The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

They shouldn't fuck adults but they will fuck each other.

That sounds like you think underage sex is a good thing, or at the very least, not a bad thing (which, let's be honest, means you think it's good). Do you think 14 year olds should be sexually active? Because you don't actually need to jump through all of these other hoops if that's the case. Just be honest.
 
That sounds like you think underage sex is a good thing, or at the very least, not a bad thing (which, let's be honest, means you think it's good). Do you think 14 year olds should be sexually active? Because you don't actually need to jump through all of these other hoops if that's the case. Just be honest.
I don't really care because it's none of my business. I just know that I was educated on safe sex before I was 14 and I'm thankful for it.

Stop trying to control people.
 
I thought we agreed that being a whore is bad. Now you're telling me children should be having sex?



What is this mysterious "dignified defense?"



Because adults allow them to. Not because it's a good idea. Although I do think that when someone like you says "it's gonna happen anyway," what you really mean is "I am fine with it and see nothing wrong there." Which is a hell of a thing to think about 14 year olds having sex, but I shouldn't be surprised to hear it from your "side."



And? Children should not have sex. The age of majority is 18. Ergo, people below that age should not be having sex. If you think people younger than that should be having sex, then get the age of majority lowered. Although I am curious as to why you think people below that age should be fucking. Usually people who express this level of interest in the sexuality of minors are considered pedophiles, or creepy at the very least, but when it comes to justifying abortion I guess anything goes.
How do you get underage sexual intercourse or child rape out of even 1% of what I asked? Sex Ed is supposed to be learning about puberty and finding out you didn't come from a stork. Stuff that should just be taught as part of biology in 5th grade. What the fuck kind of school did you go to?
 
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I don't really care because it's none of my business. I just know that I was educated on safe sex before I was 14 and I'm thankful for it.

Stop trying to control people.

So you admit that you do think it's good for 14 year olds to be fucking. Promoting child sex to own the cons. Again, doesn't surprise me coming from you. Maybe I should start responding to every "you just want to control women" with "you just want to fuck kids."

How do you get underage sexual intercourse or child rape out of even 1% of what I asked? Sex Ed is supposed to be learning about puberty and finding out you didn't come from a stork. Stuff that should just be taught as part of biology in 5th grade. What the fuck kind of school did you go to?

Do you think children should be having sex?
 
So you admit that you do think it's good for 14 year olds to be fucking. Promoting child sex to own the cons. Again, doesn't surprise me coming from you. Maybe I should start responding to every "you just want to control women" with "you just want to fuck kids."
I don't want to fuck kids, retard. I'm just saying that they are gonna fuck each other.
Do you think children should be having sex?
No.

Why do you support a party that does?

 
getting rid of sex ed increases teen pregnancies, the spread of stds, and abortion
so as an ambassador of satan i have to recommend getting rid of sex ed so the big guy can meet his delivery quota for terminated pregnancies and i can get a bonus
 
Do you think children should be having sex?
No. Let me look over my question to see where any sex that isn't two adults procreating is even implied.
Most people graduate high school at the age of 17-18. In your perfect world, does biology class skip over the genitals until the very end of 12th grade? What about telling them what to expect from puberty in general? By 18, puberty is almost over.
Most sexual thing in there is the word genitals, I guess. I reread that multiple times and couldn't figure out how you interpreted this the way you did. Let me check the other post.
How do you get underage sexual intercourse or child rape out of even 1% of what I asked? Sex Ed is supposed to be learning about puberty and finding out you didn't come from a stork. Stuff that should just be taught as part of biology in 5th grade. What the fuck kind of school did you go to?
Still struggling to find underage sex advocacy. Help me out here. Maybe you know me better than I know myself.
 
No. Let me look over my question to see where any sex that isn't two adults procreating is even implied.

Yeah, I don't think kids should be having sex either. So where do we disagree? Because when I said that we shouldn't teach children to have sex, and that we should instead teach them not to until they're adults, you expressed disagreement. Yet you seem reticent to explain exactly how and why you disagree with that sentiment.
 
getting rid of sex ed increases teen pregnancies, the spread of stds, and abortion
so as an ambassador of satan i have to recommend getting rid of sex ed so the big guy can meet his delivery quota for terminated pregnancies and i can get a bonus
Imagine being so stupid you need someone to tell you how weewee works. If you're a dumbo you should not be getting laid :smug:
 
