Disaster Death Penalty for Abortions Becomes Pivotal Issue in GOP Runoff in Texas - When you're so pro life you wanna end a ho

A bill that could allow the death penalty for women who receive abortions emerged as a pivotal issue in a state legislative race in Texas.

The legislation, which was filed last year by state Representative Bryan Slaton, would allow women who receive an abortion to be charged with assault or homicide, which carries the state's death sentence.

Texas already has one of the country's most restrictive abortion laws, but some Republicans have sought to add further limitations to the practice—while Democrats and some moderates have strongly opposed the laws.

The battle over how Republicans should handle the issue of abortion has become central in one GOP primary in Texas' 91st congressional district, which contains conservative suburbs north of Fort Worth. In the primary held earlier this month, state Representative Stephanie Klick was forced into a runoff with challenger David Lowe.

The two sparred over the abortion legislation during a Republican women's club luncheon on Friday, which was streamed on Facebook.

"I support Representative Slaton's bill," Lowe said. "Which was probably the strongest pro-life bill to ever enter Texas. The same law that protects Stephanie, you, me—I want those same laws to protect unborn children."

Klick, however, slammed the legislation, saying the idea of "sentencing women to death" is "absolutely abhorrent." Instead, she pointed to existing laws in Texas that have already reduced the number of abortions in the state.

"Abolishing abortion is important, but I think we can do that without giving women the death penalty," she said.

Lowe defended his support of the legislation, saying it has "nothing to do with the death penalty" and that he is "not even a fan of" it.

"Do we all agree that abortion is murder? Absolutely. There should be consequences for it," he said, pointing out that some women in Texas have traveled to other states including Oklahoma for the procedure.

In a statement to Newsweek, Lowe said that he supports "all pro-life bills including those that say unborn children have the same value as born children."

"Representative Klick, throughout her career, has exclusively supported bills that state the unborn are legally less than their born counterparts and has also helped stop legislation that would have banned child gender modification," he wrote.

The bill aims to make abortion a capital offense. It only includes exemptions for pregnancies that seriously threaten the life of the mother, but not rape or incest. It also instructs the state attorney general to "direct a state agency to enforce those laws, regardless of any contrary federal statute, regulation, treaty, order or court decision," according to the Texas Tribune.

Last September, a law went into effect in Texas that banned most abortions in the state.
The law ends abortions after a fetal heartbeat can be detected, which is typically around six weeks when a woman cannot even know she is pregnant.

During the primary, Klick received 49 percent of the vote—just shy of the majority needed to avoid a runoff—while Lowe won 39 percent. Regardless of who wins the runoff, the district is likely to remain in Republican hands, as former President Donald Trump won it by 20 points in 2020. The runoff election is scheduled for May 24.

Newsweek reached out to Klick for comment Sunday morning. This story will be updated with any response.

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Pretty much, yes. Starting with the Don't Say Gay bill hoopla, I've made it a habit to seek out legislation and read for myself.
I've been doing that for years. I can count on one hand the number of times a bill actually said what the MSM said it does. Or more accurately, I can't, because I don't have any hands with zero fingers on it.
 
I am sure this wouldn't be abused at all, nope not even, I mean look at mexico its teeming with women who have murdered, their babies, oh who the fuck am I kidding?
mexico has an imprison women for abortion law, and a lot of women get sent to prison for merely having a miscarriage's, that they suspect was abortion, its really hard to prove an abortion from a natural miscarriage. this will be abused, and many innocent women will go to their ends, for merely having a miscarrage. espeically if you go for the witch doctor diy route. I've known prolife people who were anti death penalty because they believed only god had a right to end a life, not humans, or the state. Also how would they penalize someone for going to another state to end a pregnancy? this is just tryanical, I used to think that people sperging over the handmaids tale was just sperging, but I am pro choice, I much rather have a young irresponisble mother abort than raise a kid.
you're thinking of El Salvador. Abortion is legal in most of Mexico in early pregnancy. The laws vary by state but their supreme court ruled criminal liability for abortion to be unconstitutional last year.

el salvador on the other hand likes to jail women for miscarriages. some of them got out

 
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Be pregnant
Excited because new mom
The stupid fuck gets stuck in the fallopian tubes
Not suicidal, so get ectopic parasite removed
Go home and eat ice cream
Get death penalty a week later
Drink 12 gauge mouthwash
I'm aware ectopic pregnancies are probably not counted as abortions under this law. I just wanted to make a dumb joke.
 
It'll be like that woman in Ireland several years ago where the dead baby will kill the mother from something like septic shock. They won't remove the dead baby - she'll just have to meet her maker like Junior did.
The bill has a provision for that. That case in Ireland was absolutely terrible - the foetus I think was technically still alive but not saveable and the mother in septic shock. Any law around this needs much better medical review - as people point out above all ectopic pregnancies are non viable and a good proportion can kill the mother. And if it does pop, it can kill you quick, so there can’t be any scenario where you need a meeting and time to decide if in this case she gets an abortion.
Personally I’d prefer there be no abortions at all, and life begins at conception, and no it’s not just a ball of cells… but I realise that there are cases where practically it is the lesser evil. I dont really blame anyone for aborting a baby with issues so severe they’d have a short painful life (although I wouldn’t do it myself.) or in cases of rape, of incest, severe abuse, or severe deformity/illness. Abortion is quite difficult to legislate I think it is a human life. The question shouldn’t be whether it is or not but whether there are specific cases and scenarios where the life of the mother is given greater value than the life of the baby.
 
