US USDOT Announces New Vehicle Fuel Economy Standards for Model Year 2024-2026 - As if this worked out about 10 years ago...


The U.S. Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration today announced new, landmark fuel economy standards which follow President Biden’s executive order to drive American leadership forward on clean cars. The new standards will make vehicle miles per gallon more efficient, save consumers money at the pump, and reduce transportation emissions.

The new Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards require an industry-wide fleet average of approximately 49 mpg for passenger cars and light trucks in model year 2026, the strongest cost savings and fuel efficiency standards to date. The new standards will increase fuel efficiency 8% annually for model years 2024-2025 and 10% annually for model year 2026. They will also increase the estimated fleetwide average by nearly 10 miles per gallon for model year 2026, relative to model year 2021.

Strong fuel economy standards strengthen U.S. energy independence and help reduce reliance on fossil fuels. Since CAFE was signed into law in 1975, the standards have reduced American oil consumption by 25%, or approximately 5 million barrels a day since then.

The new CAFE standards for model year 2024-26 will reduce fuel use by more than 200 billion gallons through 2050, as compared to continuing under the old standards.

Increasing vehicle efficiency and reducing fuel use will save American families and consumers money at the pump. Americans purchasing new vehicles in 2026 will get 33% more miles per gallon as compared to 2021 vehicles. This means new car drivers in 2026 will only have to fill up their tanks three times as compared to every four times that new car drivers today do for the same trips.

“Today's rule means that American families will be able to drive further before they have to fill up, saving hundreds of dollars per year,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. “These improvements will also make our country less vulnerable to global shifts in the price of
oil, and protect communities by reducing carbon emissions by 2.5 billion metric tons.”

The new standards will also reduce greenhouse gas emissions and air pollution. These reductions will improve public health and provide environmental justice for communities who live near freeways and other heavily trafficked roadways, which are disproportionately low-income communities of color.

“NHTSA is helping American families by making life more affordable – and the air cleaner for their children. These vehicles will be better for the environment, safer than ever, and cost less to fuel over their lifetimes. We are proud to fulfill President Biden’s mission to move us to a more sustainable future, one that strengthens American energy independence and helps put more money in American families’ pockets,” said Dr. Steven Cliff, NHTSA’s Deputy Administrator.

This announcement of new standards comes as the automobile industry is retooling production for future models in response to rapidly growing market demand for cleaner, more fuel-efficient vehicles. Nearly all auto manufacturers have announced new electric vehicle models.

More robust fuel economy standards will encourage the industry to continue improving the fuel economy of cars powered by internal combustion engines as the transportation sector transitions to electrification.

Today’s final fuel economy standards follow President Biden’s Executive Order 13990, which directed NHTSA to review the 2020 “The Safer Affordable Fuel-Efficient (SAFE) Vehicles Rule for Model Years 2021-2026 Passenger Cars and Light Trucks” final rule. These CAFE standards also support the Biden-Harris Administration’s priorities to cut costs for American families, improve public health, combat climate change, and create and sustain good-paying jobs with a free and fair choice to join a union.

For the final Corporate Average Fuel Economy rule, please click here. For more on today’s announcement, please visit www.NHTSA.gov/CAFE.

I remembered about 10 years ago, a president who's first name starts with B, and last name ends with A, did something similar to this. And what we got is stuff like Cash for Clunkers, VW's Dieselgate, Ford's PowerShift (which should have been named PowerShit) Dual-Clutch Transmission, and Nissan's XTronic 2.0 CVT (which was actually an upgrade in terms of them grenading themselves). Will it work out better this time?
 
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I'm a car guy, and three letter agencies have been putting all kinds of crazy restrictions on cars since the 70's. The initial response was to turn a 350 ci 350 hp engine into a low compression 350 ci 150 hp boat anchor with all kinds of complicated vacuum operated prone to failure smog reduction shit for example, but as the times have changed so have the technologies. Now we have 2.5L four banger Kias making 300hp. There have been ebbs and flows and the new technology hasn't always been that reliable at first, but as we go we are actually getting more horsepower and fuel economy out of the gas we burn. EV really is the future though. I'm not an environmentalist and I know that they run on coal and natural gas, but the performance is already there and battery technology is advancing faster than I ever thought it would.

