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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Yep. I mean, I'm of course for human treatment of prisoners but I can bet whatever money I have left right now that Russian soldiers aren't as humane to prisoners as Ukrainians. Considering that I have testimonies of people with a two handshake connection that were beaten and tortured for 8 days and they weren't even a combatant (not to mention knowing how dnrniggers/lnrniggers operated their detention centres), I have a very biased opinion.

>No ass-rape

Have you heard about the Federal Punishment Service leaks, where there was a massive video dump from one of the prison servers, and it housed massive amounts of videos of inmates being raped by various means? I shit you not, some even have proper porn angles. Some were raped by capos, that is, specially selected faggot enforcers. Some were brutalized with brooms.
I'm not disagreeing with you about Russian brutality at all, actually. Frankly you could tell a Russian prisoner you're just going to summarily execute him for his war crimes and he'd probably bawl and sob from how merciful you're being compared to what he expected given his sins and what Russians would do to him.

And yeah, I don't know what it is, but Slavs love ass-rape. I guess when you run a country like its a prison for about a hundred years and counting, minus the small period between the fall of the USSR and Putin taking power, people just wind up massive faggots.
 
Pick your fate, Russia:

Good ending: Declare the “special military operation” was successful and start ceasefire and withdrawal for backroom sanction removal. Maybe in Negotiations get Z-man removed from power to symbolize a victory. In the chaos, liquidate a bunch of oligarchs who were trying to flee or that you couldn’t control.

Mediocre ending: Go for complete annexation of the east of the river. End up with an Iraq situation except a million times worse due to economic woes and a bunch of potato niggers who keep hitting you with cheap Javs. Try to form a partnership with China who will fuck you so hard economically that the fatherland will be nothing but Chinese overlords until the end of time.

Bad ending: “Whoops, didn’t mean to hit those polish buses. Sorry, NATO. Can we still be friends? China, India? Some help here? Hello?”
 
There's a beautiful line in one of the BBC's articles today from a Ukrainian:

Few of the Russian corpses appear to be ethnic Russians, instead they are ethnic minorities. White bands on their uniforms distinguish them from regular Russian troops. "These aren't real Russians," another Ukrainian fighter said as we passed bodies by the road.
"They don't know why they are here," he said.
For the Ukrainians, this is seen as a good thing. Ethnic-minority Russian troops have weaker allegiance to Moscow, they say. One senior Kharkiv figure told me, "We don't fear Chechens, it's the Russians in Moscow restaurants who are afraid of them."
That's a good one.
 
but Slavs love ass-rape
Look, Ukrainians are no saints but Russians specifically like sexual violence and assrape in particular. No other Slav nation has such fixation on homosex.

Ironically, neopederastic views emerged from Russian prisons but now the history is making a circle and now there's an appeal by the collective of vory v zakone to not equate victims of cops brutalizing inmates to untouchables.

The Russian prison system has had a very elaborate caste system and if not going into detail, the worst punishment one can get is to be touched with a dick, thus making you an official prison bitch. In the 60s, Brezhnev had a wonderful idea to allow inmates to serve. Over the next 60 years, through the army and incarceration, this has reached the top levels of the Russian state.
 
Look, Ukrainians are no saints but Russians specifically like sexual violence and assrape in particular. No other Slav nation has such fixation on homosex.

Ironically, neopederastic views emerged from Russian prisons but now the history is making a circle and now there's an appeal by the collective of vory v zakone to not equate victims of cops brutalizing inmates to untouchables.

The Russian prison system has had a very elaborate caste system and if not going into detail, the worst punishment one can get is to be touched with a dick, thus making you an official prison bitch. In the 60s, Brezhnev had a wonderful idea to allow inmates to serve. Over the next 60 years, through the army and incarceration, this has reached the top levels of the Russian state.
I have never seen a country fuck itself to the point even the worst troons this site documents would find it extreme and disgusting.
Bad ending: “Whoops, didn’t mean to hit those polish buses. Sorry, NATO. Can we still be friends? China, India? Some help here? Hello?”
Given the total Russian incompetence as well as the fact the Poles are chomping at the bit to finally put an end to the Muscovite Menace that is a non-zero possibility.
 

