Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Protistology]

We met online, and during the LDR stage of the relationship he presented himself as being fully male - I had absolutely no idea that he wanted to transition until he moved in with me months later, at which point he finally decided to tell me.

It's like a reverse "surprise I stopping talking birth control and I'm pregnant". I bet he gaslit you and called you selfish for being upset.

He then proceeded to guilt trip me and say that "he wouldn't change on the inside, he'd still be the same person I knew and loved no matter what"

Ah, there it is

 

[Aunt Carol]

Holy shit. Four years of that--you didn't exactly dodge a bullet, but you definitely evaded enough to make a kill shot into a flesh wound.

And now he's a big titty model on Twitter/Patreon with over 50k followers. I think plenty of them don't even know he's trans, because he goes to great lengths to crop out his face or wear a mask since he's got a very masculine face shape, as seen in this rarer pic where he does reveal his face:

Spoiler: Troon with Gigantic Tits

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You know, with giant breast implants and only breast implants, this guy is clearly a fetishist but he's making comparatively sound decisions to the ones we usually see around here.

Keep the dick and the testosterone intact = maxiumum coom.

Makeup? Spending more than $20 on a wig? Nah; if it's not a titty, he's not interested.

 

[Hepativore]

Holy shit. Four years of that--you didn't exactly dodge a bullet, but you definitely evaded enough to make a kill shot into a flesh wound.

You know, with giant breast implants and only breast implants, this guy is clearly a fetishist but he's making comparatively sound decisions to the ones we usually see around here.

Keep the dick and the testosterone intact = maxiumum coom.

Makeup? Spending more than $20 on a wig? Nah; if it's not a titty, he's not interested.

For actual women, breasts that big would cause crippling back problems. Ironically, with all of the time and money spent to live out a fetish, most troons would be lucky to have any sexual sensation left in their mutilated genitalia afterward, anyway.

 

[Ser Prize]

@Taco Salad
I've said it before and I'll say it again: men who play roleplay as women are in great danger of trooning.

 

[Grand Omega]

Those are no longer tits in my eyes, but an abomination that I'm stunned as to how they haven't escaped from the chest à la Alien.

 

[NerdShamer]

@Taco Salad him going just for the breast implants is pretty low-key compared to this.

Spoiler: NSFL

But at any rate, I've archived an sample of his art, in case he nukes it. And yes, you've really dodged an bullet.



Twitch channel.

Spoiler: Melons

FurAffinity with the same fucking screenname.

 

[Abdul Alhazred]

I've had two people troon out in my life in the past couple years. I had met both of them in high school, in senior year. One was a gay dude who hung around a lot of homosexuals and was already having a lot of red flags (acting effeminately constantly, most friends being women). After he trooned it kind of redpilled me how awful this gender bullshit and progressive thought was. I remember speaking to him and his friends once and he casually brought up licking piss off the floor and showed zero shame about it. Really disgusted me. The other was some dude who was very into shit like Melt-Banana and SMT. He was pretty cool, and generally is more laid back about the trans and political shit then most trannies. I still talk to him occasionally. I do wonder if stopping being friends with the first troon was a mistake though, because I got booted from the friend group I was a part of for a few years once I did that, but it's spilled milk at this point. Side note, but I'm shocked at the amount of women on this site, lol. Can we get some gender stats for Kiwifarms?

 

[GenitalFetishist]

Side note, but I'm shocked at the amount of women on this site, lol. Can we get some gender stats for Kiwifarms?

A lot of women who TERF out end up getting funneled to places like this where we can hate on troons in relative peace. There are other places to go if you don't like the culture of the farms, but this forum is active and (more importantly) not a reddit or twitter knockoff.

Also, to steal a line from a kiwi I can't remember: it's a bitchy gossip forum. Of course there are women here.

 

[Hepativore]

A lot of women who TERF out end up getting funneled to places like this where we can hate on troons in relative peace. There are other places to go if you don't like the culture of the farms, but this forum is active and (more importantly) not a reddit or twitter knockoff.

Also, to steal a line from a kiwi I can't remember: it's a bitchy gossip forum. Of course there are women here.