Edit: I just remembered this video
It touches on fleet averages which is what all emission laws to date rely on. I won't time stamp that part just because it is an informative video that you should watch if you are interested in cars.
 
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I actually looked this up in an official Fuel Economy guide and it said that a 2021 model Honda Civic has a City MPG of 32 and a Highway MPG of 42 with an overall Average of 36, How the fuck can Honda expect to increase their average MPG by 13 in 4 fucking years
A. At all
B. without making a Honda Civic cost the same as a BMW
 
require an industry-wide fleet average of approximately 49 mpg for passenger cars and light trucks in model year 2026

Fuck CAFE bullshit. This just absolutely annihilates fun cars, this why there is no WRX STI anymore. You can't make AWD cars and have a sportscar, you can't make the big ass SUVs the moms want and still have a sports car. This is why Miatas and AE 86s are slow as shit. Fuck democrats! Come pry my V8 out of my cold dead hands you faggots!

EV really is the future though. I'm not an environmentalist and I know that they run on coal and natural gas, but the performance is already there and battery technology is advancing faster than I ever thought it would.

Fuck iPhones on wheels, they are still using the same lithium tech, nobody has cracked solid state yet. Making bigger batteries or packing them into frame rails (as to make your whole fucking car disposable) is not advancement. Saving 2% charge via software trickery is not advancement. The amount of expensive lithium, copper and rare earth magnets (all of which are strip mined) needed to make them en mass will be astronomical.

Green is the color of slime and nothing more.
 
In addition to the obvious engine and transmission changes needed to meet these very :optimistic: :optimistic: :optimistic: requirements, there's also things such as Panoramic Sunroofs, which car companies are getting more and more obsessed with, and sunroofs in general, that are affected by this. Sunroofs have always been a massive balancing act between having the glass thick enough to not shatter easily, being light enough to keep car weight down for fuel economy, and also that it has to shatter into small pieces, to prevent passengers from getting injured when a sunroof shatter does happen. And with the recent trends of sunroof shattering, and sunroofs becoming pretty much standard equipment on cars, it's going to get worse. And windshields and car windows probably won't be safe from this either.

And spare tires will probably become more and more of a rarity too, all for the sake of reducing weight.

I actually looked this up in an official Fuel Economy guide and it said that a 2021 model Honda Civic has a City MPG of 32 and a Highway MPG of 42 with an overall Average of 36, How the fuck can Honda expect to increase their average MPG by 13 in 4 fucking years
A. At all
B. without making a Honda Civic cost the same as a BMW

The Chevrolet Volt also comes to mind, as that car was considered to be the best Plug-In Hybrid car ever made. But GM stopped selling them, because the EV credits ran out, and because of how expensive they were to make.

It's going to be question of what further corners get cut with cars, again just to chase the :optimistic: :optimistic: :optimistic: fuel economy requirements.
 
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And spare tires will probably become more and more of a rarity too, all for the same of reducing weight.

Fun fact some economists did a study a few years back and determined that every additional mpg resulted in extra deaths due to easiest thing to do to increase mpg is to make them lighter study in the edit

and correct me if I'm wrong but weight reduction is going to be negligible on the highway once you are up to speed. Weight reduction is only going to increase your stop and go city mileage. Aerodynamics is what increases highway mileage and we are at the limits of windtunnel optimization/manufacturers already need to design their front ends to meet all sorts of pedestrian impact standards.

Fuck these regulations, I would rather live in fucking Rapture.
 