Lol, that's some weak sauce, I got packed away by Moscow cops not once, right before USSR was close to collapse, getting pummeled by batons, getting your head slammed into the floor, bones broken, hair torn out, missing teeth was SOP. I'm sure it still goes on. I have no idea how she had recording gear not confiscated, it means no one searched her and they were just going to get her info and let her go.

If Russian protestors think that's torture and police brutality, they have a long road ahead of them that I am not sure they can face.

For any kiwis, as an advice for getting arrested in Russia or another similar country, make sure to let cops know that people are looking for you and that you are some important person (even if you are not) Knowing members of press (phone numbers) is as important as remembering number of your embassy. If you are a foreigner, make sure it's known. It works so well, people have pretended to be one to avoid getting packed away. Russian rank and file cops are sadistic cowards who love to let pent up anger, but not at expense of hearing their hire ups screaming at them.
 
And yeah, I don't know what it is, but Slavs love ass-rape. I guess when you run a country like its a prison for about a hundred years and counting, minus the small period between the fall of the USSR and Putin taking power, people just wind up massive faggots.
Look, Ukrainians are no saints but Russians specifically like sexual violence and assrape in particular. No other Slav nation has such fixation on homosex.

The Russian prison system has had a very elaborate caste system and if not going into detail, the worst punishment one can get is to be touched with a dick, thus making you an official prison bitch. In the 60s, Brezhnev had a wonderful idea to allow inmates to serve. Over the next 60 years, through the army and incarceration, this has reached the top levels of the Russian state.
It's so interesting to see people who claim to be against "GLOBOHOMO" are simping for a country that fully accepted institutionalized rape in an army full of conscripts. It really goes to show how powerful modern-day meme propaganda is, when people simp for someone worse than those they claim to fight against.

"I'm against GLOBOHOMO so I will fully support Russia! The very same Russia that conscripts men into an army that forces men to undergo ass-rape!"

But then again, that's probably due to the fact that many of these online simps are low-IQ people that are easily swayed by the likes of Jack Posobiec and other low-IQ right-wing grifters. This is simply separating the wheat from the chaff; we see which ones are truly interested in keeping civilization alive, and which ones are just brainless trolls.
 
Hot take: even if U.S. & NATO troops landed in Ukraine to push Russian forces back, Putin still wouldn't hit the nuke button.
"Once the genie gets put out of the bottle, you can't put it back in" - I wanna believe that Russia knows this concept all too well and even the most POWERFUL BRILLIANT POLITICANS know that in nuclear winter, your money and titles mean nothing to the man owning a gun.
 
Look, Ukrainians are no saints but Russians specifically like sexual violence and assrape in particular. No other Slav nation has such fixation on homosex.

Ironically, neopederastic views emerged from Russian prisons but now the history is making a circle and now there's an appeal by the collective of vory v zakone to not equate victims of cops brutalizing inmates to untouchables.

The Russian prison system has had a very elaborate caste system and if not going into detail, the worst punishment one can get is to be touched with a dick, thus making you an official prison bitch. In the 60s, Brezhnev had a wonderful idea to allow inmates to serve. Over the next 60 years, through the army and incarceration, this has reached the top levels of the Russian state.
Tell me this man isn't a pederast
 
Hot take: even if U.S. & NATO troops landed in Ukraine to push Russian forces back, Putin still wouldn't hit the nuke button.
You're probably right. But there's a lot of space between "probably" and "definitely", and the consequences for being wrong are rather extreme in this case.
 
You're probably right. But there's a lot of space between "probably" and "definitely", and the consequences for being wrong are rather extreme in this case.
If Putin were rational (yes, very, very big if there) establishing some sort of totally-not-interventionary "peacekeeping" force in the Western half as a blunt reminder to Putin that he's stepped over a major line here would probably work out okay. But since Putin isn't rational, gambling on the decisions of an increasingly unhinged man is a great way to ensure a nuclear winter.
 
