Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

I saw this and thought it was funny and interestingly when you actually click on the article it's this.

 

[Nationalistbrother1776]

About as well as you calling hunter's laptop disinformation. Man that was stupid.




You absolute smooth brained walking stereotype. You came into this thread with your prideful bullshit, most of your posts are trying to somehow dunk on white people that give a shit about their race. I really don't want to turn this into some bullshit back and forth about race, but good lord, that's all you talk about. That's all you people ever want to talk about. On the internet i don't give a shit who are what you are outside of being a pedo, black brown or any mix thereof. But that's all you keep going back too. race race race.

Where is my resentment coming from? I have a terminal case of nigger fatigue, i don't want to have to be around you, i don't want to be subjected to your retardation, i don't wanna be subjected to your half smart takes.

Maybe you don't see yourself that way, but you sure come across as someone that has so much tied into their race, they can't help but vomit that shit everywhere.

I tried to explain why folks gave a shit about animals in a warzone, and you responded by telling me to suck your dick. And you wonder why i respond the way i do

Lol I actually wasn't talking about race anymore you kept bringing it up. I gave my Mea culpa. I came in trying to be funny And the last time I checked white volk get made fun of on kf and /pol/ tongue in cheek is still a thing. I'm not BLM, Israelite , noi or black nationalist.... Your yelling at the wrong nigger...... yell at them not ME your wasting your time...... I don't know what else I can say. I've been following this conflict literally since day one watching Givi and Motorola fuck up the Airport and Ilovaisk So you're not going to tell me what I can and can't talk about. I have retard Identitarian fatigue black-and-white I want to get away from them They are the ones going around shooting people making gun grabber fuel. I teach Asian people and women how to shoot so when they drive into our wonderful blue Democrat cities they can blow the head off of D'elante and his cousin pookie... When was the last time you helped somebody in this country do something? See you around Dylan roof

 

[D'edge]

@Sammich
@Nationalistbrother1776

Is it too much to ask that you two just turn the other cheek to each other and move on? I know someone here can probably put it more diplomatically, but, of all the tomfoolery in this thread (the harrowing opposite of an echo chamber if there ever was one), I think you two are the first to straight up argue over nothing.

Yes, @Nationalistbrother1776, you're coming across as a hypocrite. You may not realize it, but you're the one who keeps bringing up race. Yes, @Sammich, you're coming across as resentful. You may not realize it, but you're the one who keeps escalating this dispute and won't let it just go away with time.

There's no harm in stepping away from the keyboard on this, it'll get buried under the bajillion marginally on-topic posts anyway.

 

[Nationalistbrother1776]

@Sammich
@Nationalistbrother1776

Is it too much to ask that you two just turn the other cheek to each other and move on? I know someone here can probably put it more diplomatically, but, of all the tomfoolery in this thread (the harrowing opposite of an echo chamber if there ever was one), I think you two are the first to straight up argue over nothing.

Yes, @Nationalistbrother1776, you're coming across as a hypocrite. You may not realize it, but you're the one who keeps bringing up race. Yes, @Sammich, you're coming across as resentful. You may not realize it, but you're the one who keeps escalating this dispute and won't let it just go away with time.

There's no harm in stepping away from the keyboard on this, it'll get buried under the bajillion marginally on-topic posts anyway.

I agree.... I was definitely Talking reckless.... My bad guys..... I'm done

 

[UmQasaan]

Really disappointed in Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan.

He has good videos mocking people in America, but this feel like straight western propaganda. Showing the “statistic” that 80% of Russians support Putin, interviewing people who unironically say Russia has the real nazi problem, and showing media outlets saying how Kremlin propaganda is literally EVERWHERE. (It’s not) Contributing to this disgusting gaslighting campaign makes me reminiscent of Iraq during the Bush presidency.

I would have liked it more if he tried to find some people who were ambivalent and had more nuanced points of view but he “interviewed” the mayor of Lviv who was sperging about “well Poutine is acshually le Hitler”. Nothing about Donbas for the past 8 years, not present the video of the Ukie doctor saying to castrate Russian POWs, and not revealing confirmed Ukraine war crimes by the OWN western media outlets.

