Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[JambledUpWords]

maybe all the stupid ones got themselves killed already.

Better if they did. Stupidity can be even more dangerous than being malicious. For the ones that already did get themselves killed from that, I hope they’re enjoying their Darwin Award.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

or maybe all the stupid ones got themselves killed already.

Good guy Russia, helping increase Ukraine's average IQ.

 

[Rezza]

One thing I've gleamed from looking through the more heavily slanted Pro-Russia accounts on Twitter the past few days, it's starting to become more and more popular that anything less than the complete and utter destruction of Ukraine as a nation will be defeat to them, it's kinda of hilarious how they still think that's practical at this point.

Lmfao, Redditors canceling all sources of alternate info, even though I don't like his takes (he said that the 1,600 Russian fatalies vs 14,000 Ukrainian fatalities was a "realistic number" so he's pretty delusional in some cases) I at least welcome him reporting on news that hurts Ukraine.

That's because just as in the Kamil thread you shared (I think), even if Russia made a peace treaty with Ukraine, Russia as a state is already fucked. Only the complete annihilation of Ukraine as a country can be considered as a "gain", even then it's already a small "gain" at this point

Even if the sanctions are revoked, no one in the west is going to buy their resources and commodities anymore, especially the west. Where else are they going to sell it to? Asia and Africa's trade ability pales in comparison to US and Europe combined, and Asian and African countries would chose instead to buy things from countries closer to them than Russia, especially resources. And no one would export their stuffs to Russia because their economy and currency are fucked. They can't buy, they can't sell

Their military that have been mythicised for decades have been ridiculed in the global stage, no one will fear them militarily anymore. The only thing they have left are nukes, but everyone knew you can't use it unless you want to paint a massive target on your back, so one would actually entertain their threat. Even China is most likey going to surpass them as the PLA reform themselves

So instead of stopping the slow decline of Russia, Putin have instead accelerated it by a massive degree. Russia is finished, and only the complete destruction of Ukraine in this war can soften their demise

 

[Aidan]

Prove it.

I can't find the clips that were posted that shows blackboards and stuff but here's an older post of Azov guys in the basement of what is presumably a separate school. The clip I'm thinking of is a recording of some guys lying down in a classroom. If I remember to, I will @ you when I download them. I intend to write a script to scrape both invasion threads and download all the media posted in them.

Here's a post showing some non-Azov Ukrainians are using schools as well.

Contradiction?

No. The claim is that Russia shelled humanitarian corridors after telling civilians to use them. There are some claims in Syria that Russians/Syrians (it seems to vary) would shell the city when it was supposed to be a ceasefire to allow for the corridor to be used. However, considering 3 million people took those corridors and ended up corralled into Idlib, it's obvious that wasn't the norm if it did happen. To be clear, I don't even doubt it happened, it just sounds like it was rare and who knows why it happened.

Source? I've never heard of the U.S. just straight up labeling everyone inside a city an enemy combatant by default. There were plenty of old folks who literally couldn't leave.

"The flyers let them know we were getting ready to start bombing the city, (and) anyone who stayed we assumed was an insurgent," Willingham said. Source
I just grabbed the first thing I opened, but it's pretty well known.

Also not sure why you keep using Syria as a reference for the supposedly "clean" Russian army when there are claims of airstrikes on civilian targets by Russian aircraft in that conflict as well. The U.S., by contrast, was so overly concerned about rules of engagement that they avoided destroying mosques (which insurgents took advantage of) because of their religious significance, which was above and beyond the call, but it goes to show how careful an actual professional army can be if they need to.

I never said it was clean, I'm saying they're consistent in their type of brutality.
Russia is predictable and if Syria is any indication then a lot of the media claims are nonsense. They're often effectively unsourced and on par with "anonymous sources say..." when this is one of the most documented wars to date, as so many in the front have phones and internet access.

 

[Strayserval]

Okay day 31 of the war, I keep seeing that Russia is changing plans to securing the Donbas region ( not really confirmed just lots of talk on the western side ).
does anyone else have some news on this?

 

[Aidan]

Okay day 31 of the war, I keep seeing that Russia is changing plans to securing the Donbas region ( not really confirmed just lots of talk on the western side ).
does anyone else have some news on this?

Day 31 of the war, 31 days of no one knowing the victory conditions for Russia.
Going off of memory, Putin initially said it was to recognize the DPR and LNR as independent and denazify Ukraine, whatever that means.

There's been a murmur ever since Russia declared Phase 1 complete; that they've shifted the goals but I think only very high up Russians know what the real goals are.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

There's been a murmur ever since Russia declared Phase 1 complete; that they've shifted the goals but I think only very high up Russians know what the real goals are.