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Russian brigade commander killed by his own forces​

Russian colonel is believed to have been deliberately run over by his troops, Western officials say.
The colonel was run over by an armored vehicle and suffered grave injuries to both legs | Mladen Antonov/AFP via Getty Images

BY CRISTINA GALLARDO
March 25, 2022 6:19 pm

LONDON — A Russian brigade commander has been killed by his own forces in another indication of boiling discontent among Russian forces deployed in and around Ukraine, Western officials said.
The colonel, commander of the 37th Motor Rifle Brigade, was run over by an armored vehicle and suffered grave injuries to both legs.

“The brigade commander was killed by his own troops, we believe, as a consequence of the scale of losses that have been taken by his brigade,” one official said. “We believe that he was killed by his own troops deliberately. We believe that he was run over by his own troops.”

The confirmation followed a Facebook post on Wednesday by prominent Ukrainian journalist and YouTuber Roman Tsimbalyuk, who said that troops had been angered by the 50 percent casualty rate suffered by the unit deployed to the Kyiv region. One soldier driving an armored vehicle deliberately ran over the commander, who was shown in video posts being taken on a stretcher for treatment to neighboring Belarus. He was later reported to have died.

The Western official also confirmed Ukrainian reports that a lieutenant general commanding the 49th Combined Arms Army had died in the fighting, making him the seventh Russian general to be killed in combat since the invasion began.

Ukrainian presidential spokesman Oleksiy Arestovych earlier named the lieutenant general as Yakov Ryazantsev, and said he had been killed at the Chernobaevka aerodrome outside the southern city of Kherson — where Russian forces have repeatedly suffered losses in their campaign to break out from the Crimean peninsula to the northwest.

Russian forces have struggled with logistics supply and shortages of food during the first month of their invasion of Ukraine. Soldiers taken prisoner by Ukrainian forces have told their captors they had been made to believe they would carry out exercises near the border of Ukraine, rather than engage in war.
Russia’s defense ministry said earlier that the first phase of its military operation in Ukraine was mostly complete and it would focus on completely “liberating” eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.
The Western official said Russia “is recognizing that it cannot pursue its operations on multiple axes simultaneously” and is trying to concentrate its forces, both in terms of logistics supply and firepower, on a more limited number of approaches.

At the beginning of the war, the West estimated Russia had between 120-150 battalion tactical groups deployed around Ukraine, but about 20 of those are now no longer believed to be combat effective. Some are being pulled back into Russia for maintenance or repair; others have suffered heavy losses, and in some cases merged with other groups to form one, the Western official said.

The Russians appear to have paused operations in Kyiv and other areas, to limit the amount of logistics supply that would be required there, and are keeping forces in these areas in defensive positions, with the aim of providing the maximum effort that they can in the Donbas region, the same official added.

Focussing on the Donbas would allow Russia to concentrate air forces and indirect fire into more limited areas, making it tougher for the Ukrainians, who had been “remarkably adept” at using air defense capabilities, the official said. Recent Ukrainian victories on the ground cannot be considered a “turning of the tide” yet, they added.
 
Hot take: even if U.S. & NATO troops landed in Ukraine to push Russian forces back, Putin still wouldn't hit the nuke button.
I'm increasingly skeptical that Putin would ever go for the nuclear option since it'd mean he couldn't escalate the conflict anymore. Part of what keeps other nations from getting more involved than they already have is there's the fear it could go there, if Putin actually actually does go nuclear then no one has any reason to hold back and Putin has zero allies that would come along to his defense.
 

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Russian brigade commander killed by his own forces​

Russian colonel is believed to have been deliberately run over by his troops, Western officials say.
The colonel was run over by an armored vehicle and suffered grave injuries to both legs | Mladen Antonov/AFP via Getty Images

BY CRISTINA GALLARDO
March 25, 2022 6:19 pm

LONDON — A Russian brigade commander has been killed by his own forces in another indication of boiling discontent among Russian forces deployed in and around Ukraine, Western officials said.
The colonel, commander of the 37th Motor Rifle Brigade, was run over by an armored vehicle and suffered grave injuries to both legs.

