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i keep forgetting LeeandLie still existed like i remember her during the early days of youtube, she still relevant or she just clinging to old fame like your guy from TFS the druggy one
she collabs with the Bao clique and some NijiENs, but she got her inital 7 minutes of fame on twitter because some people called her cringe for being a vtuber, after that theres deadass no other buzz or collabs ive seen
 
she collabs with the Bao clique and some NijiENs, but she got her inital 7 minutes of fame on twitter because some people called her cringe for being a vtuber, after that theres deadass no other buzz or collabs ive seen
Ahh yeah Bao group well explains everything
Kiara seems super salty about the 3D debut thing. I've never seen her like this about anything else
Yup the seething was real but this meaning a lot to her and calli able to when ever gotta make her pissed more
 
You're making a wrong assumption that they're thinking instead of mindlessly reacting to whatever looks like it could be racist (or framing it maliciously for SJW points).
Agreed with this. There's a contingent of SJW's that think that "white people" profiting off things that were created by "BIPOC" is enough to be racist. There's been a concerted effort to relabel racism from "Judgements based on skin color" to "Power + Privilege" as a means to make it so minorities can never be 'racist' to white people "because they don't have power". This is part of it in action.
- When the suggestion of doing a debut with all the girls in North America instead came up, Kiara said Cover will not allow a debut outside Japan.
- Company will not subsidize for travel or the rental of a studio outside of Japan.
- Kiara never said it out loud but she clearly inferred incompetence at the levels beyond the girls personal management

How can cover have a entire branch of talent mostly in the united states , disallow a 3d debut outside of japan?
its a 11 hour flight from LAX to Tokyo , and with covid good fucking luck getting in , yet they were fine with what ever they used to film their performances? God cover really is incompetent.

They clearly haven't thought any of this through. It feels like they are stringing EN and ID along, but at at least ID is getting an office and a potential place to do their 3D shit there. EN is totally fucked in comparison. For a company that wants to have their cake and eat it too, they sure aren't pushing hard for travelling Visas for their talents.
This is standard "Japanese companies doing Japanese things" bullshit. They have it in their mind "We are Cover Corp, and we do 3D debuts in a very specific manner". Which, as @Serbian Peacekeepers points out, requires a talent to take a multi thousand dollar trip to Japan in order to accomplish.

Hell, look how beloved the totally scuffed but 100% charming 3D collabs have been. The one year collab, the Halloween collab, the Christmas collab, both Dance Studio collabs, and the April Fools collab. Every single one would be considered in the top memories for HoloEN so far.

Japanese corporate arrogance fucking over foreign viewers once again. They "need" to do it a certain way. And that causes everything to be unnecessarily dragged out.
 
Spotted this randomly in chat. Guess the twitards don't have the money for spam bots like the chinks
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I do agree that an EN branch office is unfeasible, but we are getting into Year 2 of HoloEN . It's no longer a little experiment. Fuck, it hasn't been since Gura slammed out a million subs in two months. At some point these fuckers have to make strides, not tiny steps. I know there is stuff happening behind the scenes, but their inability to talk openly about even the most surface level things just leaves too many questions up in the air. Even the Talents themselves are in the dark. They have to either work harder to get exceptions made for clearly business related travel or trust in the girls that they can get shit done on their own. Hell, send out their managers. They were fine with sending Jenma to Germany to oversee Kiara at a convention. Why not send the managers and a couple staff to oversee a debut in NA.

A field office in US would be detriment since it will be public with business registration and union nonsense. It even worst in Canada. The stalking will be so bad that might be what Cover afraid of.
Ahh yeah Bao group well explains everything

Yup the seething was real but this meaning a lot to her and calli able to when ever gotta make her pissed more
The owl was also associated with Bao group when she started Vtuber before getting the golden ticket.
Spotted this randomly in chat. Guess the twitards don't have the money for spam bots like the chinks
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They are poorfag or Vtweeters. Calli can always go member only chat and siphon as much money from them then outright banned them.
Kiara's Membership stream was supposed to be a gaming/menu making stream. It's turned into a talking/menu making stream:

