Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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The DNC sends Obama's personal friend to consort with Zelensky at the Grammy's to manufacture some cultural consent so Americans can get ready to die in their proxy war. Complete fucking joke country. America is in total cultural collapse at the moment. Just a week after I shit on Cuck Schumer's relative repping the brand at the Oscars. America cannot survive another 20 years of getting raped by the military industrial complex. Expect a full Soviet collapse style balkanization with some progressive states not wanting to fund the military anymore and deep red states not giving a shit about some third world shit hole in eastern yuropovertyland. Don't hold USD.

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America cutting expenses and moving to easy to operate and deploy drone systems really puts the 4F nation in a position where it can play armchair general.

We really already do it with how we deploy the airforce to help out where we don't wish to put boots on the ground.

The real issue America is not united, and the idea of dying for the country is no considered "cuck"... and that's a good thing, I'd give this life for my country, but I'd rather try and be sneaky and shoot at the baddies with out my brothers being shot at themselves.

The real issue is the corruption within American industry right now, we have not put in the incentives enough to keep the technological workforce needed to Research, Develop, and Deploy these systems as American intellectuals have been brain drained into the worthless coding industry.

This war be good for us yo. It rattles the cage and rings the bell for defense without serious consequence and gets people thinking about the nature of empires, and how force is the only true way to have legitimacy, as Russia's seat on the world sage is sagging a bit too.
 
So. The Bucha revelations has lead to new calls for sanctions and direct miltiary intervention. Every bluecheck you can imagine is getting enraged over this. The issue is whether or not people are going to believe it, having lived through the Iraq War bullshit.

Give it 24-48 hours, and we'll see if the Russkies really did gun down all the men in Bucha or that the Azov battalion did it.
You just know these idiots are the same kind of people who like to preach about blm, fagotry, trump, etc and who call everything they find offensive with -ists and -ophes, they just revealed another one of their charming qualities, just like they hate every white person for being white, now they are starting to believe that they should hate every russian person because they're from russia.

All these politicians know their citizens who they rule over hate their guts, all of them are aware of it, so what's best to raise your public ratings than wanting to be the hero ukraine needs? sending them weapons, sanctioning the hell out of russia, they don't care if that affects their country, they want to feel like they're the heroes, the good guys, the ones morally above. Doesn't matter if food and gas prices get absurdly high for the average citizen, they don't care, they want to feel good.
 
Also we're meant to believe the survivors of this town (they still have a mayor and everything) just left their friends and family to rot in the street for a few days? Why would they do that? None of the story makes sense,

One of my thoughts was, when you're in a warzone and people are killed. Wouldn't you move the bodies outside, or even to the streets. So they can be collected. As opposed to leaving them wherever they fell.

There are just endless explanations we can think of. We're in the fog of war and have no idea.

Maybe the Ruski's were lining up civilians along roads and shooting them. Yet that makes no sense. They would know the footage would be used by Ukrainians. Yet maybe they did and didn't care.

Maybe they were shooting civilians lining the streets watching them leave. Yet why would civilians be watching them leave while they are being executed?

Maybe they are people killed by Ukrainians for being Russian helpers or sympothisers. Yet that also makes no sense, because why would they pass off their own crimes as Russia? Yet maybe they would.

Nothing makes logical sense.
 
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The US literally had no logistical problems for 8 years in Iraq except for one week.
If the US military was able to handle it inhouse they would not have required Haliburton to do the job. The US military could not get this job done without outsourcing it to third parties. The supply crisis only resolved itself in mid 2004, even then you can see Marines participating in Phantom Fury with woodland camo vehicles and vests.
Directly contradicted by experience in multiple countries
The US fled Iraq the moment it got a good opportunity and excuse. It outright got humiliated in Afghanistan.
The marines are going back to being marines because they expect they'll be used to land on chink islands in the next big war instead of having virtually indistinguishable roles from regular army units
The US Marines constituted about 25-30% of all ground forces between 2001 and 2013ish. A full third of the land force is doing EXACTLY what I described. Thanks for agreeing with me. The reason the MEU came about is because the Marines felt they required the heavy equipment to hold a landing site. This is no longer the case, light infantry paired with sufficient AA and artillery are just as effective as the massive battle wagon convoys of Desert Storm.
Those 33 F-22s are all first-generation and aren't used for anything but training and you can get the same training cheaper using other planes that are also still combat-approved. The oldest F-22s don't have the newest air-to-air combat systems they're used for ground-attack training. Now that the F-35 is the ground-attack plane the F-22 is doctrinally almost purely for shooting down enemy planes
Once again, thanks for agreeing with me that the military is trashing overly expensive weapons it can no longer sustain or have purpose for.
The willingness of the United States to spend money on military power has not lessened one bit gtfo
It has nothing to do with willingness of the oligarch class, its necessity. The current economic woes of the US are going to rearrange what Americans are willing to spend on. The business newspapers prognosticate a food crisis later this year globally because of fertilizer shortages, if its even half as bad as they predict it will instantly change what the US population is willing to tolerate. The Floyd riots and Jan 6th will look like fucking circus shows if there is a widespread food shortage in the US, also it doesn't need to be empty shelves, a massive spike in price is enough to trigger food riots and massive bloodshed. The crime wave, inflationary crisis, potential food shortages, the US is in an extremely precarious situation. German food markets just announced there is going to be a 30-50% on food starting Monday, shit is going to get real very quickly in the West.
 
Good news, you've been volunteered for drone bait around Kyiv then!

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This is apparently a decoy the Russians made to either try and fool drones, keep them from dropping on them, or cover their retreat from the air. It's supposed to look like an SA-9. I have to admit, they put some effort into it. Also I have to giggle at the duct taped "V" on the front.


Honest question, how do we know this was a Russian decoy and not something built for some 240p heavily compressed video of the Ukrainians pwning the Russians?
 
These dead bodies in Bucha look fake as fuck. They are all facing away from the cameras and just do not have that omfg somebody was shooting at me and i was running, got shot, stumbled and ended up all twisted on the ground with the contents of my bag all over the road. Shoes always fucking come off and trousers come down etc.
There are absolutely going to be war crimes on both sides becquse that shit happens but the common pics from Bucha look staged by someone who hasn't actually seen a street of people that have been perforated.
The media are all over this just the same as Saint George, BLM, Trump, Covid etc and i fully expect big names to start getting behind this. Nike, Playstaion etc will be hash fucking tagging nowarcrimesputin and instead of taking the knee it will be taking the lay down, or Do the Bucha. There is probably a team of advertising consultants working on the catchy parts right now. Maybe football matches will start with 22 players laying down on the pitch for some minutes!
 
We're going to see military start cutting expenses down towards cheaper light infantry riding around in Humvees and JLTV with TOW missiles attached plus maybe something like a Stryker vehicle with a cannon on it for building reduction on the spot. Piloted craft are going to fade away in favor of shitty cheap drones launched and controlled by infantry in the field like the switchblade. Artillery and AA platforms are going to exist but the heavy shit is going to go. We already see the USMC abandoning the MEU concept in favor of what they call littoral units which are exactly what I described. The air force is trying to shitcan 30 or so F-22 already. The US military and thus the rest of the world is heading towards cheaper military but this will come with far heavier losses.
Big disagree here. Wars between equals in the future will be won by whoever has the superior autonomous/semi-autonomous screen for their armies. This means spending will need to go up not down as these screening networks become wider, deeper and all around more comprehensive.
 
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