Many things are fun and pleasurable. Yet there's a time and place for everything, depending on what you want, what you want to sacrifice or risk, and what that thing "is" in the first place.
which according to your puritanical world view must be married missionary lights off and only for procreation, shit the irony is the puritans had fucking methods of aborting a fetus in the 1600s its like I am listening to my catholic priest from child hood go off on why virginity a must.
Indeed. So profound is sex, that it's better done in the context where a persistent pledge of love is made.
I've had both, they're about the same, for some that its their love language for me its fun. then again you had neither so that in of it self is a cope.
people make love some people fuck.
fucking can be considered making love to some, or a fun time.
If this genre of argument had merit, teen/single-mother pregnancies wouldn't have skyrocketed from the 1960s.
well gee dumb dumb, people were fucking since ancient times, one only had to lock at the gratifiti that the romans left about having a maxismus penisus. could it be and may just me talking oh idk that around the 1960s the advent of the birth control pill was in full swing? which spurred the sexual revolution, which in turn led to women to feel more liberated in their sexuality, at the time the pill was new, and you know the pill requires to be taken exactly at the same time every day to be effective. its not that hard to fuck it up., its why I use shots instead.
here's a sense in which you indeed cannot only say "don't have sex", but not only is "don't have sex" not the only thing that's being said, but anybody who wants to teach any kind of sexual restraint is butting heads with an already highly sexualized culture where children are being exposed to hardcore pornography at the age of nine,
you can thank men for porn, their the main consumers of said porn, I am antiporn myself. Your a man so congrats, you played yourself.
young women are encouraged to allow their bodies to be used by those young men as a means to self-validate (or because they think that's all they have to give), WAP is an "anthem",
honey boo, we've been having sexualized songs since the 90s, and again this whole pressure to objectify themselves comes from again men who most benefit, what you fail to realize is men have weaponized female sexual liberation to their benefit. you act like this some random occurance but its the natural of consquences of men eqauting sluttiness to empowerment.
Teen Vogue is talking to teenage girls about anal sex, teenagers are being encouraged to have irreparable damage done to their bodies and endocrine systems in service of becoming the "big tiddy goth gf"/"uke"-- and all the while, there's no actual long-term relationship goal within many of these people, because none of them are being taught that such a thing is good to have.
your point? this culture has degenerated because of mans porn sickness...
men are mostly behind this shit, not women coping out and playing the game. I'm sorry I am not penalizing the women because unfortunately culture has indeed changed.
So, no shit "people are still fucking"-- but it's become more widespread, the culture around it has degenerated gravely,
which is porn sicks mans fault, but then again, its alway woman who has to bear the sin.
abortions wont stop the culture as it is, it'll just bring unwanted babies to the mix.
 
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Imagine being so stupid you need someone to tell you how weewee works. If you're a dumbo you should not be getting laid :smug:
excuse me i've written a 700-page essay on why i'm super great and a swell guy and just amazing and deserve to get the coochie, i'm no dumbo
it's just, you know, maidens these days, they don't understand my soul... anyways yeah who thought it was a good idea to make meat curtains and dicks and not include an instruction manual
 
I don't really care because it's none of my business. I just know that I was educated on safe sex before I was 14 and I'm thankful for it.

Stop trying to control people.
"None of my business" is such a cop out answer, but it's to be expected of someone like you. Troll or not nothing annoys me more than that argument.

While the act itself is hopefully none of your business the consequences of it sure as fuck are.
 
No I'm telling you that you're retarded for thinking just telling teenagers "don't fuck" will stop them from fucking

So you agree that children should not be having sex, but we shouldn't teach them not to? Square that circle for me. I have a sneaking suspicion this is leading up to another tacit admission that you think kids should be fucking after all.

I've had both, they're about the same, for some that its their love language for me its fun. then again you had neither so that in of it self is a cope.
people make love some people fuck.
fucking can be considered making love to some, or a fun time.

Let me see if I can get the insult format right for this.

"Tell me you're a whore without telling me you're a whore."

Did I do it right?

which is porn sicks mans fault, but then again, its alway woman who has to bear the sin.
abortions wont stop the culture as it is, it'll just bring unwanted babies to the mix.

Porn is degenerate and should be restricted as much as possible. Shocking for me to believe that, I know. But it's kinda par for the course with the whole "marriage should be the standard, casual sex is bad" thing.

your point? this culture has degenerated because of mans porn sickness...
men are mostly behind this shit, not women coping out and playing the game. I'm sorry I am not penalizing the women because unfortunately culture has indeed changed.