- Kiara is getting really antsy about 3D. Looking like Japan debut isn't happening in the near future. After July is a growing possibility.
- Her motion capture suit has to be sent to Japan before it gets sent to Austria. There's a good possibility that it will be a repeat of her PS5 situation.
- If the suit doesn't arrive in time, Ame is willing to give Kiara her old suit provided that her new suit arrives. If not she's shit out of luck and might have to rent a studio for her birthday
- Toying with the idea of flying instead to North America and doing it at Ame's house.
- When the suggestion of doing a debut with all the girls in North America instead came up, Kiara said Cover will not allow a debut outside Japan.
- Company will not subsidize for travel or the rental of a studio outside of Japan.
- Kiara never said it out loud but she clearly inferred incompetence at the levels beyond the girls personal management.
- Considering doing a limited 3D performance some time before her Birthday because she hates the idea of having to shelve the 3D after a paywalled performance for several months. Has been reading the comments of those who couldn't afford tickets and feels guilty about it.
Ame can just go for the Smol avatar and continue the Smol adventure. They can stick it up to Cover by making it more interesting than the so call “official 3D debut” or silent protest by bringing back their old identity back online (only Gura pulled filthy Frank so far). Ame did have a full on working 3D avatar before Hololive anyway.

Agreed with this. There's a contingent of SJW's that think that "white people" profiting off things that were created by "BIPOC" is enough to be racist. There's been a concerted effort to relabel racism from "Judgements based on skin color" to "Power + Privilege" as a means to make it so minorities can never be 'racist' to white people "because they don't have power". This is part of it in action.





This is standard "Japanese companies doing Japanese things" bullshit. They have it in their mind "We are Cover Corp, and we do 3D debuts in a very specific manner". Which, as @Serbian Peacekeepers points out, requires a talent to take a multi thousand dollar trip to Japan in order to accomplish.

Hell, look how beloved the totally scuffed but 100% charming 3D collabs have been. The one year collab, the Halloween collab, the Christmas collab, both Dance Studio collabs, and the April Fools collab. Every single one would be considered in the top memories for HoloEN so far.

Japanese corporate arrogance fucking over foreign viewers once again. They "need" to do it a certain way. And that causes everything to be unnecessarily dragged out.
Considered Uproar is just mediocre ESL nips and they think that they only some HoloEN who’s willing to collab with stars to get those stars up is just wishful thinking. They still haven’t figure out how the Stars get filtered hard by language. If they want to go ESL way then at least get some actual ESL like IRyS (I guess that’s too much to ask for their medieval mindset).
 
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Updates from the Calli Birthday stream:
- Calli chastising chat a bit for expecting all of Holo to be BFFs with each other
- She and Mel happened to be at the same event and they bonded over that, Mel super cute IRL confirmed
- Suisei likes copying Calli's weird movements, very much a "go with the flow" kind of person
- For some reason her hair disappears when looking through the sheer sleeves
 
Even though I was there for all of them some of these do surprise me looking back at it. Mainly how quickly Haachama, Noel and Matsuri got there, and how long it took Miko and Subaru in comparison to those. Haachama and Ame getting to one mill a day from each other is cute though.

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Edit: Also crazy to think back to the time when all of ID had sub 100k. The Peko effect is real.
 
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after that theres deadass no other buzz or collabs ive seen
She is the official VA for Marin in My Dress up Darling, Ai Hayasaki (the blonde) in Love is War, and apparently Velzerad in that Slime Isekai. She isn't that small of a fish to be just an orbiter of the Bao group.

Edit: I'll be honest and say I'm biased as I've been following AmaLee's music for years now, well before VTubing was a thing. She's been a streamer for 15 years I think at this point.
 
She is the official VA for Marin in My Dress up Darling, Ai Hayasaki (the blonde) in Love is War, and apparently Velzerad in that Slime Isekai. She isn't that small of a fish to be just an orbiter of the Bao group.
I know she does VA work and song covers, i was more or less talking just about her Vtuber sidegig as a whole
 
Pippa isn't far off from 30K subs. That's like the average for pre-EN Nijisanji right?

Do you think Sakana thinks back on it, when he's sipping a cane glass full of absinth in the afternoon. -" oh, this one's interesting, what a colorful resumé. She might even turn out to be our own Debiru or similar. I can't wait to watch cute little rabbit!"-
 
Calli gonna visit Kiara in June cuz she will be in Europe. She is definitely gonna be touring.
Her Dice twitter made mention that she's planning on doing a full tour beyond the Hawaii show, but only hinted at it being an NA tour. The Europe visit might be before or after the NA tour proper, we don't really know. She hasn't mentioned anything about Europe as DDK.
 
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