Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
I’ve been keeping an eye on the doula community for reasons i won’t PL about and imho yes, some seem to be really deranged and thread worthy.
There are a lot of niches in that group: some dedicated to black mothers, others to “sexual birth”. It’s pretty unsettling and horror stories aren’t exactly a rarity.
It's very unfortunate. Doulas can be a wonderful asset, especially during hospital deliveries. But like everything else, there are a few crazies and tards who have to ruin it for everyone else.
 
Out of curiosity, if she takes Luna to an ER (doubtful), would the doctor be legally obliged to give Luna a feeding tube and other life support measures if she tips south?
If the family wishes for it, yes the doctors are obligated to take any and all forms of life saving measures. And I'm sure they will want to torture Luna until the last possible moment.
 
Out of curiosity, if she takes Luna to an ER (doubtful), would the doctor be legally obliged to give Luna a feeding tube and other life support measures if she tips south?
Technically, a doctor can refuse treatment if they deem it medically futile, but generally they won't and here's why:
1. Is it worth my time and money to fight a potential lawsuit?
2. Will the hospital I work for have my back if I refuse care?
3. Is it worth bad word of mouth/press/online reviews/etc.?
So usually they will go along with what the family wants knowing eventually the patient will die regardless of what treatments are requested.
AMA Medical Futility Article
They cite a really interesting case in Texas where a hospital was given permission by a judge to withdraw life support from a child with a fatal genetic condition against the mother's wishes. The mother was given 10 days to find another facility willing to care for her terminally ill child before life support was withdrawn. She was unable to find one.
 
Can’t a hospital basically get her well enough to send her home to die? That seems to be what happens a lot more now, even though the families don’t seem to realize it at the time.
As in:
Can the hospital stabilize her enough for transport home? Yes.
Does the hospital staff/MDs know there will be eminent demise at home? Sure.
The MDs will discuss this with the family extensively, but how much the family chooses to believe/comprehend is up to them. It happens all the time with patients that either enter hospice or should have entered hospice.
 
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