Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Die Dunkle Maus]

they could annihilate chinas/russias profesisonal military, especially air force and navy. but they could not pull off a land invasion.

Agreed, USA has the best ability to project power, and can probably handle either country anywhere in the world BUT their own territory.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Cope cage also works wonders against hand-thrown AT grenades, which they were expecting to be thrown from higher floors of buildings during urban combat.

The Cope Cages™ are designed to convince the tank operator he is safe so he doesn't pussy out of getting annihilated lets be real.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The Cope Cages™ are designed to convince the tank operator he is safe so he doesn't pussy out of getting annihilated lets be real.

Let's be real you could just attack with a sword

 

[Lookie-lou]

The Cope Cages™ are designed to convince the tank operator he is safe so he doesn't pussy out of getting annihilated lets be real.

also an old concept that goes predates this conflict too, and i mean the chicken wire basket above the turret too. Yanks and turks have used them through their various dramas. If they work or not, moral is all that matters. Being in armour in enemy territory is always a hair raising experience even if you have the best tank and apcs in the world.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

No I largely agree with you, I just think that the long-term prospects of weapons like the Javelin seem to indicate that their usefulness will likely degrade over time. Partly because of drones, but also because I think that it's going to be more susceptible to countermeasures in the future. If you think about it, if you find some way to make the top attack ability of the Javelin ineffective, it basically becomes a really shity traditional AT weapon.

Javelins in direct-attack are still a tandem warhead with 20" RHA penetration. Not sure how that's a shitty AT weapon.

I mean almost every Russian video I seen there is an RPG-7 in it. Not sure if you are low key dissing the Russians with that comment or not.

I swear, somewhere in this shitpile of a thread is a clip of Chechens firing off at least 5 RPG-27s at a defenseless building. I found this very amusing since I haven't seen a single Russian with a RPG-27.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Javelins in direct-attack are still a tandem warhead with 20" RHA penetration. Not sure how that's a shitty AT weapon.

I swear, somewhere in this shitpile of a thread is a clip of Chechens firing off at least 5 RPG-27s at a defenseless building. I found this very amusing since I haven't seen a single Russian with a RPG-27.

Because they're heavy as shit and cost a fuck ton.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Javelins in direct-attack are still a tandem warhead with 20" RHA penetration. Not sure how that's a shitty AT weapon.

I swear, somewhere in this shitpile of a thread is a clip of Chechens firing off at least 5 RPG-27s at a defenseless building. I found this very amusing since I haven't seen a single Russian with a RPG-27.

Usually they have no anti-tank armaments in the Russian videos unless its the Chechens

Because they're heavy as shit and cost a fuck ton.

Good thing the Ukrainians are fighting this war with the infinite money cheat on.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

>Russia invades Ukraine
>War stalls out with fog of war leading to ambiguous info overlaid with competing propaganda
>Retarded slapfights and whining about stickers ITT start increasing as a result
>Null gets sick of it all and deletes A&H
>Ho-ho-holocaust image is deleted unwittingly in the process



All according to plan.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

It sucks that the good guys (Russia) are losing, I hate the bad guys like Ukraine

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Because they're heavy as shit and cost a fuck ton.

Fair. I forgot to add "other than heavy as sin." For ambushing tanks at close range I'd much rather have AT4 CS launchers. Jav is heavier than 3 AT4 tubes, NLAW heavier than 2. If you don't need the range, they aren't worth it.

 

[LeChampion1992]

also an old concept that goes predates this conflict too, and i mean the chicken wire basket above the turret too. Yanks and turks have used them through their various dramas. If they work or not, moral is all that matters. Being in armour in enemy territory is always a hair raising experience even if you have the best tank and apcs in the world.

I mean American tanks the ones we used were fucking tough beasts to destroy during Iraqi freedom and enduring freedom. There are stories of Abrams tanks getting hit topside with an rpg-7 without the tusk armor and having the rpg leave a nice scoring mark on the top of the tank. Even funnily enough older stories going back to the gulf war with guys driving over landminds and wondering why the thing feels so bumpy.

