Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Hüftpriester]

 

[Superman93]

A long thread but word to read.

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https://twitter.com/tiffin1963/status/1512804018220937228

https://archive.ph/mjzz0

This guy is retarded and these are extremely shitty and stupid demands that I even the most pussified of politicians would never agree to.

1. You illegally annex and take it by force, fine. But don't be upset when they turn off the water on your dumbass. That's like me squatting in someone elses house and then complain when the city turns the water off.
2. Russia refused to follow the original Minsk agreement so Ukraine is under no obligation to give a shit about following it now.
3. Lmao after this invasion stunt they pulled do you really think they're gonna wanna stay neutral after this?

 

[ulsterscotsman]

Just so that you understand how the same event is perceived from different perspectives.

Russia:

In Tallinn, Ukrainian women want to go to a rally in their bloody underpants and with bags on their heads.

The action is timed to coincide with the events in Bucha and the invasion of Russia.

Ukraine:

In Estonia, women came to the Embassy of the Russian Federation to protest the mass rape of Ukrainian women by Russian soldiers.

Strong photography!
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Can women ever protest without exposing themselves in anyway?

 

[Wy4M]

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[Borscht]

A long thread but word to read.

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https://twitter.com/tiffin1963/status/1512804018220937228

https://archive.ph/mjzz0

He is not wrong, but I find his predictions a bit too optimistic. It's not like the US can actually lose in this struggle, it is literally too big to fail. You can't win against the house because it makes the rules, and the US has been "the house" for almost a century now.

 

[Ted_Logan]

Ok are we heading in ww3 or not?

 

[Orange Man Costume]

So it looks like Mariupol is about to fall.
It hold out longer then I was expected.
Also, it is clear that Sweden and Finland are going to send in application for joining NATO in June.
Thanks Putin and your faggot followers. Now the last countries in Northern Europe is joining NATO.

When Mariupol did/will fall kind of depends on where the goalposts are, weeks ago was when the Russians claimed the command structure and organization of the defense collapsed, since then it mostly seemed to be about clearing out specific areas/buildings and the Ukies trapped inside them, something the Russians seem to be doing pretty slowly.

Has this been posted previously? I can't vouch for its accuracy, I haven't checked the figures.

I've also been indisposed since approximately last thursday... Have I missed any interesting developments? I suppose I could read the thread since then, but it's over a hundred pages of what is likely to mostly be sperging.

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IIRC RWA doubted the 90% losses, suggested 2/3 vehicle losses for the Ukrainians was more realistic.

That's also just his opinion, and it probably doesn't account for all the old aircraft/vehicles NATO countries are shipping over, which would bring their numbers back up somewhat. I doubt any official source is going to be honest and guessing based on footage is probably the best anyone can do.

Also if anyone misses @RWApodcast's antics, he's move to telegram since his Twitter got jannie'd.

 

[KonradCruise]

@Getting tard comed thank you for that amusing fairy tale, it was worthy of Pepe Escobar

The complete lack of connection with reality was the best part

His interpretation as you call it is utter cope that Russia isn't completely technologically outclassed by Murica

The experience of Israeli F-35s penetrating Russian air defense systems in Syria at will, the experience of Russia being utterly unable to disrupt American communications and sensor systems in Syria despite Russia's great EW efforts there aimed at the American forces making it the most intense EW battle in history, the thousands of hours of drone footage from Ukraine blowing Russians to kingdom come, the ability of Ukrainian forces to coordinate defense, all show the hilarious cope

You can easily tell these claims are full of shit when you see "Russia has EW at the squad level, US barely has it at the divisional level" which shows either the extreme ignorance or the extreme mendacity of the speaker. Rarely have I seen such silly propaganda

believing Russia has EW properly implemented across the squad level is hilarious cope when most of them lack gun sights, NVGs and rations within expiry date.

 

[draggs]

"Ukraine soldiers spread pigs fat on the artillery shells. No like they are islamophobic or anything. Tbh after the executions and tortures of POW we have seen this doesn't surprise me any more."
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https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/1711

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Kadyrovite running dogs btfo

 

[ARghEAT]

Ok are we heading in ww3 or not?

Most likely not. There's no real reason for anyone else to get properly involved (other than by supplying Ukraine) other than "muh democracy", and no other country seems to have made any major steps towards actually deploying their own forces in Ukraine.

 

[Simpadoo]

Why then is a US military officer saying all that at West Point lecturing a class? Plus Russia kicked out the US airforce on Syria once they decided to get involved. Russia ended that situation, not the USA.

You didn't actually read the site. I ask people actually go through his article. It's well sourced and if there's a problem with the sourcing deal with that instead of hand waving it away. Please. Thanks.

He didn’t have time: a particular urinal had a stain that would not come out and needed extra TLC to meet the German master’s approval.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Aren't Russia and Ukraine where some of the largest sources of 7.62/5.45 are or used to be?
Who's got enough capacity to manufacture that much steel case?

Any of the former Warsaw pact countries could they all have decent ammo manufacturing capabilities.

 

[Orange Man Costume]

Ukrainian marines in Mariupol try to break out and flee, get destroyed by DPR artillery before leaving the city. (Source)

Also it's loud.

