War Invasion of Ukraine News Megathread - Thread is only for articles and discussion of articles, general discussion thread is still in Happenings.

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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Hmm... what a shame Russia appears to be quite short on PGM's and their aircraft keep getting shot down. Looks like trench warfare's back on the menu, boys!
Odd as it sounds for matching trench uniforms at least for the coastal fortifications, U.S. Army uniforms circa post ACW to pre WWI would be the better choice. If only because that branch of the Army had almost unlimited budget to build and train with.
 
I pity Russiaboos.
The military has shown itself to be incompetent and Putin a sped.
I remember during the first week we were hearing about the great Russian blyatzkrieg which then turned into how the German invasion of Poland and the US invasion of Iraq took a month so give Russia a break, they're working on it. Over a month later and they still haven't even taken Mariupol and that's looking like a lot of cope, even if Russia grinds down Ukraine at this point (and at this point that's looking more and like if rather than when) it's going to be Winter War 2.0 where while Russia achieved some cope, goalpost-shifted 'win' it looks like a humiliating embarrassment to just about everyone else.
 
I pity Russiaboos.
The military has shown itself to be incompetent and Putin a sped.
No, they will cope until Russia is utterly defeated and are forcibly pushed back into Russia.

Even then I'm not sure that'll be enough to break the programming.
 
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This is proof to you? Some guy saying what another guy (me) said is bullshit and then linking an article from the same publication for context?
I think you want it to be proof and I'll let it go but it's on par with me just saying "nuh uh" and linking another dailymail article on the topic.
Yes. Because the article is more trustworthy than some random "nuh-uhs" on the internet.

I'm saying Ukraine is corrupt now. It is and has been notoriously corrupt. Their corruption ties right into US (and others') politics. No one can reasonably argue that Ukraine is not corrupt and I don't know why you would.
Yes, but do you have any solid evidence? At most, it just seems like standard third-world corruption, which probably explains why Ukraine wants to be part of the EU so badly. Russia's corruption is far worse than that.

It's not a case of them both being corrupt. Russia's corruption is so bad, industrious Russians leave the country to start businesses elsewhere, because of Russian oligarchs monopolizing entire sectors of business and using either the mob or the state to enforce their monopolies. Russian men are being conscripted into an army where they are sexually abused and tortured, and maintenance of military vehicles is sabotaged due to some yahoos wanting extra cash. In fact, part of the reason Ukraine swerved from being a Russia-style mafia state to a wannabe western-style government is because they didn't want to go down the same route as Russia, where at best, Russia is a kleptocracy where the rich plunder the country and leave the poor to rot, at worst, it's a literal Ork army that runs on sodomy, where the conscripted lower ranks are sexually abused and tortured into becoming obedient slaves, and when they grow older, they do the same to the next generation's conscripts.

Yes and this has nothing to do with Russia or its corruption. I even said I don't trust the separatists which I think implies I don't trust their backers, the Russian government or as I like to call him, Vladimir Putin.
The whole war has everything to do with Russian corruption. The new government that came to power wanting to join the EU and NATO was due to the fact that they wanted to get away from the style of government that is similar to Russia and is easily controlled by the Kremlin as a vassal state like Belarus.

Dailymail is trash but I called it that because one of your buddies who you agree with 100% on insulted my use of it. Since I need to break everything down very, very clearly, he was calling Dailymail trash as well. At this point I don't think you actually read everything you reply and react to.
Again, your whining about how the Ukrainians shelled civilian areas too has almost no proof outside of something that even the "trash" publications can easily disprove. Not to mention that, again, that earlier conflict was started by Russia backing separatists against Ukraine, so again, this is Russia's fault.

I'm talking about the war NOW. As in, the war between Russia and Ukraine in the Year of Our Lord, 2022. Ukraine conducted a strike against Russia back in February. Ukrainian troops launched a Tochka-U missile aimed at the Russian military airfield located in the city of Millerovo, Rostov Oblast.
Why am I not surprised that this chick fights for Putin?

I pity Russiaboos.
The military has shown itself to be incompetent and Putin a sped.
That's all we can give them, pity. I mean, they pretend to be traditionalists for Western Civilization, yet they simp for a guy whose friends are squeezing the Russian economy dry, and whose government conscripts Russian men into an army where they are sexually abused and tortured into becoming brainless peons of the state. I suppose if it's Pagan Roman traditionalism they're going for, these Russiaboos have it right 100%, where Rome had rich patricians dominating the economy and the government, and it was A-OK for older men to violate younger men, and those younger men in turn violate their juniors when they come of age.

