Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[SneedEyeMitch]

You either live long enough to waste your life sperging on the internet or die young while shitposting.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

You either live long enough to waste your life sperging on the internet or die young while shitposting.

And if we do die, we can go to our graves, heads held high and proud, for we were not redditors.

 

[NynchLiggers]

Sweet merciful shit!

https://mobile.twitter.com/bopanc/status/1508461653314134017

>Bellingcat
Niggers tongue this twitterfag's anus.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Ironically true if they didn't exist prior to WW2.

If the White Russians had defeated the commies in that Russian Civil War.

Would they have continued the Tsar larping or turn it into some sort of democracy?

 

[NynchLiggers]

Spoiler: Sperging

Russia is still in New START. Both US and Russia monitor locations of deployed warheads and even allow on-site inspections. There won't be a defined "insurgency moment" as Jan, 6, but a long process of sabotaging Kremlin's orders by regional elites and the independence will only be declared at the moment when the central power is at its weakest. Just like in 1989-1991.

Russia has 1st/2nd largest nuclear arsenal and also serves as a proxy nuclear shield for China (any nuclear attack on China will involve ICBMs flying awfully close to Russian airspace and will likely trigger retaliatory strike). I'd argue that economic decoupling from the West will make Russia more dangerous in the long run, as Western countries won't have the leverage they had previously. Europe (and to a lesser extent, USA) will have to deal with Russia, sooner or later.

>muh China
Even if China can make exactly what you need, you'd still need to replace the existing machinery. That's hundreds of thousands of Euros even for a small installment and months/years in waiting times if we're talking about production lines.
And now let's get to what China can't replace: precision CNC machines, radiation-protected semiconductors, oil&gas machinery, complex analytical equipment (chromatographs, mass- and NMR spectrometers, X-ray diffractometers), complex pharmaceutical substances, other advanced biotech, microprocessors using <54nm process, passenger planes...
And please tell me about homogeneity of Russia. Even ethnic Russian from St. Petersburg and Krasnodar have different way of life, culture, history and traditions. And then there's more than dozen of autonomous republics, sometimes with their own constitutions, state languages and phenotypically distinct populations. As I've said before, there's no need for CIA niggers to instigate separatism. The current contract between Kremlin and regional governments is "you provide electoral support for ruling party and we let you keep some money your region generates and rule as you see fit". The majority of money is generated from exports, and majority of exports go to EU countries. As money flow dries out, the contract is broken. And without money, it'll become harder and harder for Kremlin to keep regions in line.
Ah yes, Venezuela, that is almost 20 times smaller than Russia and has the same population as Moscow agglomeration. And much less ethnically diverse.
There won't be "taking down" Putin. There will be regions slowly falling off one by one, just because the West can offer them better contract than Kremlin. Sure, Putin can keep Central Russia, but that's dying part of the country with Moscow sucking human capital from it and no natural resources.

lmao this is wishful thinking at this point, unironically believing Jewtin would let his ego handle large scale overt american homosexual operations without escalation.

 

[White_N]

The Oval Pawffice stands by Biden’s call for Putin’s assassination
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We REALLY need those lunacy stickers.

bellingcat - the home of online investigations​

I don't know this sounds pretty official and serious.

By the way

Oh god I'm gonna arghhh oh god im gonna dissideeeeeeeeent ARGGGHHH OH GOD IM DISSENTING ARGGGH

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

If the White Russians had defeated the commies in that Russian Civil War.

Would they have continued the Tsar larping or turn it into some sort of democracy?

Probably some sort if dictatorship if what passed for leaders among the whites is any indication.

 

[tulskij_tochnyj]

I'm sure that their oligarchs were very happy about the markets. Afghanistan's GDP also skyrocketed from 2002 to 2014. (reference: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=AF )

How well did it turn out for the people of Ukraine and Georgia, though? Did relying on the West improve their quality of life? Can ask the same about Afghanistan too, I guess.

And now compare it to Russia, where real wages have been stagnating since 2018, even with all natural resources and rent extraction. And ironically the main problem of Ukraine and Georgia was a border with Russia.

