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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Russia 'to reduce activity around Kyiv and Chernihiv'​

Russia's deputy defence minister Alexander Fomin says Russia will "radically reduce" military activity outside Kyiv and Chernihiv - that's according to the news agency Tass.

Aim to increase mutual trust – Russia​

More from Russia's deputy defence minister - who is speaking after negotiators from Russia and Ukraine met in Istanbul for three hours.

Alexander Fomin said the decision to "radically reduce" Russia's military activity in the two cities was taken in order to "increase mutual trust" and help lead to further negotiations and achieving the "ultimate goal" of a signed agreement between the two sides, in comments reported by Russian news agency Ria Novosti.

 
Sounds like Russia is giving up on Kyiv which is something at least (or pretending they are). Had been looking like Russia was having their supply routes fucked with enough that they were either going to have a bunch of people captured or have to retreat in some way from some of their Western advances.

Could be they want to consolidate their forces to fully take over the Eastern parts of Ukraine, but I'd doubt Ukraine would be willing to give up anything at this point given how much destruction Russia has wrought and how well Ukraine has performed.

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Pardon the crosspost from the other thread, but this war ending in a draw will be extremely lame and gay. All that death and destruction for nothing.
>Russian economy getting obliterated harder than a Ukrainian apartment building
>Russian military getting exposed as a complete fucking rotten shell of itself
>Russians BTFO so hard by tiny and theoretically weaker neighbour that they are having to essentially give up

>nothing

Nigga what more can you want from a modern war?
 
>Russian economy getting obliterated harder than a Ukrainian apartment building
>Russian military getting exposed as a complete fucking rotten shell of itself
>Russians BTFO so hard by tiny and theoretically weaker neighbour that they are having to essentially give up

>nothing

Nigga what more can you want from a modern war?
A climactic, decisive battle.
 
Pardon the crosspost from the other thread, but this war ending in a draw will be extremely lame and gay. All that death and destruction for nothing.
What? There’s no “draw” in this scenario. Either Russia succeeds in taking over all or part of Ukraine (Russia win), or they don’t (Ukraine win). And right now, even if Russia wins, it’ll be a Pyrrhic victory.
 
Imo it's fairly obvious nobody has been writing any new handbooks since Stalin, they managed to steal a North Korean memo about threatening everyone with nukes so, some progress was made.

Also Russia didn't ignore pockets of resistance being a potential threat, Russia straight up assumed resistance is not going to exist, eastern Ukraine is mostly Russian speaking folk, Russians have seen everyone who can say "сука блять" as a Russian Loyalist for centuries at this point and based their chances for military successes in given regions based on how many Russian speaking people are there.

Edit: I read recently that baltic states are concerned that their Russian minorities are going to be used as an excuse for invasion just like Lugansk and Donbas, hell, I can seeit already "Special Military Operation has caused russophobia in your nation, we will denazify and liberate our suffering people from your corrupt western russophobic government" Russians are becoming the new Jews/Niggers/Trannies with their "you're just phobic of my tribe you nazi poophead" shit.
Putin's method of "rescuing" these Russian speaking ethnic Russian minority enclaves by bombing their homes and livelihoods flat, killing their families, then rolling tanks over them to kill any survivors! Is really gonna boost his credibility among the Russian Speakers in other ex Soviet States.
 
Video supposedly of Donetsk conscripts being sent off to fight for Russia plus a twitter guy's translation.
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As I noted in the other thread; these guys are supposed to be from the same unit, yet they have no uniformity in gear or weapons; another indication that Russia is seemingly scraping the barrel bottom. If this isn't a Ukrainian stunt with captured gear & POWs (possibly), well..... sucks to be them, those poor bastards. At least they're not alone.
 
Putin's method of "rescuing" these Russian speaking ethnic Russian minority enclaves by bombing their homes and livelihoods flat, killing their families, then rolling tanks over them to kill any survivors! Is really gonna boost his credibility among the Russian Speakers in other ex Soviet States.
Or, you know, mobilizing all the liberated males into a militia and sending them to "Operation: Bait the ukies so True Russians know where to aim the artillery" with 90% casualties.
 
so that vid about kneecaping russian prisoners ...

two days before the talks in Turkey ... boom, suddenly the vid of abuse comes out, never mind that:
The authenticity of the harrowing footage has not been independently verified, and exactly where the videos were shot was unclear.