I remember during the first week we were hearing about the great Russian blyatzkrieg which then turned into how the German invasion of Poland and the US invasion of Iraq took a month so give Russia a break, they're working on it. Over a month later and they still haven't even taken Mariupol and that's looking like a lot of cope, even if Russia grinds down Ukraine at this point (and at this point that's looking more and like if rather than when) it's going to be Winter War 2.0 where while Russia achieved some cope, goalpost-shifted 'win' it looks like a humiliating embarrassment to just about everyone else.
That's happening right now. That's why they stated that they no longer wish to de-Nazify Ukraine. They've lost so much in terms of tanks, air power, and men, that the best they can do is stalemate the Ukrainians, nothing else.

Smuggling Nazi uniforms into Ukraine to frame them as Neo-Nazis is such a dirty cop move, planting drugs on a law abiding citizen to have an excuse to throw them into the clink. It almost makes me think that all the Nazi hysteria from Anti-Fag these passed ten years came straight outta Moscow. Poisoning public education is a total USSR move, after all, and what do we know Putin is nostalgic for?
That's something that should be remembered. All these right-wing freaks who simp for Putin, simp for a man who would have happily sent them all to the gulag half a century ago.

lol no. I'm normally pretty neutral towards Biden but I thought he did the right thing by mocking Putin and calling him a butcher. I'm tired of appeasing this faggot. Appeasing Putin will never work because he views it as weakness and it tells him that he can do whatever he wants with no international pushback. I barely consider him better than Hitler in that regard. Bowing down to the will of dictators is what got us dragged into WW2

There shouldn't be any apprehension letting Putin know that he's human pondscum and that the world is better off without him. In a bout of autistic frustration he threatened the entire world at nuke point. I hope our politicians slap him around like a filthy dishrag. He won't do shit

I agree with the rest of your post though
For me, the best outcome would be Putin forced out of power-permanently. Maybe he can be sent to Mount Athos, and he can paint icons of Jesus Christ and Mother Mary for the rest of his miserable life, as penance for his sins. But that's just me thinking.
 
That's something that should be remembered. All these right-wing freaks who simp for Putin, simp for a man who would have happily sent them all to the gulag half a century ago.
Right wing would imply they're individualist, capitalist & libertarian.

These people are distinctly left wing, collectivist, communist & authoritarian.

If they claim to be right wing then they're either lying or self-unaware.
 
Right wing would imply they're individualist, capitalist & libertarian.

These people are distinctly left wing, collectivist, communist & authoritarian.

If they claim to be right wing then they're either lying or self-unaware.
They're self-unaware. Many of these people support capitalism, libertarianism, and individualist causes-in the West. The moment Russia is brought up, though, they turn into loyal servitors simping for their God-Emperor, Vladimir Putin.

It's so amazing to see many so-called "freedom-lovers" get pissy with the US government over being too big, yet they simp for Putin, whose government is the kind of dystopia that would make absolute monarchies look like libertarian paradises.
 
They're self-unaware. Many of these people support capitalism, libertarianism, and individualist causes-in the West. The moment Russia is brought up, though, they turn into loyal servitors simping for their God-Emperor, Vladimir Putin.

It's so amazing to see many so-called "freedom-lovers" get pissy with the US government over being too big, yet they simp for Putin, whose government is the kind of dystopia that would make absolute monarchies look like libertarian paradises.
I think they're self aware but don't want to straight up admit they want a dictatorship but they want it their way. Over the past few years I've come to a fairly obvious conclusion that left and right wingers are two sides of the same coin. Both will bitch and moan about being censored, denied freedom, denied this, denied that blah blah blah until they squeeze their way into positions of power at which point they go against everything they say they believed in like individualism, freedom, free speech, whatever, leftists were for all theese things until they became culturally dominant and now right wingers are all for it until they get the power to take it away from others.

When one is dominant the other plays the victim, vice versa, ad infinitum. Both want collectivism and dictatorship but they want it their way, hell, right wingers want socialism too but they want it for their in-group only.

Also anyone who is bitching about Globohomo and Jews running the show in Ukraine should check out where majority of Russian oligarchs fled to and have a deep thunk on the implications of their destination considering they're some of the most powerful people in Russia, Putin is himself rich beyond American Capitalist Rich-Worshipper comprehension too.
 
