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Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread
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Langley needs to stop using Cold War boomer "Letters To The Editor" boilerplate and be more original.
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>Babies are dying in hospitals with anal bleedings
Lol good lord Reddit gets more deranged all of the time.
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Pro Ukrops are upset that Russia's northern front retreated from Kevin, and that means Russia's losing and in deep shit?
Have you already forgotten Mariupol? Would you prefer they did the same on the northern front as they did in the south? I don't doubt for a second they have the capability to do so either. What would make more sense is if they've already shelled all obvious military targets, depots, tied up Ukraine's northern army, had all the bridges and railroads turned to rubble, then got out.
I do think that they probably were hoping for a quick decapitation strike in the first few days, with Ukraine's military being crushed in days and civilians meeting them with flowers and fireworks, and that didn't happen. This is the second best outcome imo, as it leaves Kevin untouched and free from bombing, the front itself did not turn into a meatgrinder for both Russians and Ukrainians, but basic infrastructure and supply lines are fucked without it turning into another Mariupol.
If that is the plan, then it makes sense to retreat. Kevin isn't laying down and sticking its butt out, and there is no point in sitting around getting counter-bombed while being unable to strike back. ( There's enough footage of Uk artillery pieces shooting from inbetween highrises and commie blocks, no sense in raizing parts of the city if they're not going to claim it anyhow. )
The official version was they only wanted to demilitarize the country, and make Dumbass and Lukas independent. While a ton of us have speculated that the 'real' objective was in excess of that, blitzkrieging half the country and taking everything East of the river.. at the end of the day that was it, just all of us speculating. I don't recall Russia's MoD declaring anything of the sort, and it makes sense to me that they're regrouping to strike at the main bulk of the army at contested Dumbass and Lukas, from both north and south, without worrying about counter attacks as they've fucked most of this side of the country hard. Hard to counter attack when you've blown all your bridges and mined a whole bunch of roads, the same roads you gotta use now. In other words, they're achieving the objectives they originally stated. Hard to call that a loss.
Now lets talk about real damage.
United States have obliterated their international reputation. Our previous Petrodollar economy might have just fucking imploded. I'm personally already paying twice as much for gas, and saw increases in prices of food ( except for Walmart, how they manage to maintain 40 cent bananas per pound, I have no idea. ). A strength of our globohomo, the currency providers, are now facing real competition where visa and mastercard now have to fight China's and Russia's unionpay. There's now a looming energy crisis for all of the western sphere, and a looming food crisis for huge chunks of the world. Countries are preferring to use the rupee and the yuan instead of the dollar. Shit inflation has become even fucking worse. Ukraine itself is fucking devastated. Millions of people left. All that infrastructure, roads, factories, depots, electrical infrastructure, internet, television towers, everything, all have to be rebuilt. That's god damn expensive.
What damages happened to Russia? They lost McDonalds, Nikes, PornHub, and (according to many in this thread) a bunch of nigger-tier conscripts, muslims, and outdated Iraq level tanks. The rouble is also back to pre-war days. Bloomberg also estimates Rus exports will increase by 30 percent this year. They are also in a position where countries like Germany either freeze, or accept whatever terms Russia demands of them to not-freeze.
Why is it after the 'biggest, most comprehensive, most powerful series of sanctions that have ever been set forth in history of mankind', Russia is somehow more powerful and more prosperous, while I'm feeling the sting at the gas pump, and some individuals, like those in Germany and England, just received record high energy bills that genuinely threaten the poorest families with having to settle for either having a roof, or having electricity but no roof. What is this, Lebanon?
I'm not sure about winning or losing, but I certainly feel like, besides the average Ukrainian bloke who quite possibly either got his place turned to scrap, or now has to prepare for some Genuine Hard Times, we're somehow the second biggest losers, and we didn't even participate in the war.
Have you already forgotten Mariupol? Would you prefer they did the same on the northern front as they did in the south? I don't doubt for a second they have the capability to do so either. What would make more sense is if they've already shelled all obvious military targets, depots, tied up Ukraine's northern army, had all the bridges and railroads turned to rubble, then got out.
I do think that they probably were hoping for a quick decapitation strike in the first few days, with Ukraine's military being crushed in days and civilians meeting them with flowers and fireworks, and that didn't happen. This is the second best outcome imo, as it leaves Kevin untouched and free from bombing, the front itself did not turn into a meatgrinder for both Russians and Ukrainians, but basic infrastructure and supply lines are fucked without it turning into another Mariupol.