It is funny how much you pathologize men. You laid out in this very same post how casual sex is totally fine and it's "just fucking." Sorry, but women like you are also at fault here. Porn addicts are degenerates but so are you.
 
Let me see if I can get the insult format right for this.

"Tell me you're a whore without telling me you're a whore."

Did I do it right?
I never denied my whoredom.
Porn is degenerate and should be restricted as much as possible. Shocking for me to believe that, I know. But it's kinda par for the course with the whole "marriage should be the standard, casual sex is bad" thing.
but the attitude is blame the woman not reflect on why men want hypersexualized women in the first place.

It is funny how much you pathologize men. You laid out in this very same post how casual sex is totally fine and it's "just fucking." Sorry, but women like you are also at fault here. Porn addicts are degenerates but so are you.
I am a grown ass woman, who has engaged in casual sex not a hypersexualized teen starting to have sex because it was cool, I didn't even lost my virginity until 18, there wasn't as much pressure to be a baddie egirl in the early to late 2000s as much as it was now, that shit sprung up long after I turned into an adult. men consume only fans, girls make money off only fans, that shit is seen as glamourous as kids.
as a former whore, I can tell women into the sex trade congregate where the market is, if men stopped using only fans suddenly moved to a new platform for their coomsumption the women will surely follow.
its men mostly that drive demand for sex work related services everything from street walking up to the most benign shit, men are at fault for creating and setting the tone, some women and girls follow, what you fail to realize is that, if men stopped buying sex work related things then this shit would dry up. but that would require some actual reflection and maybe some self realization. its much easier to blame the woman at the end of the day.
this whole shit just reeks of individual sin.
when men put a price tag on some women, and that becomes popular, then that makes all men see women as things to buy.
 
which according to your puritanical world view must be married missionary lights off--
Get a grip.

shit the irony is the puritans had fucking methods of aborting a fetus in the 1600s
...why wouldn't they? It's a medical procedure that sometimes had to be done in order to save the mother's life.

Puritans were also stricter about the matter than the Roman Catholic Church (at least during the 1600s) because they condemned the termination of a child even before their "quickening", believing ensoulment occurred at conception.

well gee dumb dumb, people were fucking since ancient times
Respond to comments given the context of the entire comment instead of flying off the handle every time you think you "have" someone.

could it be and may just me talking oh idk that around the 1960s the advent of the birth control pill was in full swing? which spurred the sexual revolution, which in turn led to women to feel more liberated in their sexuality, at the time the pill was new, and you know the pill requires to be taken exactly at the same time every day to be effective.
What does the cause of the skyrocket matter? That's not the point. What is the point is that you can't say that "people have always been having sex and so you can't merely say to not have sex", when "don't have sex" isn't all that's said, and when attitudes have clearly changed such that people are having more premarital sex than they were before.

you can thank men for porn, their the main consumers of said porn
and again this whole pressure to objectify themselves comes from again men who most benefit, what you fail to realize is men have weaponized female sexual liberation to their benefit. you act like this some random occurance but its the natural of consquences of men eqauting sluttiness to empowerment.
men are mostly behind this shit, not women coping out and playing the game.
which is porn sicks mans fault, but then again, its alway woman who has to bear the sin.
men are at fault for creating and setting the tone, some women and girls follow,
when men put a price tag on some women, and that becomes popular, then that makes all men see women as things to buy.
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Just shut up.

At no point was it suggested that the cultural shift of the 60s was a "random occurrence", but there's no point to any of this conversation if you're going to seriously minimize the agency of women participating in the cultural degeneration, even as they were at the vanguard of the feminist and free love movements normalizing it. Your horseshit comment is all in response to a comment where I shot at both men and women and criticized a porn industry staffed and patronized by both men and women. Even if you wanted to ignore the women who by themselves equated sluttiness with empowerment, whose damn fault is it that women all over accepted such a proposition? Even if you wanted to ignore the women who by themselves equated sluttiness with empowerment, who's cooperating with the men to deliver such messages?

And don't give me that nonsense about "they're preying on young women!"-- even a teenager is capable of knowing why prostitution is bad, and why they shouldn't trust shady strangers soliciting them. Well, they should, but you believe that we shouldn't expect that of women.

Are women really that gullible that they can't even tell when they're doing damage to their bodies, minds, and/or souls? Why should we seriously listen to people who can be that unaware and are easily led into prostitution, or prostitution by proxy? Why even bother talking about autonomy when you insist that women shouldn't be held responsible for what they do? Why should agents that can't be held responsible for what they do out of their unrestrained free will also be considered to be autonomous?
 
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