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Oats12345 said:
I was going to say aren't Etha Ralph (I don't know much about him because I don't go on his thread) and Nick Cannon both liberals? Aren't those the men the pro-life movement call out for their reklenles and for surpporting abortion simply because they don't want to face their consequences?


I think Nick Cannon should be force to pay for all his children. You did the crime so now you have to pay for the consequences. This is the veiw many pro-lifers have
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He doesn’t have a thread, he has a subforum.

He’s never held a job despite being in his late thirties. He might have pedophillic tendencies based on Soph and his first baby momma. He’s a severe alcoholic that abuses pills too at bare minimum. He released a sex tape where sticks his thumb in a girls ass and huffs it. He went to Portugal to spite an ex-cohost and immediately got his shit literally curbstomped for being an obnoxious retard. All in the span of about 2 years.

And on and on and on.

He’s probably the biggest font of content since Deagle Nation.
 
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Oats12345 said:
And I really can't stand pro-abortion people like you . Who go "we are the majority!!!!!!" When your not and use people like Ethan Ralph as a excuse for why pro lifers are offer. Fuck atheist scum like you. I bet Planned Parenthood is your best friend. Fuck you for surpporting killing innocent babies. I hate scumbags like you, can't wait to prove you wrong in the midterms faggot!!

Most people are pro-life you worthless faggot. Pro-choicers are scumbags who no one trusts since they openly worship plan Parenthood.

Edit: sorry if I blow up on you. But I can't stand people who make excuses.
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Holy shit dude, you need to calm down and not assume that the extreme represents the norm. I find abortion to be wrong and would advocate for alternatives and for some restrictions, but ultimately I would still consider myself pro choice. There are good reasons to have an abortion, but abortions shouldn't be celebrated as a brave act. I suspect that this is a view shared by a majority of people.

Ultimately, this shouldn't matter, because abortions should be a states rights issue and the federal government shouldn't be involved whatsoever
 
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Beavis said:
The current spin is “it wasn’t as bad as it could have been!” Will the feds ever allow a double digit inflation rate to be reported?
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No. Anything that makes them look bad, even if it's true, is an absolute no-no for the Feds/PTB. It doesn't matter though. Anybody with an IQ above room temperature know it's higher than 8.5%, for God's sake.
 
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Blacklight said:
That is true. However in some places like Idaho, and Oklahoma they're just going out right "No abortions at all unless it's rape or incest" and some crazy bastards are saying they shouldn't be allowed an abortion unless she's about to die. Not to mention some others are suggesting banning things like Plan B because it promotes "degeneracy". The solution to a massive swing of the pendulum isn't wretching it all the way to the other side, it's trying to stop it in the middle.
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Most of the time, abortions are not performed because of rape or the health of the mother.

And IIRC, many of the abortion restrictions being passed in Red states are similar to those of abortion laws in many EU countries, where it's prohibited after like the first trimester.
 
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Blacklight said:
However I also think the right's most extreme position of no abortions for any reason except rape, incest, or the mother's life is in danger is also insane as well.
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This is not the most extreme position. Depending on how well polls are worded, this sentiment or something similar is the plurality opinion, held by (I think) a majority of self-identified pro lifers and about a quarter of self-identified pro choicers. Marist was able to get a majority of respondents to answer this way, if you believe them.

It's not really an insane position, either. It's based on well-established principles of Western morality, i.e. you can only use deadly force against another person if your own life is in danger or to stop a violent felony. The rape and incest thing doesn't really fit within that framework, but it can be argued a pregnancy continues the harm from the original felony. Absent this justification for deadly force against the fetus, the overriding moral concern is the parents' responsibility to care for the child.
 
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soy_king said:
Holy shit dude, you need to calm down and not assume that the extreme represents the norm. I find abortion to be wrong and would advocate for alternatives and for some restrictions, but ultimately I would still consider myself pro choice. There are good reasons to have an abortion, but abortions shouldn't be celebrated as a brave act. I suspect that this is a view shared by a majority of people.

Ultimately, this shouldn't matter, because abortions should be a states rights issue and the federal government shouldn't be involved whatsoever
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If you look at my posts after that I rightfully acknowledge that I acted like a sperg.
 
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Lil late, but I had to share.

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CBS poll came out 2 days ago about Biden's approval. Now, while nothing special about the graph, who they polled to get those numbers is the real interesting part.

It wasn't likely voters. It wasn't registered voters. Hell, it wasn't even adults. It was residents.

No verification on if these people can vote, or if they are the age to vote, or if they're just vacationing from somewhere else for the summer. It must be fucking brutal to fudge the numbers and still come up so low.
 
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Blacklight said:
However I also think the right's most extreme position of no abortions for any reason except rape, incest, or the mother's life is in danger is also insane as well.
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No, those are legit instances when an abortion is appropriate. Having unrefundable tickets to Banaroo isn't a legit reason to end a life.
 
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