If that is the plan, then it makes sense to retreat. Kevin isn't laying down and sticking its butt out, and there is no point in sitting around getting counter-bombed while being unable to strike back. ( There's enough footage of Uk artillery pieces shooting from inbetween highrises and commie blocks, no sense in raizing parts of the city if they're not going to claim it anyhow. )
The official version was they only wanted to demilitarize the country, and make Dumbass and Lukas independent. While a ton of us have speculated that the 'real' objective was in excess of that, blitzkrieging half the country and taking everything East of the river.. at the end of the day that was it, just all of us speculating. I don't recall Russia's MoD declaring anything of the sort, and it makes sense to me that they're regrouping to strike at the main bulk of the army at contested Dumbass and Lukas, from both north and south, without worrying about counter attacks as they've fucked most of this side of the country hard. Hard to counter attack when you've blown all your bridges and mined a whole bunch of roads, the same roads you gotta use now. In other words, they're achieving the objectives they originally stated. Hard to call that a loss.
Now lets talk about real damage.
United States have obliterated their international reputation. Our previous Petrodollar economy might have just fucking imploded. I'm personally already paying twice as much for gas, and saw increases in prices of food ( except for Walmart, how they manage to maintain 40 cent bananas per pound, I have no idea. ). A strength of our globohomo, the currency providers, are now facing real competition where visa and mastercard now have to fight China's and Russia's unionpay. There's now a looming energy crisis for all of the western sphere, and a looming food crisis for huge chunks of the world. Countries are preferring to use the rupee and the yuan instead of the dollar. Shit inflation has become even fucking worse. Ukraine itself is fucking devastated. Millions of people left. All that infrastructure, roads, factories, depots, electrical infrastructure, internet, television towers, everything, all have to be rebuilt. That's god damn expensive.
What damages happened to Russia? They lost McDonalds, Nikes, PornHub, and (according to many in this thread) a bunch of nigger-tier conscripts, muslims, and outdated Iraq level tanks. The rouble is also back to pre-war days. Bloomberg also estimates Rus exports will increase by 30 percent this year. They are also in a position where countries like Germany either freeze, or accept whatever terms Russia demands of them to not-freeze.
Why is it after the 'biggest, most comprehensive, most powerful series of sanctions that have ever been set forth in history of mankind', Russia is somehow more powerful and more prosperous, while I'm feeling the sting at the gas pump, and some individuals, like those in Germany and England, just received record high energy bills that genuinely threaten the poorest families with having to settle for either having a roof, or having electricity but no roof. What is this, Lebanon?
I'm not sure about winning or losing, but I certainly feel like, besides the average Ukrainian bloke who quite possibly either got his place turned to scrap, or now has to prepare for some Genuine Hard Times, we're somehow the second biggest losers, and we didn't even participate in the war.
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The coastline of Donetsk today
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Russia = autarky with propensity to subsist on baked hedgehog and heat homes with firewood (which our government graciously allowed to pick up in the woods for free a couple of years ago, I am not kidding) if it helps to defeat the enemy, and the seemingly entire world rallying against us is not exactly our first rodeo.
You = presumably a citizen of a first world democratic country who is fond of their comforts and does not wish to sacrifice them for this particular conflict.
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I don't understand why people in this thread continue to call Russian soldiers conscripts with low morale and no training. Those who were sent to Ukraine are professional contract soldiers, many of whom gained experience in Syria. The rest are left in garrisons. If we were talking about the full mobilization of recruits, we would be talking not about 200,000 but about around 500,000 people.
Protistology
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No one does suffering better than Russians.
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r/Ukraine is a great place for cringe
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Arthur couldn't just sit at home and do nothing.
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r/ukraine - This is why Arthur, 32, has decided to put aside his drag queen outfit and join the battle against Russian invaders. Now he coordinates logistics in military administration. “I can’t just sit home and watch how people are killed, houses a
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Mind you, the USSR collapsed because of too much suffering in the end, so there is a limit. Oh to be a healthy economy with an existing middle class and a two-party political system! A man can dream.
I am not optimistic about how things will turn out. Somehow I do not see an actual shift in Russia's economy towards rapid industrialization so that quality sanctioned goods could be manufactured on the spot, only more twisted deals to import the necessary shit via shady intermediaries at double the former price, which is a road to nowhere in the long run.
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Footage from Ukraine has increased in production value. Now you can watch war in pov!
Special forces of the Russian Guard are working in Novaya Kakhovka against protests.
