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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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ohhh no double post....


the further they go back the better their stuff gets. using ww2 shells will not be a probems, even the west is still using some of those arms and explosives rarely go bad, its mostly chips and other modern stuff that goes bad.
While I can't speak for all of the Western Nations, the US got rid of all the old WW2 Surplus shit after that crap nearly sank the Carrier USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War. Right now I suspect that there are a large number of Ammunition Storage Warehouses and Bunkers in Russia that haven't so much as had the door opened since the 1990's. It should be interesting to see what happens when they get a sudden inrush of air and oxygen.
 
the best western machine guns still have hitlers eagkes on them and alot of western countries are still suing inferior allies machine guns and shells...


1. they not we....
2. those are the modern ones, not the older ones that make bigger boom, but also kill subhuman civilians. on mass....


nah, ask those american soldiers on here. germany has developed very modern weapons in the last decades because of restrictions and stupid nato politcs..



they can go full savage. right now they are using only small weapons against kike cities. they can escalate alot. even if they have to build primitve shells again.
we had the tech to bow up cities for a couple of centueires now and the russiand can produce enough ww1 type shells to fuck up kevin without a pro
>Only using small weapons
>minimizing civilian casualties
Gee billy, I didn't know firing cluster munitions into residential zones at random was 'precision modern weaponry.' I didn't know that the Kh-31 being blind fired in an attempt to SEAD was a modern and precise weapon system. I didn't know just randomly lobbing artillery shells and cruise missiles at a city is totally not 'escalated'. Fuck off you east german cuck, go suck the aged cock of the russian soldier who raped your grandmother.
 
can you understand that an all out war with russia is bad? and that subhuman scum like Ukrainians and their kikes are not worth risking a world war?
>Are ukrainians really worth risking a world war over?
>are the Baltics really worth risking a world war over?
>Is Hungary really worth starting a world war over?
etc etc etc. I've said this previously in this very thread but yes, yes they are, because with assholes like Putin they won't stop unless they're made to, and the best time to stop them is when they fucking start shit, not when they've strenghtned themselves on previous expansion. It's a lesson we took to heart after mustache man and peace for our time shite.

the best western machine guns still have hitlers eagkes on them
wat

are still suing inferior allies machine guns and shells...
cite sources or fuck off with this bullshit
 
I know Amnesty can be pretty gay but 10 years for a trololololol stickering campaign? May as well live in Bongistan if you're going to go away for that.


https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/04/russia-artist-detained-amid-clampdown-on-anti-war-feminists/

https://archive.ph/wip/GXsJ8

The article didn't show her stickers, actually they are pretty balsy and ingenious, tbh. It has nothing to do with feminism, simply anti-war that's causing her being charged with "discrediting of the RF armed forces" ... i.e. butthurt ... 10 years potential

The sticker still has the same price, just product description is replaced with:

"weekly inflation has reached max mark since 1998 thanks to our actions in Ukraine. Stop war"

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>Are ukrainians really worth risking a world war over?
>are the Baltics really worth risking a world war over?
>Is Hungary really worth starting a world war over?
etc etc etc. I've said this previously in this very thread but yes, yes they are, because with assholes like Putin they won't stop unless they're made to, and the best time to stop them is when they fucking start shit, not when they've strenghtned themselves on previous expansion. It's a lesson we took to heart after mustache man and peace for our time shite.
"Look, is the Rhineland really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the Sudetenland really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the rest of Czechoslovakia really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the city of Danzig really worth starting a world war over?"

Don't bother talking to the Kraut about these things.
 
The Russians have been threatening to take the gloves off for weeks now and they only thing they've managed to blow up is the pride of their own Black Sea Fleet (if you believe the official Russian MoD cope line that it was just an unfortunate ammunition accident). At this rate the Ukrainians will be at the gates of Sevastopol and they'll still be threatening to really take the gloves off, for real this time!
 
While I can't speak for all of the Western Nations, the US got rid of all the old WW2 Surplus shit after that crap nearly sank the Carrier USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War.
If the US Navy had their way, that old surplus shit would've been dumped overboard years before that incident. As they already known that vintage shit was unsafe to hold on too.
 
>Are ukrainians really worth risking a world war over?
>are the Baltics really worth risking a world war over?
no and no...

>Is Hungary really worth starting a world war over?
yes it is...

etc etc etc. I've said this previously in this very thread but yes, yes they are, because with assholes like Putin they won't stop unless they're made to, and the best time to stop them is when they fucking start shit, not when they've strenghtned themselves on previous expansion. It's a lesson we took to heart after mustache man and peace for our time shite.
ukraine is no place to strenghen themself. its super poor and it mostly exports grain to out enemies...


"Look, is the Rhineland really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the Sudetenland really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the rest of Czechoslovakia really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the city of Danzig really worth starting a world war over?"
the US joined war because germany gassed some degenerate kikes. also all those places willingly joind germany because they were german for a millenia...


This will be the first time I ever use the ignore button.
ohh no, my kike overlords at Cnnn told me to ignore everyone who isnt an npc like me...
 
"Look, is the Rhineland really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the Sudetenland really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the rest of Czechoslovakia really worth starting a world war over?"
"Look, is the city of Danzig really worth starting a world war over?"

