Gehenna]

What if the GOP pushes the button before the Cabal can? Someone like Cruz steps forward and says "now that the Biden laptop is confirmed, as well as the Biden Diary, We must immediately hold an investigation as to Joe Biden embezzling foreign aid through the Ukraine, and / or Joe Biden apparently being sexually inappropriate with his granddaughter."

Because that would possibly unite the cabal against a common enemy.

Edit: Ninja'd!

 

[JohnDoe]

So all three are staring at that button.

The situation is like a monsterous hybrid of the Prisoner's dilemma and a game of chicken. I think the real thorny issue is that there is enough overlap between the factions that they might predict when one of the others will push the button, and therefore try to beat them to the punch and launch it themselves. If all three trigger the issue simultaneously, or near enough that they overlap (and I don't think they can deploy it in a way that is fast or reversible enough to avoid this) then it won't benefit any of them. Either that or a counter offensive that ensure a kind of political MAD result among their cabals, as a kind of Samson option.

I'll admit that I get a bit of schadenfreude thinking about the higher echelons restlessly tossing in their silken beds, thrumming with fear that a 'launch alert' will sound in the night.

 

[Snekposter]

https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1505877294728060934

(Reuters) - Executives from the U.S. oil and other industries were invited to the White House on Monday for discussions with officials amid soaring gas prices and rising inflation, sources told Reuters.

Unfortunately I'm a fag who can't embed, so have the quote, and as is usual, a Snekposter pop culture quote:

"We've known each other for many years, and this is the first time you ever came to us for counsel. We can't remember the last time you invited us to a dinner or a fundraiser, even though we're a big business. But let's be frank here. You never wanted our friendship. You were afraid to be in our debt."
"I didn't want to get into trouble with Burisma."
"We understand. You found paradise overseas. Had a good racket, made a good living. The petrodollar protected you, there were international norms. And you didn't need friends like us. But there, now you come to us, you say, ExxonMobil, Shell, give me low gas prices. But ya don't ask with respect. Ya don' offer friendship. Ya don't even think to call us donors."

 

[soy_king]

Agree. Also, why on earth would GOP try to 25 Biden before the midterms? He is unpopular, he is seen as weak and ineffective. The longer he remains the boat anchor attached to all democratoc congress members the better for GOP.

I think it's important for them to be seen to be doing something, ie holding his feet to the fire while not actually getting them anywhere near the flames. Putting a special counsel on it with general instructions not to dig too deep would appease the populist wing while not causing too much real stress to anyone.

 

[thyme's up]

What if the GOP pushes the button before the Cabal can? Someone like Cruz steps forward and says "now that the Biden laptop is confirmed, as well as the Biden Diary, We must immediately hold an investigation as to Joe Biden embezzling foreign aid through the Ukraine, and / or Joe Biden apparently being sexually inappropriate with his granddaughter."

Lol Cruz would never. He's shown time and time again that he's all talk and only action when it benefits him, not the people. I'm to the point where I wonder if every single person in DC is involved in protecting their hide when it comes to Ukraine. How deep does it go?

I'll admit that I get a bit of schadenfreude thinking about the higher echelons restlessly tossing in their silken beds, thrumming with fear that a 'launch alert' will sound in the night.

I don't think they do because they all live in a fantasy world where they believe they'll come out on top. Maybe the fear is there, but so deep inside the tiny portion of their brain where reality sits it never comes to the surface. Instead it's either constant plotting to stab someone else in the back, or peak Scarlet O'Hara cope--they can't handle thinking about it today, so they'll think about it tomorrow/next week/never.

A tad off topic, but after reading the latest lawfare from Alec Baldwin and how through his warped mind he has completely exonerated himself from any speck of blame for killing someone while blaming everyone else, including the victim, I've concluded that these types of people all think like this. It's sociopathic, if not downright psychotic.

The ones that are scared are the lesser elite whose positions aren't as "secure". They don't sleep on silk sheets. They probably don't sleep at all.

 

[Flan Handler]

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Hey! I responded to that poll. As usual, my Indigenous-identifying masters degree-holding poll-answering persona answered all on the yellow side here.

 

[b0x]

What if the GOP pushes the button before the Cabal can? Someone like Cruz steps forward and says "now that the Biden laptop is confirmed, as well as the Biden Diary, We must immediately hold an investigation as to Joe Biden embezzling foreign aid through the Ukraine, and / or Joe Biden apparently being sexually inappropriate with his granddaughter."

I don't think theres a real DNC/GOP divide. Sure they talk a big talk, but almost all are like the WWE, their actions demonstrate they are all under the same company, merely acting out storylines. Remember how many Republicans sided with the Democrats over the impeaching of Trump? Remember the Republican NeverTrump movement?

Trump was the only major establishment fuck up, they didn't predict the power of the internet in politics, Trump was supposed to be Hillarys strawman to knock over, but they miscalculated, so after 2016 the tech companies and media went full "shut it down" on the internet mode. No more "hate speech".

 

[Celebrate Nite]

No more "hate speech".

Which is followed by a gigantic asterisk that reads "unless you're white, a man, or both, the get fucked!" because it's O.K. when they do it.

"Hate Speech" never went away. It still exists, only the retards in the left seem to be under the impression that "if we reverse it, then it's good again", except that it makes them immediately look like gigantic hypocrites. Twitter is awash with millions of posts from women that bash men, libs that bash republicans, and troons/niggers that bash everyone that isn't them. Banning Orange Man from Twitter didn't solve shit when the underlying problem are the people that control the narrative in the first place. The same people who are so fucking mental, they do things like get up from their seat, rub their hands and dace while Biden is speaking in the same room.

 

[JustSomeDong]

you'd be surprised how quickly gangs would vanish if every hoodrat's option wasn't "crips or nothin" but instead "crips or mcdonalds or target or walmart"

@Kramer on the phone have you ever actually worked a joejob like that with actual bangers and hoodrats? If so, did you manage to keep a straight face while writing this?

 

[b0x]

I was wondering. Now that the NYT has confirmed the Hunter Biden Laptop as legit, wheres the media or political outrage about Hunter Biden doing cocaine with Malia Obama and then fucking her? Wheres the media outrage about him engaged in sex acts with Bidens underage granddaughter? No ones touching it. Even the supposed "political enemies" of Biden, do nothing. That should tell you all you need to know about how things actually work.

 

[The Ugly One]

What if the GOP pushes the button before the Cabal can? Someone like Cruz steps forward and says...

"now that Putin has revealed his true Hitler-like ambitions for global domination and nuclear holocaust, we must come together and put behind us questions of financial improprieties. Such things are trivialities when the survival of humanity is at stake and the need for a strong international response to military aggression is needed."

If Congress even acknowledges it, that is.