Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
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    Votes: 378 16.0%

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The Luftwaffe were also fucking autistic about dive-bombers and didn't have an equivalent of capable heavy bombers like the Lancaster or B-29 Super-Fortress which greatly hampered any sort of bombing campaign.

The Allies dropped more bombs on average in one day on Germany in 1944 compared to whatever piddly shit the Germans did over the entire Blitz.

I seem to remember that the best moment of the German bomber fleet was during the initial stages of the battle of Stalingrad and I read that they reduced the city to rubble and that they killed 40.000 civilians and many thousands of soviet soldiers in the process.

Of course, it pales in comparison to the scale of the bombing of Tokyo which killed more than 100.000 Japanese (granted the city was made of wood.)
 
In further update on the whole "Russian troops in Chernobyl were halfwits who never heard of radiation" thing, according to the State Agency of Ukraine on Exclusion Zone Management, the troops that took over Chernobyl looted a couple of laboratories for souvenirs:

They also apparently looted some computers and office equipment from the offices and lab of the Institute for Nuclear Safety.

You might want to take their report with some extra grains of salt given their editorializing at the end of their press release mentions the Darwin Awards. Still if the claim that they looted radioactive material from the labs is true, and if they did take it with them instead of being forced to discard it somewhere in the area by someone with a working brain, then the "Russian troops fatally irradiate themselves at Chernobyl" bingo square has a new lease on life.
Reporters for Reuters also toured the exclusion zone. The morons had set up a command post in the Red Forest. The reporter found a discarded Russian ration pack, held his Geiger counter up to it and it started shrieking. According to the dude they interviewed, it was actually worse then just the red forest. The Russian Troops also tried to enter the Reactor 4 containment area (Zone of high danger).

 
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I seem to remember that the best moment of the German bomber fleet was during the initial stages of the battle of Stalingrad and I read that they reduced the city to rubble and that they killed 40.000 civilians and many thousands of soviet soldiers in the process.

Of course, it pales in comparison to the scale of the bombing of Tokyo which killed more than 100.000 Japanese (granted the city was made of wood.)
Even the US Army AF knew in any other war the firebombing of Japan would be called a war crime, like the Dresden bombing. US pilots were really shocked by the rabid hatred of Germans on the British side when they were tasked to partake. We don't hate the Japanese, never really did, and there's loads of Americans with German ancestry.

It isn't until recently that I understood how entrenched these ancient feuds are in Europe and I have never been so grateful to have been born in the USA.
 
This is one of the reasons I argue that if Japan had waited at least another year to launch Pearl Harbor, there were probably better than 50/50 chances of the Axis winning WW2.
Japan couldn’t coordinate with itself at the time, let alone the Germans. Their Navy and Army hated each other’s guts.
 
Even the US Army AF knew in any other war the firebombing of Japan would be called a war crime, like the Dresden bombing. US pilots were really shocked by the rabid hatred of Germans on the British side when they were tasked to partake. We don't hate the Japanese, never really did, and there's loads of Americans with German ancestry.

It isn't until recently that I understood how entrenched these ancient feuds are in Europe and I have never been so grateful to have been born in the USA.
For about 4 years we hated the japs even more than Russians and Ukrainians do right now. The Pacific war gets glossed over other than the major battles mostly, but it was brutal. Send skulls home to your girlfriend, mount a head on your tank, and joyfully burn them alive brutal. Ffs Halsey even said that by the end of the war Japanese would be a language spoken only in hell.
 
Even the US Army AF knew in any other war the firebombing of Japan would be called a war crime, like the Dresden bombing. US pilots were really shocked by the rabid hatred of Germans on the British side when they were tasked to partake. We don't hate the Japanese, never really did, and there's loads of Americans with German ancestry.

It isn't until recently that I understood how entrenched these ancient feuds are in Europe and I have never been so grateful to have been born in the USA.
Yeah European blood feuds are the shit of legends never have I seen so much hate for people so close to eachother for transgressions made 50-400 years ago.
 
Even the US Army AF knew in any other war the firebombing of Japan would be called a war crime, like the Dresden bombing. US pilots were really shocked by the rabid hatred of Germans on the British side when they were tasked to partake. We don't hate the Japanese, never really did, and there's loads of Americans with German ancestry.

It isn't until recently that I understood how entrenched these ancient feuds are in Europe and I have never been so grateful to have been born in the USA.

Yes, imagine if the native population was never wiped out by disease, your decades long and bloody war against the Seminoles would have been a walk in park compared to the wars against a massive native population.

You were lucky.
 
For about 4 years we hated the japs even more than Russians and Ukrainians do right now. The Pacific war gets glossed over other than the major battles mostly, but it was brutal. Send skulls home to your girlfriend, mount a head on your tank, and joyfully burn them alive brutal. Ffs Halsey even said that by the end of the war Japanese would be a language spoken only in hell.
It also ended with the strategic use of nuclear weapons. Don't get much more brutal then that.
 
Yes, imagine if the native population was never wiped out by disease, your decades long and bloody war against the Seminoles would have been a walk in park compared to the wars against a massive native population.

You were lucky.
Our locust population got wiped out too so no crazy bug swarms to eat our crops when ever they fuck too much.
 
For about 4 years we hated the japs even more than Russians and Ukrainians do right now. The Pacific war gets glossed over other than the major battles mostly, but it was brutal. Send skulls home to your girlfriend, mount a head on your tank, and joyfully burn them alive brutal. Ffs Halsey even said that by the end of the war Japanese would be a language spoken only in hell.
I met a lot of those old Pacific War vets, many settled in California after they were discharged. The Solomons, New Guinea, Philippines, Guadalcanal, Saipan and then of course Okinawa, they told us as much as they thought they could get away with. And then sometimes they just told us. It really was brutal and savage. Then there were stories like this guy. I can't judge what a man had to do to survive under those circumstances, I hope I never have to find out.
 
That was a sweet mercy compared to what an invasion would have done. Japan probably wouldn't have even hit 100,000,000 population by now with a good birthrate if we went through with the invasion.

Yeah, the U.S. at that point was taking it's gloves off and was considering using more nukes and even considering the mass use of chemical weapons like gas and others.

Okinawa was really America's moment in which it was willing to go psycho and fucking insane to not experience the horrifying casualties of Okinawa ever again.

Of course, American casualties in Japan would have been 10 times worse than Okinawa and the Japanese suffering would have been 100 times worse still
 
I'd kill for a gallon of gas too.
It’s like almost two Klondike bars.
I met a lot of those old Pacific War vets, many settled in California after they were discharged. The Solomons, New Guinea, Philippines, Guadalcanal, Saipan and then of course Okinawa, they told us as much as they thought they could get away with. And then sometimes they just told us. It really was brutal and savage. Then there were stories like this guy. I can't judge what a man had to do to survive under those circumstances, I hope I never have to find out.
I spoke to a lot of vets when I was younger. I had the general impression that the Pacific was nastier.
Yeah, the U.S. at that point was taking it's gloves off and was considering using more nukes and even considering the mass use of chemical weapons like gas and others.

Okinawa was really America's moment in which it was willing to go psycho and fucking insane to not experience the horrifying casualties of Okinawa ever again.

Of course, American casualties in Japan would have been 10 times worse than Okinawa and the Japanese suffering would have been 100 times more worse still
yeah we were going to use chemical weapons. It would’ve been fucking gnarly.
 
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