A lot of women, particularly lesbian and bisexual women are also getting turned off by how MTFs are invading their spaces or trying to take over the LGB scene. There are also a surprising number of lesbians and people who are LGB here on the farms as well.

I am not sure if the LGB Alliance is strictly a UK group, but it would not surprise me if they do not have an American chapter soon if not already.

 

[Baraadmirer]

@Taco Salad 's story is what perplexes me about autogynephiles that want big breasts. Granted, I'm not female, but have they never taken biology classes in secondary school? Breast tissue is made up of a lot of fatty connective tissue, which has weight. They do not automatically achieve buoyancy in air.

 

[snake aids]

The first part of Taco Salad's (not sure how to mention, sorry) story is pretty similar to my situation, until the weird fucked up fetish part. What the actual hell? I am so sorry you had to deal with that freak, that is straight up revolting. My situation was definitely not as bad, though my ex was probably only attracted to me because I'm more on the "petite" side (I dont have giant knockers, basically) and the closest he could get to an IRL "loli" without being an actual pedophile. Why are so many troons revolting? Again, I'm sorry you had to deal with such a weirdo, glad you didn't get sucked into it though.

 

[NerdShamer]

Why are so many troons revolting?

Something about body positivity and the pro-sex workers movement enabling them.

 

[Tsukasa Kadoya]

Slight Powerlevel ahead.
My only friend in college moved to Japan and was silent on social media for a year. I assumed he had died from the coof, but during a random jaunt on LinkdIn I found my friend while looking at the profile of another former friend (who is a Chicom shill but that isn't relevant).
He had trooned out and looks absolutely hideous.
Maybe there are worse things than death out there.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

@Taco Stand. That's horrifying. That guy is seriously disturbed.

No offense but I am baffled on how those these men ever find their way into a commited relationship to begin with. And then they do and squander it like this, lunacy.

 

[teriyakiburns]

@Taco Stand. That's horrifying. That guy is seriously disturbed.

No offense but I am baffled on how those these men ever find their way into a commited relationship to begin with. And then they do and squander it like this, lunacy.

Mid-life crisis is a hell of a thing.

 

[Jimmy Olsen]

Same girl as I talked about before, just missing her a lot today, don't know why. There's something about it that hurts extra when the person who trooned was also the first person you had serious feelings for. Also, all the time we spent together. I can't count all the late nights I spent comforting her (not complaining, I was happy to be there when she needed me).

There are also a surprising number of lesbians and people who are LGB here on the farms as well.

Spoiler: fag shit

Look at stuff like (old, not the unfunny dreck they do now) drag performances and old LGB (even occasionally T) comedians. Except for sometimes the lesbians, we aren't traditionally a super PC bunch. After all, being gay wasn't politically correct back then. Ever since it became a PC talking, the gay culture pushed by the media is extremely politically correct, but there are still plenty of mean, gossipy, non-PC fags and girlfags lurking in the shadows. It's really no surprise we gravitate here, even though a good chunk of this site's users dislike gays.

Besides, I've found that even users who dislike us tend to leave us be. The worst I've ever gotten was a negrate and a few names. Sure, there are threads about the evils of homosexuality, but I can just not browse them. Why do we need so much censorship when we can just ignore things we don't like? That, and people are allowed to hate the gays. Hell, most gays hate the gays, including themselves!

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

Slight Powerlevel ahead.
My only friend in college moved to Japan and was silent on social media for a year. I assumed he had died from the coof, but during a random jaunt on LinkdIn I found my friend while looking at the profile of another former friend (who is a Chicom shill but that isn't relevant).
He had trooned out and looks absolutely hideous.
Maybe there are worse things than death out there.

Another victim of anime and autism. He's gonna have a shit time in Japan, that's for sure. A baka gaijin and a troon? Oof.

There's something about it that hurts extra when the person who trooned was also the first person you had serious feelings for.

I'm sorry, that must hurt a lot. Especially if you still care for them.

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

I'm going to preface this by saying it will probably be extremely long, just because there's nobody in my life I've been able to tell this story to before. People talk shit about Kiwi Farms but you guys are honestly the most open to different opinions than anywhere else online, at least in my experience. Hopefully I won't get kicked off the thread for this but I am a transgender man/FtM (diagnosed with gender dysphoria by a therapist), this is important for context.

