Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[The Foldless Brain]

Unsourced claims, so doubt at your leisure, but it's too funny to not share.

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Clearly fake. It implies Chechens fight instead of spending every waking moment making Telegram videos.

 

[RedDelicious]

You can run faster without a rifle

>These Spartans even left their shields behind
>Left their shields behind
You know, this would normally make someone think about this a little harder.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

i know that the battlefield (the taiwan strait) would be within range of chinese coastal installations, including missiles and aircraft.
conversely, those same chinese coastal installations would also be within range of US missiles and aircraft, launched either from american warships or from installations on taiwan.

the US could never hope to successfully launch an invasion of china because the country is too big, the population too large, and the number of soldiers china could mobilize too huge.
but in a sea-based (or coast-to-coast) exchange of missiles and aircraft between warships and military bases, the US forces would achieve a decisive victory.

Maybe. It is great that we have Seawhiz and other crap to take out missiles, so we can shoot 99 out of 100 missiles but that last missile that gets through will put a ship out of commission.

Plus, they haven't exactly been ignoring drone warfare, how many drone swarms could they launch against a U.S. warship all at once?

 

[Marley Rathbone]

Clearly fake. It implies Chechens fight instead of spending every waking moment making Telegram videos.

It's Ramadan they are supposed to give alms to poor people.

 

[K-Hole]

Been a while since we had some crispy critters in here.

Spoiler: cooking with gasoline

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Don't really want to dwell on that shit too much. Not good for the psyche.

Just think, this is the very first war in the history of mankind, where the true brutality of war is laid bare for the rest of humanity to see. That's got to have some effect, if not now, maybe later. Perhaps for better, perhaps for worse.

This shit didn't happen in the previous wars of note. Not in real time. Not in full colour.

I know most people don't read this site, and even fewer read this thread. Less still click on that shit. Even I can't make if past the few frames. But the 'information' is out there. It's not nice. It's not meant to be nice. Hopefully this will drive humanity towards countenancing less of this shit. But I don't have much hope.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Unsourced claims, so doubt at your leisure, but it's too funny to not share.

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True or false, that's a checklist of Russian stereotypes.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

FTFY

No way, man, panicking soldiers have never ever left their weapons behind, everything that makes Putin look bad is a false flag.

 

[mr.moon1488]

probably their concern was swim better and not sink. I doubt they train their conscripts how to do that over wide rivers with strong currents without drowning.

>strong currents without drowning
That river looks barely chest-deep, which is a moot point anyway since you'd almost certainly die of hypothermia if you got soaked.

So the argument here is it's more likely that some Russian soldiers ditched all of their gear, including food, and weaponry unnecessarily to cross a river and then subsequently die of hypothermia. This is more believable than Ukies taking some captured Russian equipment out and filming it for propaganda purposes.

 

[DumbDude42]

Don't really want to dwell on that shit too much. Not good for the psyche.

Just think, this is the very first war in the history of mankind, where the true brutality of war is laid bare for the rest of humanity to see. That's got to have some effect, if not now, maybe later. Perhaps for better, perhaps for worse.

This shit didn't happen in the previous wars of note. Not in real time. Not in full colour.

I know most people don't read this site, and even fewer read this thread. Less still click on that shit. Even I can't make if past the few frames. But the 'information' is out there. It's not nice. It's not meant to be nice. Hopefully this will drive humanity towards countenancing less of this shit. But I don't have much hope.

similar information has been around for like a hundred years, going back all the way to the mass graves and piles of corpses accumulated during the trench warfare on the western front of the first world war. sure nowadays we have it in 60 fps full hd instead of grainy black and white pictures, but fundamentally it's the same.

 

[JosephStalin]

they were also dangerously low on ethanol after leavg their supply.


jokes on them the russians dont give out any informations to their soldiers.

