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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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There are only two things that walked upon the Earth the Wehrmacht ever truly feared in WW2: the Russian hordes and US artillery.
They weren’t particularly thrilled with the US’s flamethrowers either. Especially when they started deploying flamethrower tanks. It’s likely that the Japanese weren’t fond of those either. We can’t be sure because nobody survived to make a complaint.
 

Account of disillusioned RU conscripts with bad gear. One thing I am not so sure of is RU admitting to 9861 deaths. I though their admitted figure was much lower. Now they complain of AK-47s which must newer or poorly maintained (plausible given the grotty state of much Russuan gear) but one war trend seems to be the poor performance of more recent gear like T-80, T-90 and various BMPs judging by visually confirmed kills. The Daily Mail is the Daily Mail, but their stuff can be good enough.

One thing I note sometimes is the sheer insanity of some Western Putinists. I read one claiming Russia is now on 'phase 2' and will attain all their goals. Getting rid of Putin would be a worthy goal, and goals, if you include his siloviki cronies, but that's probably not what they mean.

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“The dead were crushed by tanks”: up to 300 civilians killed in Irpin – Mayor of Irpin

Oleksandr Markushyn, the Mayor of Irpin, has reported that up to 300 civilians and 50 military personnel have been killed in Irpin, according to preliminary information.

Source: Oleksandr Markushyn during a press briefing a the Ukrainian Media Centre

According to Markushyn: "They [the Russian troops] simply shot the people that they didn’t like.

I will say this – maybe some people won’t like this, but it is true. They crushed the bodies of Ukrainians who had been killed, just flattened them into the asphalt. It was frightening to watch…

Unfortunately, 16 guys from our territorial defence died, 29 have been hospitalised. As for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, up to 50 people were killed and nearly 100 wounded."

Details: Markushyn said that it is still impossible to determine the exact number of civilians who have been killed and added that during the periods of heavy fighting, people were being buried in courtyards and parks. Markushyn believes that up to 300 civilians were killed.

The Mayor also said that the local residents who were hiding in basements [during the Russian occupation of Irpin] told him that not only were some of them stripped naked there, but also that there have been instances of [sexual] assault on women.

Markushyn also said that the occupying troops separated the men from the women for prisoner exchange.
 
They weren’t particularly thrilled with the US’s flamethrowers either. Especially when they started deploying flamethrower tanks. It’s likely that the Japanese weren’t fond of those either. We can’t be sure because nobody survived to make a complaint.
The flamethrowers were mostly a Pacific thing thanks to the jungle. The terrain combined with Japanese talents at digging in meant the only way to do anything about entrenched defenders was to burn them out, since artillery and airstrikes weren't as effective as they otherwise might have been.

Shotguns were also mostly a Pacific thing for that same reason. Combat wasn't nearly so close quarters in Europe as it was in WW1.
 

Two Russian fighter jets that violated Swedish airspace earlier this month 'were equipped with NUKES with the aim of scaring Stockholm'​

  • Four planes had taken off from Kaliningrad in Russia before flying over Sweden
  • The jets violated the country's airspace over the island of Gotland on March 2
  • Two of the aircraft - Sukhoi 24 attack planes - are now said to have carried nukes
Two Russian planes that violated Swedish airspace earlier this month were equipped with nuclear weapons, it has emerged.

The flyover near the island of Gotland on March 2 was a deliberate act designed to intimidate Sweden, according to Swedish news channel TV4 Nyheterna.

A total of four planes had taken off from the Russian air base of Kaliningrad.

They consisted of two Sukhoi 24 attack planes, which were escorted by two Sukhoi 27 fighter jets.

It was the two attack planes which were, according to TV4 Nyheter sources, equipped with nuclear weapons.
The violation of Swedish territory lasted for about a minute.

The country's air force deployed two JAS 39 Gripen which took pictures of the intruders.

It was then, say Swedish media, that it was confirmed the Russian planes were equipped with nuclear warheads.

'This is a signal to Sweden that we have nuclear weapons and we could also consider using them,' military strategic expert Stefan Ring told TV4 Nyheter.

'We assess it as a conscious action. Which is very serious especially as [Russia] is a warring country,' added Air Force Chief Carl-Johan Edström.

'I can not rule out incorrect navigation, but everything indicates that it was a deliberate act. That they violated Sweden's borders.'

The incident came days after Russian President Vladimir Putin had threatened military action against Sweden and neighboring Finland should either join NATO.

The countries had been conducting joint military exercises at the time.

'In light of the current situation we are very concerned about the incident,' Swedish Mr Edstrom said following the incident.

'This is unprofessional and irresponsible behavior from the Russian side.'

Swedish fighter jets were scrambled and took photographs of the Russian jets, the statement said.

After the end of the Cold War, Sweden slashed military spending. It was only after Russia's annexation of the Crimean peninsula in 2014 that parliament agreed on a turnaround.