Two propaganda strategies:

1. Distract. Never mind that 500# dumb bombs are being dropped on civvies, you got to switch the conversation to some bullshit vid, really the only vid of some blatant abuse that could not be placed or verified. Change the narrative to something else. The timing is superconvinient, right on queue. (just like every Donbass shelling, right when you need them)

2. Rotten fish strategy. Foist some heinous accusation. Even if it's disproven later, the effect of the original accusation will linger. At some point we'll have more information if this is really fake or not, but it may be a month or two later. One thing is guaranteed, this vid will be paraded each time a tard needs "but muh mistreatment" argument, despite proofs and investigations later (which won't have the same public impact)

At Turkey's talks, RF Medinsky officially condemns Ukrainian armed forces ... based on a video where no one is identified and no location/ source could be identified.
He also says: 'it's better Ukrainians find the perps before we do, because you know what will happen then ..." ... so basically it's only bad to torture POWs if it's the other guys doing it.

And Medisnky's sentiment is shared by a Russian rag:

MOSCOW, March 29. /TASS/. The deputy chairman of the State Duma’s committee for civil society and non-governmental and religious organizations, Vladimir Shamanov, says that Russian commandos had managed to seize those responsible for torturing Russian prisoners of war in Ukraine.

"Those who had tortured our soldiers did not stay on the lose for too long. It took our commandos three days to apprehend these freaks. Today they are crawling at our feet, asking for mercy,"

if you indeed captured the perps, we are all waiting for the perp walk, for positive IDs, faces ... nope, an RF official makes claims without any support what so ever ( support that they reportedly have, TASS is a state PR/information agency, not just a newspaper)
 
As I noted in the other thread; these guys are supposed to be from the same unit, yet they have no uniformity in gear or weapons; another indication that Russia is seemingly scraping the barrel bottom. If this isn't a Ukrainian stunt with captured gear & POWs (possibly), well..... sucks to be them, those poor bastards. At least they're not alone.

They're also Donbass irregulars.

Glancing at their uniforms, they seem to be sporting late 80s soviet winter kit, so fuck knows where some of that shit was being kept.

Whole truck probably smells of mothballs.

Darkness of the varnish on the rifles means those poor bastards are armed with AK-47s too.
 
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Literally all sources other than yours say otherwise.

IndiaToday
NDTV
Aljazeera
Reuters
CNBC
Buissnesstoday
Chinadaily

Note that I included, american, chinese, and indian outlets.
If you actually read what you posted, you would know India rejected China's "overture," which amounts to "you can't beat us, so you might as well give up and let us do as we please."

Which is a pretty bold stance considering how many Chink heads the Poos caved in on that glacier lol

FM Wang also blew the whole deal by saying that Kashmir should be independent as well, so he basically flushed any possible opportunity for progress.
 
If you actually read what you posted, you would know India rejected China's "overture," which amounts to "you can't beat us, so you might as well give up and let us do as we please."

Which is a pretty bold stance considering how many Chink heads the Poos caved in on that glacier lol

FM Wang also blew the whole deal by saying that Kashmir should be independent as well, so he basically flushed any possible opportunity for progress.
Almost every talk attempted by both sides end in failure; it's been that way even before the Ukraine-Russia War.





You missed the Russia-China-India economic alliance, and the soon to be end to Chinese Indian Border war
Economic alliance? You mean China's soon-to-be domination of Russia?
 
Snake Island. "Russian military ship, go fuck yourself"

The comms to the island were lost and everyone presumed dead. When it looked like these guys were confirmed alive, I saw a lot of people cheering that they were. From a political perspective, martyrs are better for the cause, but from human perspective, I'm glad they are alive, politics be fucked. Few more lives saved in this madness.

They were exchanged, the guy who coined the phrase got a minor medal.

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Kharkiv Dist, near Chuguyevo ... a bunch of RF soldier bodies discovered without wounds or signs of forced death. Also some identifying docs. It looks like bodies were simply dumped into the ditch, still have guns on them.

"work notebook, commander, mechanized infantry, guards leutenant colonel Gerasimov V.S."

we'll see when this is confirmed, but it may be like comrades froze to death and got dumped into a ditch in complete gear and arms. That PKM is worth a small fortune.

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If you actually read what you posted, you would know India rejected China's "overture,
I hope you see the irony in your post.
Economic alliance? You mean China's soon-to-be domination of Russia?
Naturally Indians and the Chinese are gonna abuse the fact that they can now get tons of vital resources (like wheat) from Russia for super cheap. Maybe an alliance was not the best word, but it's the one that felt most fitting at the time.
 
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