 

[kuuu]

Most likely not. There's no real reason for anyone else to get properly involved (other than by supplying Ukraine) other than "muh democracy", and no other country seems to have made any major steps towards actually deploying their own forces in Ukraine.

I still think that there is a chance for a Polish peacekeeping mission in Western Ukraine. And I’m not implying a direct confrontation between them and Russian forces.

 

[draggs]

He didn’t have time: a particular urinal had a stain that would not come out and needed extra TLC to meet the German master’s approval.

The vatnik's face I was using couldn't handle it I had to go get another one

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

It's not like the US can actually lose in this struggle, it is literally too big to fail.

So was the British Empire and the USSR.

 

[Borscht]

So was the British Empire and the USSR.

Both were being plagued by systematic issues before collapse that could no longer be ignored (uppity colonies, gruesome lack of consumer goods, etc.)

The US still looks pretty robust to me, Biden's fascinating economic policies and tranny ministers of healthcare notwithstanding.

 

[JosephStalin]

@Getting tard comed thank you for that amusing fairy tale, it was worthy of Pepe Escobar

The complete lack of connection with reality was the best part

His interpretation as you call it is utter cope that Russia isn't completely technologically outclassed by Murica

The experience of Israeli F-35s penetrating Russian air defense systems in Syria at will, the experience of Russia being utterly unable to disrupt American communications and sensor systems in Syria despite Russia's great EW efforts there aimed at the American forces making it the most intense EW battle in history, the thousands of hours of drone footage from Ukraine blowing Russians to kingdom come, the ability of Ukrainian forces to coordinate defense, all show the hilarious cope

You can easily tell these claims are full of shit when you see "Russia has EW at the squad level, US barely has it at the divisional level" which shows either the extreme ignorance or the extreme mendacity of the speaker. Rarely have I seen such silly propaganda

Am sure there's some truth to all the info presented. Yes, we do lose planes, but we are actively employed doing missions worldwide 24/7/365.

More on the "lost" F-22s:

https://news.yahoo.com/tyndall-air-force-bases-remaining-194114159.html

More on the "lost" AWACS:

https://www.airforcemag.com/air-force-to-retire-half-its-awacs-fleet-most-jstars-leaving-small-gap-in-isr/

As an aside, four of the five largest air forces in the world, in terms of numbers, are US. Posted this a while back. The Russians are between two US air forces, and much smaller than the USAF. The USAF's capabilities far outstrip the Russians.

On the face of it, the Indians did well against the RAF. However, don't know the constraints involved. Most air forces have combat tactics not releasable to other countries, used only in actual combat or in training against their own side. Doubt the RAF was using every trick in their bag.

Can also tell you, from personal experience, that we are well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the Soviet/Russian Integrated Air Defense System (IADS), and constantly work to improve our capabilities.

Great to see the Russians doing well in a tank competition. Sure doesn't translate well to actual combat, does it.

If the Russian EW capability is so good overall, wonder why people worldwide tend to buy Western equipment.
And if you notice, Russian strategic bombers stay over Russia and fire cruise missiles instead of dropping their loads on Ukrainian targets. Wonder why.

If Western weapons were no good against Russian tanks guess all the videos we've seen of Western anti-tank weapons blowing Russian tanks to shit are fabrications. Guess the repeated requests for anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles by the Ukes are all fiction.

US troops don't carry that many anti-tank missiles or MANPADS by hand. Instead, they use dedicated anti-air vehicle-mounted missile systems, as well as anti-tank missiles mounted in infantry fighting vehicles.

When you send trainers to train in a new country/new environment, your trainers will learn, as well. Always a two-way street.

Two things not mentioned - first, the Russians' awful logistics systems. We've seen that failure. But most of all we've seen the utter failure of the Russian refusal to allow the people engaged in operations to use flexibility in dealing with changing situations on the battlefield. Americans are trained and expected to use flexibility on the battlefield, knowing plans don't always survive first contact with the enemy. And for some reason I simply don't see American soldiers just abandoning their equipment on the battlefield, as we've seen Russian troops do.

The Russians may have some good stuff and some good people, but they are sadly lacking in their logistics and their leadership models. Logistics and leadership win wars, which is why Russia's had to pull back in the north. They wanted Kyiv and Zelensky badly but were stopped. Logistics, planning, and leadership failures, and that shit can't be spun away.

On a different subject, interesting info re the war's effects on Ukrainian fruit and vegetable exports.

https://www.producebluebook.com/2022/04/12/russia-ukraine-war-has-effect-on-produce-around-the-globe/

https://archive.ph/rwabN

 

[Wy4M]

He is not wrong, but I find his predictions a bit too optimistic. It's not like the US can actually lose in this struggle, it is literally too big to fail. You can't win against the house because it makes the rules, and the US has been "the house" for almost a century now.

If the US its petrodollar gets fucked then they have a lot to lose.
Russia coupled its ruble to a gold standard and as from now oil/gas is being traded in rubles.
China, India, Belarus (and I think a few other countries too?) accepted this while EU countries are forced to do so. The US is now trying to isolate and sanction countries who trade in rubles and imo much of it depends how successful they will be in doing so.

 

[Titos]

If seeing this won't make you want to stop this war, I don't know what will.

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Damn, all the vodka has made it so even slavic dogs grow like potatoes!