Sweden reintroduced mandatory military service in 2017 and reopened its garrison on the island of Gotland in the Baltic Sea in January 2018.

In October, it bumped up defence spending by 40 percent with an extra 27 billion Swedish kronor ($2.8 billion, 2.5 billion euros) to be added to the defence budget from 2021 to 2025.

Sweden is not a NATO member, but cooperates closely with the alliance.

However, like in neighboring Finland, the debate around NATO membership has been reignited in recent weeks.

According to a poll by public broadcaster SVT in April, support for joining NATO is historically high in Sweden at 41 percent.
 
In WW1, the Germans complained that the US using shotguns in trench warfare was "barbaric".
That's just because they were ass-mad this republic an ocean away that had existed for not even 150 years was kicking their asses.

Funnily enough, both the Bongs and Frogs had looked at shotguns for obvious reasons, but the only ones they had or could make in quantity were side-by-side hunting ones that couldn't handle high-power shells. Needless to say, to this day Euros have no idea that your typical shotgun in America is a 4+ shot pump action as suitable for killing men as deer. You're more likely to find some fancy, over-engraved double-barrel for posh bastards than a cheap one these days.
 
Germany gets ready to activate their Emergency Gas Plan. It looks suspiciously like “Eat your bugs in the dark peasants!”
If it's any consolation to the Krauts, it would have happened either way sooner or later. While fucking their energy sector in the arse, and not even in the Greek way, for the sake of virtue signaling against corrupt third world shithole for invading another corrupt third world shithole may have accelerated things, it wasn't nearly as much of an oops as falling for the green energy meme.

Mistakes happen to the best of us.
 
There are already articles in Germany criticizing Merkel and past leadership for getting soft and bought out by Putin, starting with go ahead with Nordstream2 right after annexation of Crimea. German military spending suddenly shot through the roof, just in the recent month, so that's probably a good evidence that they are changing their politics as a country.

The last government of Germany was a big coalition of the social democrats (SPD) and the Christian conservatives(CDU) for the last 16 years. The current coalition is one of the SPD, the Greens and the "libertarians" - free market people, the FDP.

There was a recent state election in the Saarland region. It is very small but this are the results:
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Left is the total vote. Everything under 5 % is not getting in.
Right is the change compared to the last state election.

The difference is telling. The CDU, which is often blamed for their slow acceleration with renewable energies lost a lot of support. And the party "Die Linke" lost nearly all of their support. They are a very left leaning party. Rather friendly towards Russia and very critical towards NATO. They would like to see the armed forces of Germany be disbanded, just as an example.

The Saarland state is small as mentioned. But it gives some general direction. The new coalition is getting support.
If it's any consolation to the Krauts, it would have happened either way sooner or later. While fucking their energy sector in the arse, and not even in the Greek way, for the sake of virtue signaling against corrupt third world shithole for invading another corrupt third world shithole may have accelerated things, it wasn't nearly as much of an oops as falling for the green energy meme.

Mistakes happen to the best of us.
Only a short answer since I do not want to derail to much. Germany pretty much only has coal as a resource. But coal is a rather bad choice, based on the health impacts alone. Nuclear is a bit harder to explain, but it lacks support in the population (at least in the past) and Germany is a democracy. So hard to get that through.

The plan was as follows for the energy shift:

- Build up loads of wind and solar, since you need way more capacity in renewables compared to conventional energy production
- This will lead to times where Germany has an overproduction or underproduction of electricity
- Use the times of overproduction to convert the energy into synthetic gas via power-to-gas methods
- Store the synthetic gas in the already existing gas infrastructure as a seasonal (lasting for months) storage
- Then use that gas in gas power plants that are way more flexible to changes in energy production compared to coal/nuclear power plants

Germany is still in the "Build up a shitload of renewables phase", so the Russia stuff is fucking with Germany quite a lot now but it 100 % shows the need of having energy independence. So far that the FDP party even called it "Freiheitsenergie" - "Freedom energy". My view is that the Ukraine invasion will only accelerate the progress of renewables.

Hope this could elaborate a bit
 
Btw. thanks to everyone in this thread who actually posts news & links. The other thread is just a insufferable shithole of shilling and meme language instead of actual happening.
The Happenings thread is what happens when Redditoid lefties and post-2016 4chan supermegaAIDS rightoids make a retarded Down syndrome baby.
 
There's also parts of Russia that are uninhabitable. So despite it being a big country you got both alot of uninhabitable places and alot of poor towns. The only thing it has going for it is the major cities and that's it. And even the major cities are more for the rich in Russia.
That's what you get for dumping toxic waste into drinking water like the Simpsons.
 
To be fair, drinking water is true for almost every part of the Soviet Union.

It's still a bit of a shock to me when I go to places where you can actually fucking drink from the tap.
You should go to the United States, drinkable tap water is kind of a big deal here.

Don't go to Flint.
 
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