Shooting in the air and stun grenades
Special forces of the Russian Guard are working in Novaya Kakhovka against protests.
Shooting in the air and stun grenades
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> 1 thousand 4 million
I don't speak gook, but it looks like a typo and must've meant 1 thousand 4 hundred.
To put it into perspective, Russia does not sell gas directly to every EU country. Many buy it from Germany, who resell it to them from Russia.
So, if Germany does not play its cards right - half the EU will have to start eating beans. You better hope Germany is not too rash with its policies.
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Almighty Bukhanka
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"Logic can be met with logic, while illogic cannot—it confuses those who think straight. The Big Lie and monotonously repeated nonsense have more emotional appeal than logic and reason. While the people are still searching for a reasonable counter-argument to the first lie, the totalitarians can assault them with another." - Joost Meerloo, The Rape of the Mind
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thread https://nitter.net/ggreenwald/status/1510605612895330305#m
Ukraine government officials has lied so many effing times. Just like any government. But you can rest assured that this time they must be telling the truth.
Moreover, you can believe whatever nonsense/claims from Ukraine government officials. You can also believe Russiagate, "Apocalyptic" pandemic, Hunter Biden laptop "Russian disinfo", etc. All of these have one thing in common: it's "true" if you believe it. Just like Trans people. Fact, hard evidence, independent corroboration and forensics be damned.
Even Fake News NYT is better than that this time.
Pro-tip: If you are impressionable, I encourage you inoculate yourself against war propaganda by reading Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracey from time to time or daily if the symptoms are too severe.
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P.S. The post/line "Beware, Putin, the entire world is watching." in this thread is my favorite post. Especially the line was made after over 2600 pages. Russiagate, Pandemic, Russia-Ukraine war (continuation and escalation of the war in the past 8 years). Each time more and more people has gone insane, i.e. menticide (a killing of the mind). It's wave after wave of infection of Mass Psychosis. This line is the epitome of what happens after succumbing to emotional appeals.
Beware, the propaganda machine has gone into overdrive.
Michael Tracey (@mtracey)
Looks like we're entering a new phase of lobbying for US military intervention. As usual, spurred by emotional outbursts in reaction to the Ukraine government's deliberately-crafted war propaganda, which journalists and "experts" repeat as verified fact
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Michael Tracey (@mtracey)
For weeks, US media has been happy to take photos/video/claims produced by Ukraine government officials and present it as verified fact. They've abandoned all journalistic standards to assist the propaganda efforts of a foreign government openly lobbying for US military action
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thread https://nitter.net/ggreenwald/status/1510605612895330305#m
Ukraine government officials has lied so many effing times. Just like any government. But you can rest assured that this time they must be telling the truth.
Moreover, you can believe whatever nonsense/claims from Ukraine government officials. You can also believe Russiagate, "Apocalyptic" pandemic, Hunter Biden laptop "Russian disinfo", etc. All of these have one thing in common: it's "true" if you believe it. Just like Trans people. Fact, hard evidence, independent corroboration and forensics be damned.
Even Fake News NYT is better than that this time.
Pro-tip: If you are impressionable, I encourage you inoculate yourself against war propaganda by reading Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracey from time to time or daily if the symptoms are too severe.
Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald)
Journalist; Author, "Securing Democracy"; Co-Founder, The Intercept; Columnist, @CartaCapital; HOPE Shelter (@abrigo_hope); vegan; Insta: Glenn.11.Greenwald
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P.S. The post/line "Beware, Putin, the entire world is watching." in this thread is my favorite post. Especially the line was made after over 2600 pages. Russiagate, Pandemic, Russia-Ukraine war (continuation and escalation of the war in the past 8 years). Each time more and more people has gone insane, i.e. menticide (a killing of the mind). It's wave after wave of infection of Mass Psychosis. This line is the epitome of what happens after succumbing to emotional appeals.
Beware, the propaganda machine has gone into overdrive.
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Protistology
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Is that a Russian joke?
The Foldless Brain
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The Russian maximalist wants all of Ukraine's land. The Ukrainian maximalist wants all of the Russian people and he wants you to die to get it done.
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Oi, the US was the best place in the world when it had them. Obviously they were doing something right.
My point is this is what we should have been aiming for after the USSR collapsed, but got a 1-party nationalist government propped by a crop of robber barons who got the old country's wealth for a dime instead.
Grand Wizard Wakka
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Reddit: "Russia can't be trusted with their children. WE need their childen. <licks lips> To teach them things."
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