Russia in general suffers from a brain drain. A ton of specialists left the country in the 90s when Russia became a complete shithole, been bleeding specialists over the years even after improvement, and a lot of people are predicting Russia being a pariah for the entire West is going to cause another exodus of specialists.

Many IT guys are relocating to Turkey, Armenia and Georgia of all countries. Previous brain drain is nothing compare to this.

Lol, if the U.S. couldn't even accomplish regime change in Venezuela of all places and replace it with one glowie puppet then how the fuck do you think you're going to accomplish regime change in Russia?

Yeah, Russia will allow the U.S. to take hold of their thousands of nukes without a fight, you're delusional.

No matter how you spin it, your plans are incredibly braindead.

I've literally describe how it can happen. The current security apparatus of Russia is bloated, thanks to easy oil&gas money. Many regions, like Chechnya and Caucasus in general, are dependent on federal gibs. Other regions survive only because oil&gas. And now imagine you don't have these money anymore. Next day Kadyrov will set up blockades on roads and will start waving ISIS flag, demanding his gibs. Will you send an army? Great, but how will you pay for it? By cutting FSB budget? Amazing, now separatists in other regions are starting to rise their heads, no longer afraid of defunded secret police. And so on.

lmao this is wishful thinking at this point, unironically believing Jewtin would let his ego handle large scale overt american homosexual operations without escalation.

As I said, it can still take years, and foreign intervention is not essential (although it can reduce the overall chaos. Or increase it if glowies will fuck up).

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

on their own and if Ukraine as a whole is impoverished after the war loses its luster in the West? no, not really...at best they'll be akin to the fucking Chetniks or Ustasha of the Balkans...they'll wither away over time.

but if they learned how to REALLY con the West into funding them, turning to Gofundme or some shit, and if you try and shut them down how dare you obstruct the 'Slava Ukraini' and the glorious resistance to the Russian oppression? Hooboy...then hard fucking agree.

As I've been saying, It'd be really funny if Ukraine turns into the new Nazi Germany and invades Poland.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Personally I'd be wary of all the talk of Russia pulling out. There's a pretty strong chance they're holding and monitoring activity so they can go and carpet bomb another ammo factory or barracks. Even if Russia is taking heavy losses they still have a significant advantage, and if they pay close attention to the roads coming in from the West they should be able to pick off supply drops.

 

[ulsterscotsman]

on their own and if Ukraine as a whole is impoverished after the war loses its luster in the West? no, not really...at best they'll be akin to the fucking Chetniks or Ustasha of the Balkans...they'll wither away over time.

but if they learned how to REALLY con the West into funding them, turning to Gofundme or some shit, and if you try and shut them down how dare you obstruct the 'Slava Ukraini' and the glorious resistance to the Russian oppression? Hooboy...then hard fucking agree.

They won't need western funds when Ukraine is already flooded with weapons.

 

[NynchLiggers]

There's only one with someone that is actually in a typical ukrop soldier uniform. The rest are shitty videos where it's a"""ukranian civilian""" talking in Russian about typical Azov = bad and other typical propaganda, they're also all translated in english and overwhelmingly shared by pajeets, if you fall for that you're just retarded, there are like 700 Azov and they're spread out in Mariupol, Kiev, Kharkiv, Odessa. The 95% of ukrops soldiers in Mariupol are not Azov at all.

Mariupol is basically the unit's headquarters retard
stop letting your seething hatred of vatniks cloud your judgement

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

My real question is what the fuck is that weird fucked up skin shit near his eye.

It's where the human skin grafts attach to the scaly nodules.

 

[White_N]

If the White Russians had defeated the commies in that Russian Civil War.

Would they have continued the Tsar larping or turn it into some sort of democracy?

50-50, many do not know, but after the abdication of Nicholas 2 from the throne , the provisional government took over, which could well pass for a parliamentary republic or constitutional monarchy. But yes, the white movement had internal organizational problems because it was a motley group: monarchists, social democrats, cossacks, bourgeois, centrists, and foreigners, so it's hard to say what this group turned into if it won.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Russian Russians need to emphasize the fact that it is not the first year that "we are at war with the mirror," that is, "some Russians are killing other Russians."