I think they're self aware but don't want to straight up admit they want a dictatorship but they want it their way. Over the past few years I've come to a fairly obvious conclusion that left and right wingers are two sides of the same coin. Both will bitch and moan about being censored, denied freedom, denied this, denied that blah blah blah until they squeeze their way into positions of power at which point they go against everything they say they believed in like individualism, freedom, free speech, whatever, leftists were for all these things until they became culturally dominant and now right wingers are all for it until they get the power to take it away from others.
Basically, yes. The fact that right-wingers support a guy who basically rules Russia as an absolute dictator means that all their talk about keeping America from sliding into tyranny is bunk. Whatever party gets the majority, rules with an iron fist, and whatever party is the minority, advocates for freedom, individualism, free speech, until they take over and start banning everything that isn't kosher to their side.

When one is dominant the other plays the victim, vice versa, ad infinitum. Both want collectivism and dictatorship but they want it their way, hell, right wingers want socialism too but they want it for their in-group only.
Basically, yes. That seems to be why they're very much OK with sympathizing for Russian leaders who have a boner for the old USSR, so long as they piss off the Left.

Also anyone who is bitching about Globohomo and Jews running the show in Ukraine should check out where majority of Russian oligarchs fled to and have a deep thunk on the implications of their destination considering they're some of the most powerful people in Russia, Putin is himself rich beyond American Capitalist Rich-Worshipper comprehension too.
Exactly. People whine about Zelensky having million-dollar mansions, but that's chump change compared to what Putin gives himself.

Tell me if any of this seems familiar? Like where have we heard this story before?
It also really drives home just how much of a discount dollar store Stalin Putin actually is.
He who does not learn from history is doomed to repeat it.

Here are some videos on the war that are rather educational:



 
That last video, "End of the Tank?" reminded me of The Chieftain's video on some Ukraine stuff. He's a US tank commander currently in the National Guard and also a professional tank historian so knows a good bit on the topic.
Worth a watch for some added context but regarding the "End of the Tank?" question, which he addresses, the answer is "No." His video was uploaded a week ago (Mar 23)


Here's my post from the Happenings thread that has a text summary for those who prefer to read.
Good stuff, if anyone needs a reason to watch it, he's a genuine US tanker (now in the National Guard) and professional tank historian.

Summary below because I know I rarely have time for videos in this thread and appreciate QRDs.

My personal take on the video is that The Chieftain is politely saying Ukraine is getting its ass kicked and there's a lot they're just not saying. Yes Russia is being retarded, but not as retarded as the clips seem to imply. Obviously Ukrainians aren't going to upload themselves getting wrecked and propaganda is expected but if they don't push back with their own armor then they're going to lose ground, slowly or otherwise.

If you can only watch part of it I've timestamped the breakdown in the embed below. (6:30 into the video)

Roughly chronological
  • No, tanks are not obsolete.
    • No, drones don't win wars. Maneuvering ground forces do
  • Yes, Russia has shown a lot of ineptitude
  • Combined arms is a tank's best defense since always
  • The clips on social media for this conflict are not effective measures of anything
    • Ukrainian clips uploaded are going to be edited in Ukraine's favor
    • Ukrainians won't upload clips of failures
    • We're largely missing the Russian perspective
      • Even when there is footage from their side, it stays mostly in Telegram channels
  • Tank-kill videos tend to be selectively edited
  • Primary example is from this video
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    • Breakdown
      • Ukes hit tank
      • Tank not instantly killed
        • Does right thing by driving out of the fight (driver stayed in)
      • IFV does the right thing by scramming while spamming autocannon (crosses the road)
      • Rear tanks do right thing by positioning towards Ukes and lighting them up
      • The tank hit was not knocked out until the Ukrainians were dead and it appears no Russians actually died
  • Another video of a seemingly lone tank gets hit
    • hit 1 and video cuts
    • hit 2 tank is tracked (broken track) and video cut but not before tank turns towards target (still in the fight)
    • hit 3 tank gets penetrated as evidence by smoke coming out of the barrel, implying the breech was open. implying the russians shot a round (never seen in clips)
    • Explosion cooks off or something, knocking out tank
    • So much context missing, this video is useless
      • A lot more isn't said than is said by the way it's edited
  • An IFV missing a wheel and hubs was either abandoned or undergoing improper field maintenance in his opinion
  • Cope Cages
    • Chieftain says he appreciates "emotional support armor"
    • He hasn't seen a top-attack video against any cope-cagey tanks
    • Interesting lack of active defense systems on the tanks
      • Possible that the tanks with modern active defense aren't shared online by Ukes because it's not good footage when the attack fails
  • Azov BTR footage (where Azov rolls around and shoots a T-72 in the side)
    • Unclear why the tank is in that position
    • Possible the tank was killing something else when it got ran up on
  • OPSEC is not great
    • Uses example of Russian "kamikaze" drone being posted with a Ukrainian saying the fuses are bad
    • Recommends not telling the enemy when their equipment is malfunctioning
  • War crime stuff
    • Not everything bad is a warcrime
      • Russians using thermobaric bomb, blowing up a school, and blowing up a shopping mall cited
      • Not a war crime if done for legitimate military reasons within laws of land warfare
    • Can argue filming Russian POWs is a war crime
  • Ukrainian critique
    • "Where are the large Ukrainian maneuver units?"
    • Defense doesn't win wars, Ukraine has to switch to offense (he adds he's aware of recent reports of counter-offenses)
    • He knows Ukraine has large mechanized brigades
      • He knows they are using them but isn't sure how
      • These brigades have lost ~2 battalions of T-64s
        • Were they destroyed due to Russian offense or lost when counter-attacking? (Rhetorical for now)