Nonsense, we all know the russian goals: aquire hooch. Their advance will continue when they have stripped their occupied territory of booze.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

That's because just as in the Kamil thread you shared (I think), even if Russia made a peace treaty with Ukraine, Russia as a state is already fucked. Only the complete annihilation of Ukraine as a country can be considered as a "gain", even then it's already a small "gain" at this point

Even if the sanctions are revoked, no one in the west is going to buy their resources and commodities anymore, especially the west. Where else are they going to sell it to? Asia and Africa's trade ability pales in comparison to US and Europe combined, and Asian and African countries would chose instead to buy things from countries closer to them than Russia, especially resources. And no one would export their stuffs to Russia because their economy and currency are fucked. They can't buy, they can't sell

Their military that have been mythicised for decades have been ridiculed in the global stage, no one will fear them militarily anymore. The only thing they have left are nukes, but everyone knew you can't use it unless you want to paint a massive target on your back, so one would actually entertain their threat. Even China is most likey going to surpass them as the PLA reform themselves

So instead of stopping the slow decline of Russia, Putin have instead accelerated it by a massive degree. Russia is finished, and only the complete destruction of Ukraine in this war can soften their demise

It will be hilarious down the line to see them complain about being done as a serious country. Russia's only allies with any actual geopolitical relevance will be China, which will turn them into a vessel state which gives them dirt cheap gas and oil that Russia gives them for pennies on the dollar, and India, which will be more of a friends with benefits type situation and Russia might not be able to relay on if they turn Ukraine into a crater.

Putin played his hand at a decapitation strike, it almost worked, the first few sanctions were pretty half hearted. But because the blitzkrieg failed, the media did it's thing and turned Russia into a pariah state.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Okay day 31 of the war, I keep seeing that Russia is changing plans to securing the Donbas region ( not really confirmed just lots of talk on the western side ).
does anyone else have some news on this?

It got posted somewhere in here in the last day. In short, Russia has declared that their "phase 1" objectives are complete, despite nobody having any clue what those could possibly be, since Russia has secured all of 1 major city (and is currently in the process of losing it again, maybe) and the Ukrainian army is still very much on the field. Thus, Russia claims it is now moving to complete the liberation of the breakaway states. The two-pronged push on Kiev that turned into a 3-pronged push when they rerouted the entire Sumy axis to beeline that way was in fact a clever ruse, it's not like they actually wanted to take it or anything, b-baka.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

It will be hilarious down the line to see them complain about being done as a serious country. Russia's only allies with any actual geopolitical relevance will be China, which will turn them into a vessel state which gives them dirt cheap gas and oil that Russia gives them for pennies on the dollar, and India, which will be more of a friends with benefits type situation and Russia might not be able to relay on if they turn Ukraine into a crater.

Putin played his hand at a decapitation strike, it almost worked, the first few sanctions were pretty half hearted. But because the blitzkrieg failed, the media did it's thing and turned Russia into a pariah state.

Don't be too quick to count the Russians out long term. Yes, they have some serious problems, but they have very serious potential. Look at all the times in history where Russia was lagging behind the rest of Europe, only to very nearly catch up in a generation or so.

 

[Aidan]

It will be hilarious down the line to see them complain about being done as a serious country. Russia's only allies with any actual geopolitical relevance will be China, which will turn them into a vessel state which gives them dirt cheap gas and oil that Russia gives them for pennies on the dollar, and India, which will be more of a friends with benefits type situation and Russia might not be able to relay on if they turn Ukraine into a crater.

How is this any different from before the invasion?

 

[Rezza]

Don't be too quick to count the Russians out long term. Yes, they have some serious problems, but they have very serious potential. Look at all the times in history where Russia was lagging behind the rest of Europe, only to very nearly catch up in a generation or so.

Yeah, but that requires a period of "Dark Age" for them first before catching up to the world

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Yeah, but that requires a period of "Dark Age" for them first before catching up to the world

Honestly, that's been the last 30 years for them since the fall of the soviet union. Even if the transition had gone flawlessly, Russia would still have lost significant chunks of its critical industries, just because of how it was spread out between the various soviet republics that became countries.

 

[just a banana]

Nonsense, we all know the russian goals: aquire hooch. Their advance will continue when they have stripped their occupied territory of booze.

Well, they have to do something about this kind of thing...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38363441

 

[Wy4M]

Shooting someone in the leg...

 

[Titos]

Well, they have to do something about this kind of thing...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38363441

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Come on you dumb fuck Russians, we all know the best way to get drunk if you don't have booze is to drink turpentine. I know you vodka monkeys have never had a good navy but you think you would have learned this throughout the years.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Yeah, but that requires a period of "Dark Age" for them first before catching up to the world

Russia is basically the RPG character with an 8/10 in every stat but a 1 in luck. They're scarily potent and would probably have ruled the world if the Germans and Anglos didn't kneecap them so much.

 

[Corette]

Day 31 of the war,

Ukraine has 74 days to go to beat Finnish score from Winter War.
Jap performance back from 1904-1905 is probably unbeatable, but we must remember that there has been few rule changes since then in game.

 

[kuuu]

No one takes a city without killing innocent people in terrible ways.

Crimea, but you know it.

Bullshit.

"At the end of December 2017, the Russian defence minister said that the Russian military had eliminated several thousand terrorists while 48,000 Russian service-members had ″gained combat experience″ during the Russian operation in Syria." English page.
"боевой опыт за всё время проведения военной операции получило более 63 000 российских военнослужащих" Russian page.

Oh I still think the Ukes are the good guys in all of this. They didn't create the circumstances they're currently mired in.

Yeah, they did. When they came to purge Russians in the East disagreeing with Kiev coup. World didn't care then, nor does it care now.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Russia is basically the RPG character with an 8/10 in every stat but a 1 in luck. They're scarily potent and would probably have ruled the world if the Germans and Anglos didn't kneecap them so much.

Their own leaders kneecap them just as much half of the time. It's the downside of a culture that favors a strong, authoritarian leader. Sometimes it works out really well, but just as often you end up with a dogshit leader.