"Russian Russians alone are you and me, who have preserved the memory of our ancestors, our history and our Russian identity in purity. "Other Russians" are the residents of historical Little Russia, Novorossiya, Podillya, and Volhynia, who were deceived by false propaganda and sold their souls for 30 American silver coins. They did not want to lay down their arms, they spat on their Russian name and the memory of their ancestors. They followed the path of Judas Iscariot. They spoke and thought in Russian, but they died like animals abandoned to the mercy of fate and cornered."

Medinsky on the torture of Russian captured fighters:


The head of the Russian delegation, Medinsky:


""We protested against the videos that appeared with the torture of captured Russian servicemen.

This protest of the Ukrainian side has been accepted. They promised to take the toughest measures if they were caught first. If they're caught by ours, well, you understand... We were heard. "
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The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry advised diplomats "not to eat or drink anything" during negotiations with Russia. It is also better not to touch the surfaces, Minister Kuleba warned.

In the video, Ukrainian negotiator Arahamiya tells Medinsky about the antiseptic.
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Erdogan has always wanted to revive the glory days of the Ottomans.

Though weirdly enough, I didn't know till watching Lawrence of Arabia years ago, that the Arabs were to Ottomans what the hohols are to Ivan when they ruled over them.

 

[Narcotics]

About belingcat saying putin is in bunker mode.

 

[UmQasaan]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1508774152441942018?s=21&t=MewVEK5iDs3axmz2NPVU7Q

 

[Oakland1]

The 10 second video with 0 context that shills and pajeets keep posting on Twitter lmao? Let me guess, boogiemen Azov are also wasting their limited munition to shell the humanitarian corridors and civilian buldings, right?

I think that a month in, it should be common knowledge that Ukrainian civil and military authorities are denying the escape of civilians, both out of the country (which you know already) and from besieged cities. The policy is the same everywhere, not limited to Mariupol and Azov battalion. Ironically, if you're an Ukrainian military-age male and have even a tiny bit of sanity left, you should run towards Russian-controlled territories and cross the border to Russia or Belarus (which they're more than happy to let you, especially if you continue to the West) instead of being detained at Ukrainian-controlled border crossing and drafted straight into the meatgrinder. And that's exactly what over half a million people did already.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Funny you should mention that. The following information is completely unsubstantiated - I got it from Telegram channels, so it may very well be a bunch of baloney - but some armchair analysts are saying Russian Ministry of Defense stopped the advance because the negotiations have progressed significantly and that there is no need to upset the emerging fragile consensus with potential big time fuck-ups.

This smells suspiciously like copium to me though.

Having learned through this invasion that your country's military doctrine is different from "Shock and Awe" so I guess many of us are surprised that Putin didn't reduce Kiev to ashes with whatever is the Russian equivalent of the "Mother of all Bombs" and it seems like Putin was more into annexing Ukraine than reducing it to ashes and building it up.

Though some in this thread have said and posted sources stating that the Russians in the first week gained more land than America did during the first week of the Iraq War iirc, so that is impressive if true.

 

[Hell on Earth]

I've literally describe how it can happen. The current security apparatus of Russia is bloated, thanks to easy oil&gas money. Many regions, like Chechnya and Caucasus in general, are dependent on federal gibs. Other regions survive only because oil&gas. And now imagine you don't have these money anymore. Next day Kadyrov will set up blockades on roads and will start waving ISIS flag, demanding his gibs. Will you send an army? Great, but how will you pay for it? By cutting FSB budget? Amazing, now separatists in other regions are starting to rise their heads, no longer afraid of defunded secret police. And so on.

As I said, it can still take years, and foreign intervention is not essential (although it can reduce the overall chaos. Or increase it if glowies will fuck up).

You're braindead if the Russians don't discover and eliminate any large scale glowie ops inside Russia.

Eventually they'll connect the puzzles and tensions will be too high and Russia will become another North Korea or Cuba in terms of paranoia. You're mental if you think this can have any chance of success.