Overall conclusion - The stuff we're seeing raises a lot of questions without giving many answers.


Oh bugger, the tank is on fire. starts clock
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Tell me if any of this seems familiar? Like where have we heard this story before?
It also really drives home just how much of a discount dollar store Stalin Putin actually is.
This mirrors Ukraine to a T, which leaves two things as a curiosity.

1) That the alleged Finish attack on Mainila was actually a false flag committed by Stalin on his own people to justify an invasion to retake a country that belonged to the previous Tsarist regime.

2) That the conflict ended with Russia humiliating themselves thoroughly on the bayonets of Finland & walking away with a Pyrrhic victory that was negotiated in private in which they gained a tiny slice of a country they privately wanted in whole but publicly wanted less of in their original demands.

The first is curious because the claims that Ukraine shelled Russia first and did so for years is contested, and if the Russo-Ukrainian war really is a mirror of the Russo-Finnish war, and the similarities are uncanny down to Russia losing tanks to the Finns, then it would logically follow that these Ukrainian shell attacks on Russia prior to the war were indeed false flags. I realize I'm operating on crystal ball "history repeats" logic but this looks like it's straight out of Stalin's playbook.

The second I mentioned because that's likely how this war will realistically end, in the most boring and disappointing way possible for all sides in which Ukraine is forced to surrender portions of their own land to a Russia that wanted the whole country and obviously so. My preferred ending would be if the Russian tanks simply ran out of fuel and the Russians had to walk home because the idea of a fuel exporter failing to deliver gasoline to their own war vehicles is fucking hilarious.

More hilarious but far less realistic is if Ukraine manages to push the Russian invasion force back so hard they end up taking Moscow, holding it and drawing a new border around it.
 
It's been a really interesting war from the perspective of military history. Seeing Russia's initial ambitious, highly mobile, plan fail and their change of tactics to a much slower war is interesting as it shows how the nature of modern warfare has changed. While mechanized infantry is still going to be a thing in modern armies, it really shows that you cant just blitzkrieg a well armed and motivated opponent.

Russia really needs to invest more resources in infantry patrols to clear and secure its areas of operation. This war also shows that an army cant just ignore pockets of resistance behind it's lines. The pockets resistance to the east of Kiev, behind the Russian advance, seem to really be causing major issues to Russian supply lines. At this point Russia would be better off retreating to defensible positions and trying a slower much more careful offensive when their units are reorganized and resupplied.
 
The first is curious because the claims that Ukraine shelled Russia first and did so for years is contested, and if the Russo-Ukrainian war really is a mirror of the Russo-Finnish war, and the similarities are uncanny down to Russia losing tanks to the Finns, then it would logically follow that these Ukrainian shell attacks on Russia prior to the war were indeed false flags. I realize I'm operating on crystal ball "history repeats" logic but this looks like it's straight out of Stalin's playbook.
It's been a really interesting war from the perspective of military history. Seeing Russia's initial ambitious, highly mobile, plan fail and their change of tactics to a much slower war is interesting as it shows how the nature of modern warfare has changed. While mechanized infantry is still going to be a thing in modern armies, it really shows that you cant just blitzkrieg a well armed and motivated opponent.