I actually looked this up in an official Fuel Economy guide and it said that a 2021 model Honda Civic has a City MPG of 32 and a Highway MPG of 42 with an overall Average of 36, How the fuck can Honda expect to increase their average MPG by 13 in 4 fucking years
A. At all
B. without making a Honda Civic cost the same as a BMW
Fleet average. EV's count as zero. That's bullshit of course but that's how it is. Remember that no law or regulation goes into effect without corporate lobbyists having a hand in it. If the car makers didn't think it could happen the regulation wouldn't have been made and if the corporations were over optimistic the regulation will be adjusted. Most of this shit is political theater. Just enjoy your cars and don't worry about it.
This is why Miatas and AE 86s are slow as shit. Fuck democrats! Come pry my V8 out of my cold dead hands you faggots!
When weren't Miatas and AE 86's slow as shit? No ones taking your fucking V8 or my several. Every EV sold halves your V8's emission. If it wasn't for EVs and hybrids the V8 would be long gone.
 
I'm not a congressman, so I don't have the Pelosi hotline; but what I can tell you is Samsung is the company that makes Tesla's battery packs.

I'm not a financial advisor either, do what thou will.

49 mpg is like 650cc motorcycle mileage. WTF are you idiots thinking?
Bold of you to assume there's a coherent thought in the brains of a bunch of geriatrics and banker whores.

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“Today's rule means that American families will be able to drive further before they have to fill up, saving hundreds of dollars per year,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. “These improvements will also make our country less vulnerable to global shifts in the price of
oil, and protect communities by reducing carbon emissions by 2.5 billion metric tons.”
I dropped it in the Joe Biden Megathread earlier today; but fuck it, this is far more relvant.

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When weren't Miatas and AE 86's slow as shit? No ones taking your fucking V8 or my several. Every EV sold halves your V8's emission. If it wasn't for EVs and hybrids the V8 would be long gone.
Yes and CAFE has been around for a very long time. They just keep tightening the noose.

As I've stated before I would be fine with electric if they weren't going to do everything in their power to make impossible to keep old cars on the road. In theory they should make gas cheaper but it won't go down like that. Parts shortages, EPA/State regs suffocating the aftermarket, insane fuel policies, CA straight up confiscating cars over intakes and exhausts... They aren't going to let the tech shift organically they are going to regulate my hobby out of existence.
 
Yes and CAFE has been around for a very long time. They just keep tightening the noose.

As I've stated before I would be fine with electric if they weren't going to do everything in their power to make impossible to keep old cars on the road. In theory they should make gas cheaper but it won't go down like that. Parts shortages, EPA/State regs suffocating the aftermarket, insane fuel policies, CA straight up confiscating cars over intakes and exhausts... They aren't going to let the tech shift organically they are going to regulate my hobby out of existence.
And the only thing phasing out older cars does is put strain on the poorest to buy newer cars. Which benefits only those building and selling newer cars.
 
and correct me if I'm wrong but weight reduction is going to be negligible on the highway once you are up to speed. Weight reduction is only going to increase your stop and go city mileage. Aerodynamics is what increases highway mileage and we are at the limits of windtunnel optimization/manufacturers already need to design their front ends to meet all sorts of pedestrian impact standards.

Fuck these regulations, I would rather live in fucking Rapture.
Rolling resistance is dependent on the weight of the vehicle
 
and correct me if I'm wrong but weight reduction is going to be negligible on the highway once you are up to speed. Weight reduction is only going to increase your stop and go city mileage. Aerodynamics is what increases highway mileage and we are at the limits of windtunnel optimization/manufacturers already need to design their front ends to meet all sorts of pedestrian impact standards.

Fuck these regulations, I would rather live in fucking Rapture.
That's definitely true. My 90s era BMW v8 in a sleek 7 series chassis can easily get 27-28mpg on the highway, 30 with a tailwind. The same v8 engine in a SUV like the X5 or first few model year L322 Range Rovers barely crack 20mpg highway.
 
Yes and CAFE has been around for a very long time. They just keep tightening the noose.

As I've stated before I would be fine with electric if they weren't going to do everything in their power to make impossible to keep old cars on the road. In theory they should make gas cheaper but it won't go down like that. Parts shortages, EPA/State regs suffocating the aftermarket, insane fuel policies, CA straight up confiscating cars over intakes and exhausts... They aren't going to let the tech shift organically they are going to regulate my hobby out of existence.
CA. Ok, I get your gripe now. Leave. Go somewhere where you can have all the fun cars and guns. It's a real shame that a lot of trends that permeate car culture today originated in California and are now illegal in California.
 