 

[Disheveled Human]

I mean American tanks the ones we used were fucking tough beasts to destroy during Iraqi freedom and enduring freedom. There are stories of Abrams tanks getting hit topside with an rpg-7 without the tusk armor and having the rpg leave a nice scoring mark on the top of the tank. Even funnily enough older stories going back to the gulf war with guys driving over landminds and wondering why the thing feels so bumpy.

They learned to not fuck around with tank quality after the embarrassment that was the Sherman.

 

[mr.moon1488]

>Russia invades Ukraine
>War stalls out with fog of war leading to ambiguous info overlaid with competing propaganda
>Retarded slapfights and whining about stickers ITT start increasing as a result
>Null gets sick of it all and deletes A&H
>Ho-ho-holocaust image is deleted unwittingly in the process

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All according to plan.

The autism of Roskomnadzor focusing on a Hitler Santa meme on a site that has a Holohoax denial thread will never stop being entertaining.

 

[Gondola Enjoyer]

They learned to not fuck around with tank quality after the embarrassment that was the Sherman.

Oh, I see, it's all an elaborate ruse. You're not this retarded, right? You haven't probably spent 20 years online refusing to educate your retarded gorilla ass, instead choosing to just perpetuate boomer myths?

 

[LeChampion1992]

They learned to not fuck around with tank quality after the embarrassment that was the Sherman.

The Sherman was quite a good tank. It had the highest crew survivability in WW2, they tended to make it to the battlefield in significant numbers. When you look at the panther on paper it's the greatest totally destroyed tank. The reality of the matter is the Panther was a clusterfuck of engine failure with most having to be sent back all the time. Most panthers didn't make it back to the battlefield and were forced to be abandoned or destroyed. The T-34s we're made to be cheap and in large numbers. If you go to Korea the Sherman holds its own against the T-34/44 models. There is a reason Russian soldiers preferred American tanks and we saw Sherman tanks used well into the Balkans conflicts.

The Abrams tank was a replacement to the Patton tank which was meant to take on the T-54/T-62 head on. The T-72 was the Russian counter to the Patton tank and the Abrams is the replacement to the Patton tank.

 

[DumbDude42]

>Russia invades Ukraine
>War stalls out with fog of war leading to ambiguous info overlaid with competing propaganda
>Retarded slapfights and whining about stickers ITT start increasing as a result
>Null gets sick of it all and deletes A&H
>Ho-ho-holocaust image is deleted unwittingly in the process

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All according to plan.

>ho ho holocaust
>ho hohol-ocaust
was this old meme trying to tell us something

 

[White_N]

I don't like sand. It's coarse, rough, irritating, and it gets everywhere

 

[Feline Supremacist]

War is the province of men, Eowyn.

Spoiler: caution: death

Somewhere around Zaporozhye

 

[Disheveled Human]

The Sherman was quite a good tank. It had the highest crew survivability in WW2, they tended to make it to the battlefield in significant numbers. When you look at the panther on paper it's the greatest totally destroyed tank. The reality of the matter is the Panther was a clusterfuck of engine failure with most having to be sent back all the time. Most panthers didn't make it back to the battlefield and were forced to be abandoned or destroyed. The T-34s we're made to be cheap and in large numbers. If you go to Korea the Sherman holds its own against the T-34/44 models. There is a reason Russian soldiers preferred American tanks and we saw Sherman tanks used well into the Balkans conflicts.

The Abrams tank was a replacement to the Patton tank which was meant to take on the T-54/T-62 head on. The T-72 was the Russian counter to the Patton tank and the Abrams is the replacement to the Patton tank.

I mean it was very cheap to manufacture and sell, the US stopped using them in 57' because they knew they could do better. The design and purpose of them was for WW2 and they just did not match up well against German armor. But sure in other conflicts foreign countries used them and it preformed well enough for the value. Israel used them to good effect in the Yom Kippur war of 1973 when they were fighting the sand niggers. Again if it was so amazing why did they scrap the design for a completely new build? It had weaknesses, it was not as mobile and was quickly outmatched by increasingly heavier firepower.

 

[JambledUpWords]

The US needs Ukrainian waifus to solve the incel problem once and for all