“The brigade commander was killed by his own troops, we believe, as a consequence of the scale of losses that have been taken by his brigade,” one official said. “We believe that he was killed by his own troops deliberately. We believe that he was run over by his own troops.”

The confirmation followed a Facebook post on Wednesday by prominent Ukrainian journalist and YouTuber Roman Tsimbalyuk, who said that troops had been angered by the 50 percent casualty rate suffered by the unit deployed to the Kyiv region. One soldier driving an armored vehicle deliberately ran over the commander, who was shown in video posts being taken on a stretcher for treatment to neighboring Belarus. He was later reported to have died.

The Western official also confirmed Ukrainian reports that a lieutenant general commanding the 49th Combined Arms Army had died in the fighting, making him the seventh Russian general to be killed in combat since the invasion began.

Ukrainian presidential spokesman Oleksiy Arestovych earlier named the lieutenant general as Yakov Ryazantsev, and said he had been killed at the Chernobaevka aerodrome outside the southern city of Kherson — where Russian forces have repeatedly suffered losses in their campaign to break out from the Crimean peninsula to the northwest.

Russian forces have struggled with logistics supply and shortages of food during the first month of their invasion of Ukraine. Soldiers taken prisoner by Ukrainian forces have told their captors they had been made to believe they would carry out exercises near the border of Ukraine, rather than engage in war.
Russia’s defense ministry said earlier that the first phase of its military operation in Ukraine was mostly complete and it would focus on completely “liberating” eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.
The Western official said Russia “is recognizing that it cannot pursue its operations on multiple axes simultaneously” and is trying to concentrate its forces, both in terms of logistics supply and firepower, on a more limited number of approaches.

At the beginning of the war, the West estimated Russia had between 120-150 battalion tactical groups deployed around Ukraine, but about 20 of those are now no longer believed to be combat effective. Some are being pulled back into Russia for maintenance or repair; others have suffered heavy losses, and in some cases merged with other groups to form one, the Western official said.

The Russians appear to have paused operations in Kyiv and other areas, to limit the amount of logistics supply that would be required there, and are keeping forces in these areas in defensive positions, with the aim of providing the maximum effort that they can in the Donbas region, the same official added.

Focussing on the Donbas would allow Russia to concentrate air forces and indirect fire into more limited areas, making it tougher for the Ukrainians, who had been “remarkably adept” at using air defense capabilities, the official said. Recent Ukrainian victories on the ground cannot be considered a “turning of the tide” yet, they added.

"I Want to Believe".
Hot take: even if U.S. & NATO troops landed in Ukraine to push Russian forces back, Putin still wouldn't hit the nuke button.
At this juncture, respectfully, I disagree with you. I think he'd use it as an excuse to hit those bases in Eastern Poland with tac nuke strikes. He said the installation of ABM-capable Patriot batteries in Poland was nuclear escalation (this was back during Obongo's administration, mind, but that was still the Russian view on it).
 
I'm increasingly skeptical that Putin would ever go for the nuclear option since it'd mean he couldn't escalate the conflict anymore. Part of what keeps other nations from getting more involved than they already have is there's the fear it could go there, if Putin actually actually does go nuclear then no one has any reason to hold back and Putin has zero allies that would come along to his defense.
I disagree, I legitimately think he is unhinged enough to do it just because "Fuck it" he doesn't have a scenario where he get's a nice big W, it's just Ls of varying shapes and sizes.

This isn't a man who would be content to step down and lead from behind the curtain, if he was that kinda guy, he would have been doing that already instead of changing the constitution so he can be a Foreverprezidente, either he wins and everyone says that he did or he's going to make sure everyone else loses also, that geriatric fuck has an ego so big that the whole of Russia isn't enough to make him content.

I'm of the opinion that the only way this shit doesn't devolve into WW3 is if Putin get's AT LEAST all of Eastern Ukraine without any conditions and has all of Europe apologize to him personally for fucking with his "Special Operation" or he dies before one starts.
 
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