Don't bother talking to the Kraut about these things.
germanys claims to the rhineland (literally its own territory) as well as sudetenland and danzig (german inhabited territories recently taken away by force of arms) were valid and made sense
but the invasion of czechia is a pretty good analogy to the current war for ukraine. other similar situations would be the soviet-polish war where the red army first attempted (and failed) to take poland, the soviet-finnish winter war, the japanese invasion of manchuria, etc.
 
Apparently the Ukrainian used a Bayraktar to distract the air defense while the Neptunes are being launched, or the Neptunes escaped the Russians' notice by flying very close to the sea. I don't know which one is true

What is certain, however, is that Russia is so incompetent they lost the flagship of a fleet to a state that currently lacks a naval force. This is just so embarrassing, especially to a Nuclear Power. The notion that Russia could win this war have been severely reduced since that ship must have been very important for their sea-based bombardment and artilleries. And if Kyiv can destroy the Russian ship out on the sea, they definitely can destroy the buildup forces for the next Russian Eastern Advances. Just think about that

I really want to know how the Vatniks and the Russiaboos are going to spin this. The mental gymnastics must be so hard to do, especially since the news of the attack was also confirmed by the Russian propaganda arm. The funny thing is, by omitting that this was a Ukrainian attack, they're saying their forces is very incompetent they could lose a ship due to an accident
 
I'm curious to see what kind of mischief the ukies could get up to with some of the MLRS units slated to be retired soon against a bunch of concentrated Russia armor, assuming we give them any.
 
Apparently the Ukrainian used a Bayraktar to distract the air defense while the Neptunes are being launched, or the Neptunes escaped the Russians' notice by flying very close to the sea. I don't know which one is true

What is certain, however, is that Russia is so incompetent they lost the flagship of a fleet to a state that currently lacks a naval force. This is just so embarrassing, especially to a Nuclear Power. The notion that Russia could win this war have been severely reduced since that ship must have been very important for their sea-based bombardment and artilleries. And if Kyiv can destroy the Russian ship out on the sea, they definitely can destroy the buildup forces for the next Russian Eastern Advances. Just think about that

I really want to know how the Vatniks and the Russiaboos are going to spin this. The mental gymnastics must be so hard to do, especially since the news of the attack was also confirmed by the Russian propaganda arm. The funny thing is, by omitting that this was a Ukrainian attack, they're saying their forces is very incompetent they could lose a ship due to an accident
They've lost 2 ships due to accidental shipboard fires. Remember the Landing ship currently sunk at its pier. Which excuse plays better with the Russian Public? Complete and Utter crew incompetance that is just accidently burning down their capital ships. Or that their prideful military is being beaten back from their unwelcome unwanted invasion by the supposedly grossly inferior forces of the Ukrainian neighbors?

At what point do the various Generals, Admirrals and FSB types, not yet imprisoned see the writing on the wall and act?
 
>Are ukrainians really worth risking a world war over?
>are the Baltics really worth risking a world war over?
>Is Hungary really worth starting a world war over?
etc etc etc. I've said this previously in this very thread but yes, yes they are, because with assholes like Putin they won't stop unless they're made to, and the best time to stop them is when they fucking start shit, not when they've strenghtned themselves on previous expansion. It's a lesson we took to heart after mustache man and peace for our time shite.
It's like these alt-right people don't understand the value of human life. Compromising with evil only leads to greater evil. You give them an inch, they take a mile.

It's like making deals with terrorists, you're only incentivizing others to hit you up even more.
 
They've lost 2 ships due to accidental shipboard fires. Remember the Landing ship currently sunk at its pier. Which excuse plays better with the Russian Public? Complete and Utter crew incompetance that is just accidently burning down their capital ships. Or that their prideful military is being beaten back from their unwelcome unwanted invasion by the supposedly grossly inferior forces of the Ukrainian neighbors?

At what point do the various Generals, Admirrals and FSB types, not yet imprisoned see the writing on the wall and act?
And do what, though? Rebel? A coup? Flee? Try to muddle through alive? Tough choices, and I'm not being sarcastic.
 
Apparently the Ukrainian used a Bayraktar to distract the air defense while the Neptunes are being launched, or the Neptunes escaped the Russians' notice by flying very close to the sea. I don't know which one is true

What is certain, however, is that Russia is so incompetent they lost the flagship of a fleet to a state that currently lacks a naval force. This is just so embarrassing, especially to a Nuclear Power. The notion that Russia could win this war have been severely reduced since that ship must have been very important for their sea-based bombardment and artilleries. And if Kyiv can destroy the Russian ship out on the sea, they definitely can destroy the buildup forces for the next Russian Eastern Advances. Just think about that

I really want to know how the Vatniks and the Russiaboos are going to spin this. The mental gymnastics must be so hard to do, especially since the news of the attack was also confirmed by the Russian propaganda arm. The funny thing is, by omitting that this was a Ukrainian attack, they're saying their forces is very incompetent they could lose a ship due to an accident
As late as two months ago people unironically thought NATO and the US in particular would get rolled over by Russia in a 'real war' (maybe the most terminal kopeidil addicts still do). I honestly thought the Russian Navy might come out of this looking the best of the Russian military simply because they had little to actually do and thus the least chances to embarrass themselves but this is just humiliating. The fact that it's the fucking Snake Island ship manages to add even more insult to injury.
 
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