Rolling resistance is dependent on the weight of the vehicle
Yeah but isn't that mostly due to tire deformation and larger wheels (which are rotational mass)? I'm sure you are right weight reduction is king in almost all things automotive. I just doubt they are going to make anywhere near a 13mpg reduction through weight even if they went to carbon tub minivans or w/e.

A light car is a fun car but this is about forcing companies to build EVs/Hybrids and remove gasoline performance options or go bankrupt. It all trickles down to turning everything into a boring, slow, front wheel drive Prius on bicycle tires under-steering it's way around to a steady stream of NPR or a 100K Tesla. Even light, small, low power RWD drive cars, like the afore mentioned Miata, suffer higher parasitic losses and are heavier due to drive lines/drive line rotational mass, it'll make those near extinct too.
 
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CA. Ok, I get your gripe now. Leave. Go somewhere where you can have all the fun cars and guns. It's a real shame that a lot of trends that permeate car culture today originated in California and are now illegal in California.
I don't live in CA, my governor is just a sleezy banker (by both profession and marriage) who really wants to be Newsome. Even if I were in Montana it wouldn't matter, CA is the reason my car has rush developed, highly restrictive pre-cats from 20 years ago. If a state with big enough market share demands it, the companies will comply and then the Feds will enshrine it... and this slow MPG creep is federal and is nothing new, it's just being ratcheted again to make it look like Joe Biden is doing something about the gas crisis he created, while he gets returns on his Chinese lithium holdings.

I see the writing on the wall dude, that's my whole internal autistic shtick and it's not just this, it's everything, our whole society. It's cars, it's 2A, it's sex, it's work, it's what you can drink, what you can smoke, what you can watch, read and say... That's why I'm here after all on this bumfuck corner of the old internet besieged by litigeous troons and pedophiles and DDOS bots. I feel like a modern day Cassandra struggling with what I understand at a fundamental level, I can't pretend it will all be okay, it wont.
 
Fuck CAFE bullshit. This just absolutely annihilates fun cars, this why there is no WRX STI anymore. You can't make AWD cars and have a sportscar, you can't make the big ass SUVs the moms want and still have a sports car. This is why Miatas and AE 86s are slow as shit. Fuck democrats! Come pry my V8 out of my cold dead hands you faggots!



Fuck iPhones on wheels, they are still using the same lithium tech, nobody has cracked solid state yet. Making bigger batteries or packing them into frame rails (as to make your whole fucking car disposable) is not advancement. Saving 2% charge via software trickery is not advancement. The amount of expensive lithium, copper and rare earth magnets (all of which are strip mined) needed to make them en mass will be astronomical.

Green is the color of slime and nothing more.
STI is going away because most Japanese manufacturers are trapped in the fucking 90s and can't evolve, which is why like 75% of high end Japanese sports cars and luxury cars are now developed in Europe or the states. They can't figure out how to bring their 30+ year old, flawed headgasket eating design into the modern world. Same as they couldn't solve body flex issues that were cracking windows, so their solution was to ignore it. When the old elderly Japanese auto ceos die off in the next decade and that entire nationalist, propaganda driven auto market dies, Japan will barely make anything but camrys anymore.

The BRZ/86 and Miata are supposed to be slow. Same as a current gen mustang can easily make over 1000HP, but doesn't from the factory because that wouldn't make sense, that's not it's purpose. GT86/BRZ and Miata are low end sports cars/sport compacts and are therefore slow and relatively cheap. This market is the only performance car market Japan does well.

Manufacturers knew this was coming years ago, and started adjusting as such. We're actually at quite a high point in auto manufacturing rn, and the US is currently BTFO the fun car market. We're Mass marketing relatively affordable, incredibly fast sports and super cars alongside a wide range of performance vehicles including corvette powered Sedans, tons of new offroaders, Street trucks, and others. Don't waste time focusing on the loss of a shitty Subaru lol.

On top of that the US still has all the lax mod laws, and even if they tried to regulate it, there's no infrastructure to do it in most states
 
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