Russia really needs to invest more resources in infantry patrols to clear and secure its areas of operation. This war also shows that an army cant just ignore pockets of resistance behind it's lines. The pockets resistance to the east of Kiev, behind the Russian advance, seem to really be causing major issues to Russian supply lines. At this point Russia would be better off retreating to defensible positions and trying a slower much more careful offensive when their units are reorganized and resupplied.
Imo it's fairly obvious nobody has been writing any new handbooks since Stalin, they managed to steal a North Korean memo about threatening everyone with nukes so, some progress was made.

Also Russia didn't ignore pockets of resistance being a potential threat, Russia straight up assumed resistance is not going to exist, eastern Ukraine is mostly Russian speaking folk, Russians have seen everyone who can say "сука блять" as a Russian Loyalist for centuries at this point and based their chances for military successes in given regions based on how many Russian speaking people are there.

Edit: I read recently that baltic states are concerned that their Russian minorities are going to be used as an excuse for invasion just like Lugansk and Donbas, hell, I can seeit already "Special Military Operation has caused russophobia in your nation, we will denazify and liberate our suffering people from your corrupt western russophobic government" Russians are becoming the new Jews/Niggers/Trannies with their "you're just phobic of my tribe you nazi poophead" shit.
 
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It's been a really interesting war from the perspective of military history. Seeing Russia's initial ambitious, highly mobile, plan fail and their change of tactics to a much slower war is interesting as it shows how the nature of modern warfare has changed. While mechanized infantry is still going to be a thing in modern armies, it really shows that you cant just blitzkrieg a well armed and motivated opponent.
I'm of the opinion that they simply didn't prepare nor commit hard enough to their initial move set. This was Putin's war, had he been more personally committed to it he would've gone down to the ground level to inspect his own army to see if they're up to snuff to actually invade Ukraine.
Russia really needs to invest more resources in infantry patrols to clear and secure its areas of operation. This war also shows that an army cant just ignore pockets of resistance behind it's lines. The pockets resistance to the east of Kiev, behind the Russian advance, seem to really be causing major issues to Russian supply lines. At this point Russia would be better off retreating to defensible positions and trying a slower much more careful offensive when their units are reorganized and resupplied.
Not happening, rumor has it that Russia is pretty much all out of tanks and proper military trucks, they can't and haven't been producing more because they're all either foreign bought or Soviet legacy vehicles and they're now sending in the Ford F-150s. Less than zero consideration went into this becoming a prolonged conflict.
 
Also Russia didn't ignore pockets of resistance being a potential threat, Russia straight up assumed resistance is not going to exist, eastern Ukraine is mostly Russian speaking folk, Russians have seen everyone who can say "сука блять" as a Russian Loyalist for centuries at this point and based their chances for military successes in given regions based on how many Russian speaking people are there.
Yeah I do agree. I think the entire world is kinda surprised how the Russian speakers really don't want to be under occupation by the Russian state.
 
Yeah I do agree. I think the entire world is kinda surprised how the Russian speakers really don't want to be under occupation by the Russian state.
Eastern Europe largely remembers being either part of or basically being part of the USSR, very few (55+ year olds) are nostalgic for it and it's mostly because they can't even comprehend the world around them, it changed so much. Younger people know full well that once Russian boot got off their neck their living standards went WAY up whether they speak Russian and write Cyrillic or not.

Russia is butthurt because people in what used to be it's satellite states are starting to have better lives than an average Russian, which an average Russian can see, do the 2+2=4 math of "Russia huge, has gas, has oil, has nukes, why they do better than Boris?", Russia, the way it works, absolutely requires being surrounded by failed slave states like Belarus where Russians can go and fuck hookers for a ruble pittance or else the "Russian Power Fantasy Dream" falls apart and it's leaders find themselves in bulletproof glass cages like Putin at his stadium speech.
 
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The first is curious because the claims that Ukraine shelled Russia first and did so for years is contested, and if the Russo-Ukrainian war really is a mirror of the Russo-Finnish war, and the similarities are uncanny down to Russia losing tanks to the Finns, then it would logically follow that these Ukrainian shell attacks on Russia prior to the war were indeed false flags. I realize I'm operating on crystal ball "history repeats" logic but this looks like it's straight out of Stalin's playbook.
Correction: Donbas (Donetsk/Lugansk) are not Russian, but occupied by Russians Ukrainian territory since 2014
At no point did Ukraine shell Russia, or commit any other type of aggression against Russia (beside political/verbal, I suppose, though even then there isn't much prior to 2014)
 
"muh warcrimes' putinfags conveniently forget how Russia deliberately bombed theater filled with civilians hiding there, despite "CHILDREN" written in massive white letters on the ground around it that can be seen from way high up.
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