A lot can be learned from what was left behind. State of issued equipment, any personal information, such as paybooks, left behind, any individual electronic equipment, condition of weapons left behind. Nothing is too small to check for possible intelligence value.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

Russian personal equipment abandoned by the side of a river in the marshes, looks like somebody had to swim for it.

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Jesus. I wonder what happened there? That's the sort of thing you'd expect to see after an out and out rout, not even a disorderly retreat.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

>These Spartans even left their shields behind
>Left their shields behind
You know, this would normally make someone think about this a little harder.

What, no, in a war where both sides are massive propagandists and known liars, we must take everything our particular side says as absolute truth. I'm really glad we didn't have social media during WWII, some people on here would be posting "Steiner Will Come!" in all caps like it's the fucking word of God.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

>strong currents without drowning
That river looks barely chest-deep, which is a moot point anyway since you'd almost certainly die of hypothermia if you got soaked.

It's murky

 

[mr.moon1488]

It's murky

So is your mum, but that hasn't stopped anyone.

 

[RedDelicious]

What, no, in a war where both sides are massive propagandists and known liars, we must take everything our particular side says as absolute truth. I'm really glad we didn't have social media during WWII, some people on here would be posting "Steiner Will Come!" in all caps like it's the fucking word of God.

You're right, but acting like there's no reason whatsoever for someone to ditch their gear is silly. "Drop your shit and run" has been a strategy for retreat since sticks and stones, and conscripts aren't the most loyal of soldiers even when they aren't being told to shoot at their neighbors.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

So is your mum, but that hasn't stopped anyone.

I'm just saying dude, you're insisting it's easily crossable when there isn't even a good view of it

 

[K-Hole]

I found this interesting. Gail Tverberg is a pretty clued in lady who used to post a lot at the Oil Drum. Now she has her own blog: ourfiniteworld.com

She has convinced me that what we are facing now is a resource war. It's about Oil now, but it will be about Water later. I'm pretty clued in on this subject, and I tend to to and fro about Peak Oil and all that. But a lot of what she says makes sense. This is a snippet from chat from her latest post.

Gail Tverberg says:

April 1, 2022 at 9:55 am

Zerohedge claims that natural gas flows into Germany have already started to reverse.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/ga...erse-gazprom-instructs-clients-how-pay-rubles
As Russian President Vladimir Putin ratchets up the pressure on Germany and its EU compatriots to either agree to pay for Russian gas in rubles, or face a devastating shortfall, gas traveling through the Yamal-Europe pipeline has started traveling in reverse, flowing eastward from Germany to Poland.
According to Reuters, physical exit flows at the Mallnow metering point on the German border stood at 2,691,220 kwh/h, according to data from the Gascade pipeline operator. That figure was slightly larger than the 1,451,155 kwh/h on Tuesday, before gas stopped flowing eastward.

 

[Techpriest]

Jesus. I wonder what happened there? That's the sort of thing you'd expect to see after an out and out rout, not even a disorderly retreat.

It sort of has been in some areas. Lots of reports of atrocities from the Russians in basically every village they took, lots of them done when they got the order to retreat.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

You're right, but acting like there's no reason whatsoever for someone to ditch their gear is silly. "Drop your shit and run" has been a strategy for retreat since sticks and stones.

Yes, but that's usually in the case of a rout. Looking as Brit and French maps, the Russians are moving shit around, but I'm not seeing a rout. It looks more like the Russians are leaving and the Ukies are just moving in after they've left. I'm not seeing the massive Ukie armies rolling in to crush all resistance before them. I'm not seeing anything that would force the Russians to leave with that kind of haste.

 

[Wy4M]

Unsourced claims, so doubt at your leisure, but it's too funny to not share.

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Lower left corner says grozny.tv. It's a pro-Kadyrov youtube channel
Since a few days Kadyrov is collecting and preparing humanitarian aid to send over to Ukraine so my guess is they took a still from one of the vids about it and thenmade up this story.
Here is the yt channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/tvgrozny/videos
I did not have the time yet to go through the vids.