you're thinking of El Salvador. Abortion is legal in most of Mexico in early pregnancy. The laws vary by state but their supreme court ruled criminal liability for abortion to be unconstitutional last year.

el salvador on the other hand likes to jail women for miscarriages. some of them got out

interesting how the most violent and unstable parts of the US/ world claim to care the most about fetuses
 
Abortion is the intentional killing of a human being. Either a woman who procures an abortion is a murderer, and should be punished as such, or we must admit she cannot be punished for this crime because pregnant women are mentally incompetent.
That's on you to decide, as males impregnate them. The argument is really about whether or not the fetus is a person. And we're not talking Lia Torres' 'I cut out the vocal chords of babies' development, but zygote level. Idaho and Oklahoma want to recognize a zygote, a freshly fertilized egg, as a full person. Just not capable of voting or property rights, mind you.

Life begins at fertilization, yes. You are a new cell. But you don't have a brain and you don't have a conscious. The heartbeat bills are disingenuous because the heart isn't even fully formed at that period and is a lob of flesh operating on electrical impulse. Likewise, the brain isn't even fully developed either. They're marking the personhood/life threshold at whether your heart beats when a taser could.
I'm pro-choice, but I support this law just because handing down the death penalty to those abortion fetishist feminists on Twitter would be funny and most deserved.
Maybe. The TikTok THOTS would get their due. But then the women who keep their personal issues private, who underwent unfortunate circumstances, would be targeted. That's what I'm concerned about. These laws will never be limited to abortion, mind you. These same guys railed against COVID mandates and forced vaccination - if they decide you should/shouldn't get a procedure, you will.
Would the man who got a woman pregnant be executed as well, or do they have no repercussions for their actions?
No. Child support is theft and socialism and those single moms are hos.
nah i'm not approaching this from a moralfag position, im looking at abortion in practical terms:
arbitrary abortion of healthy children, especially for selfish reasons, is bad. but targeted abortion of sick or deformed children is good.

a good abortion policy should promote births of healthy children, and prevent births of undesirables. killing women for wrongful abortion doesn't help with that at all, i believe that imposing a small prison sentence would be enough punishment to deter the vast majority of would-be aborters.
I find this to be a reasonable stance. I am pro choice but I am pro 'abortion in earliest stages'. There are women who get abortions as easily as they buy clothes and have a laissez faire attitude towards it - if you remember that girl in TikTok, the blonde, drinking wine while still pregnant, that serves as a good example' - and they should be reminded that they are taking this right for granted. Other women would otherwise not get them but are forced to.

Abortion is eugenic, and for that reason it should be kept.
Conservatives would be wise to steer clear from anything even associated with death penalties for abortion until it's banned. Then strap the baby killers to sparky afterwards.
On one condition: the men agree to stay in that child's life from birth to death, no abandonment, and if the baby is retarded they must pay out of their own pocket for its care. It goes both ways.
I am sure this wouldn't be abused at all, nope not even, I mean look at mexico its teeming with women who have murdered, their babies, oh who the fuck am I kidding?
mexico has an imprison women for abortion law, and a lot of women get sent to prison for merely having a miscarriage's, that they suspect was abortion, its really hard to prove an abortion from a natural miscarriage. this will be abused, and many innocent women will go to their ends, for merely having a miscarrage. espeically if you go for the witch doctor diy route. I've known prolife people who were anti death penalty because they believed only god had a right to end a life, not humans, or the state. Also how would they penalize someone for going to another state to end a pregnancy? this is just tryanical, I used to think that people sperging over the handmaids tale was just sperging, but I am pro choice, I much rather have a young irresponisble mother abort than raise a kid.
Mexico just legalized abortion. The funny thing is that its abortion policies are now laxer than Texas'. The 'death for abortion' policy was really only present in certain Mexican states/cities, the other cities had a policy where if you got it during the first trimester it wasn't an issue. They started liberalization of their abortion policies by granting low income women with unintended pregnancies first trimester, state supported abortions. The outcome was that they were less poor and more cautious about their pregnancies afterwards.

The miscarriage thing, I think, is the underlying problem. Miscarriages are an accident but in countries like El Salvador if you are accused of intentionally causing one it is murder. There have been cases in the US where women went to jail for having them. The counter argument is that they were meth/drug addicts and another, a black teen, was shot in the stomach during a bout of gang violence. There's a fine line between what they define as 'murder' and 'accident', and certain states don't really find a difference between the two.

Re: Hispanics being natural conservatives and Texas going blue: Hispanics still overwhelmingly vote Democrat, they have different ethnic interests, and Texas may well go blue due to demographics. They aren't helping their cases with these insane abortion bills.
 
The doctors carrying out the abortions, certainly. I 100% support their executions because knowingly do the grisliest, most barbaric shit to those babies.

As for the women, a lot of them were young, coerced by parents and doctors, and did not understand the gravity of what they were doing at the time. BUT, if we are going to argue that abortion is murder (which it is) then some of the mothers ought to be brought up on manslaughter charges at the minimum. There again, the fault lies mostly in the doctors and society as a whole for lying to these women.
 
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