In my senior year of high school, I met the person who I ended up having my first serious relationship with, I'll call them J. Some more background information for context: J is biologically male and a legitimate diagnosed autistic (but high functioning enough to pass as "just weird"), they probably have some other mental health problems that are undiagnosed. We're the same age, went to different high schools. When this story took place we both identified as pansexual and polyamorous.
We met online and hung out for the first time at a local park. J was funny, easy to talk to, very accepting of me, and I thought they were cute. We chatted a lot (online/over text and in person), never had any red flags except for J making more sexual jokes than the average person - I just assumed it was from a mix of autism and immaturity.
After a few weeks, we started officially dating. Everything was still pretty normal. J ended up being my date to senior prom. We rented suits from a local shop, they never objected to that or to anything traditionally masculine. That night was the first time we had sex because it's a cliche teenager thing. After that was when things first got uncomfortable. J was always making sexual jokes and trying to initiate sex - again I assumed it was autism, plus just being a horny teenage boy. I did eventually say it made me uncomfortable and J said they would try to stop, but they never did.

A few months passed, we both had graduated and were spending more time together. Two things happened pretty close together. The first was that J started (online) dating this girl, who I later found out was trans MtF. I liked her decently well, but she was very shy/needy/anxious/etc to the point where it felt like she was a literal anime trope, and she would constantly make overly sexual flirtatious jokes with J. Even when I was hanging out with J in person, they'd be messaging her.
Also around this time, but a bit later, J told me they thought they might be a trans woman. I was supportive but pretty surprised - throughout our relationship I had no reason to think J had any gender dysphoria (because they didn't). In our group chat together, J and their girlfriend would constantly be talking about their "girl cocks" and just saying very sexual things. I would just leave the conversation when this happened because there was no convincing J or their girlfriend that "girl cocks" are not a normal topic for casual discussion.
I was as supportive as I could be. I agreed to use she/her pronouns and call J my girlfriend. I did their makeup. I helped them choose a new name. I offered to look for feminine clothing with them at the thrift store or teach them to shave their legs, but they declined. They hadn't come out to their parents (and wouldn't for a long time) and they said they weren't dysphoric and the only "girl clothes" they really wanted was underwear. I loved them, but not enough to take them panty shopping.

We broke up after dating for a little over a year (for reasons unrelated to their transition) and agreed to stay friends. I was obviously hurt and didn't want to talk to them very much, especially for the first couple of months.
During our brief conversations (usually with months between them) I learned that:
-J had formed a small hive of online trans girlfriends with some convoluted web of how they were all dating/e-fucking each other
-They had started taking estrogen from a friend's prescription
-Friend was also 5+ years older, may or may not have been sexually involved with J
-J had decided they're a lesbian (despite having been attracted to me at some point, and only being interested in trans women)
-Countless new transbian girlfriends and breakups, I can't keep track
-Accidentally being outed because their mom found the estrogen pills J was illegally taking
-J had apparently realized they were trans because of me; I never knew until they told me that way after and I was a bit horrified.

After all of the drama, talking less and less often, J still making sexual jokes and flirting with me, I cut contact.

It's been a few years since we had talked and J recently reached out to me, wanting to catch up. We talked online for a little while. They're single and living a few states away but may be moving back soon. They're stopped taking estrogen (apparently this is temporary) and my general impression is that, although they haven't said it out loud, they regret transitioning or possibly realize they are not actually a trans woman.

I want to be supportive of my friend. They're lonely and depressed. I'm the catalyst for them leaning too hard into a femboy/lesbian/whatever fetish and kind of ruining their life, so I feel like I at least owe them some help. But I honestly don't know what to do or if there's even anything I can do.

 

[Shiversblood]

Wow. I guess you shouldn’t have worn a male suit to prom then. That guy was never the same since.

 

[Tsukasa Kadoya]

Another victim of anime and autism. He's gonna have a shit time in Japan, that's for sure. A baka gaijin and a troon? Oof.

The only thing going for him is he speaks fluent Japanese.
Otherwise yeah I think he's in for some shit.