There isn’t a single opposing view or bad thing said about Ukraine to show that this war is fucking shit for everyone. Instead it feels like manufactured propaganda piece to already confirm the biases within the NATO feedback loop.

This video makes me frustrated more than usual, because while it’s not a surprise that a western person will parrot the only narrative that’s being given to them, the intentional disconnect is also being perpetuated through “authentic and neutral” journalists with a surprising amount of influence on Zoomers. The worst part is that all of this goes unquestioned, and if you have a dissenting opinion you’re a bot. They arrogantly proclaim that they don’t fall for propaganda and their side in the absolute truth. What a fucking shame.

 

[3-2-1836]

Half?

More like 15% now that they withdrew everything west of Kharkov

The big banger that Putin keeps not starting for some reason is intended to get that half

Maybe

At least a third

He should start pretty soon though, at a certain point waiting and waiting to amass more forces hits diminishing returns hard. Ask the Germs at Kursk

At the very least Russia accomplished two major goals in the South, secure and restore Crimea's water supply and create a land bridge from Crimea to Russia, that's why Crimea's representatives in the Duma are asking to be allowed to annex Kherson Oblast so Ukraine can't ever cut off their water again.

 

[Sammich]

I agree.... I was definitely Talking reckless.... My bad guys..... I'm done

Fuck it, I'll go a step further. I'll apologize if i might have misjudged you. I seen a ton of your posts as anti-white, and that shit is so invasive. As far as doing anything to help people, I tend to spend a few days a week at a local veterans' nursing home spending time with the oldesters. Some of those folks never get visitors and their families just chuck them in there and forget them. That's shameful to me.

But yeah, my sincere apology if I misjudged you. And same goes for derailing to throw shit, my bad.

 

[draggs]

At the very least Russia accomplished two major goals in the South, secure and restore Crimea's water supply and create a land bridge from Crimea to Russia, that's why Crimea's representatives in the Duma are asking to be allowed to annex Kherson Oblast so Ukraine can't ever cut off their water again.

Russia isn't going to keep any of that territory in the south after the war unless the Red Army completely breaks the hohols in the east and sends them running over the Dnieper which I just don't see happening from Russia's performance so far. In the south they couldn't take Mikolaiev and threaten Odessa once Ukraine got reinforcements in, now the hohols have retaken some territory near Kherson in a fairly limited counteroffensive. Russia has to win this coming big battle in the east and win it decisively. Not half win it which is basically the best they've done anywhere so far including the pretty large and determined offensives at Kiev and Kharkov, a smaller one but just as determined one at Chernihiv that bogged down, and another smaller but just as determined offensive at Mikolaiev that got stopped and pushed back. At Mariupol the hohols are still fighting because if the Russians went all urra urra on the Nazi battalion they'd take unacceptable losses, but Mariupol not being pacified makes an eastern offensive more complicated for them. Russia hasn't yet been able to break Ukrainian forces and make Ukrainian reinforcements irrelevant, every time Ukraine has been able to hold long enough to reinforce and stop major Russian drives so far. Russia can't let that happen again.

 

[OG Swolemaster]

BREAKING TRUE™NEWS:

Official statement from Russian Ministry of Defense blames Japanese torpedo boat for the explosion on Moskva

Sources inside Ukrainian military claim Moskva sunk by Shark of Kiev, codename: Neptun

Transinistria to announce planned denazification of Moldova

Lukashenko compares Ukrainian cattle farms to Auschwitz

Chernobyl: Elephant's foot stolen by gypsies

Hitler grants Azov honorary aryan status from inside the hollow earth

 

[Titos]

This video makes me frustrated more than usual, because while it’s not a surprise that a western person will parrot the only narrative that’s being given to them, the intentional disconnect is also being perpetuated through “authentic and neutral” journalists with a surprising amount of influence on Zoomers. The worst part is that all of this goes unquestioned, and if you have a dissenting opinion you’re a bot. They arrogantly proclaim that they don’t fall for propaganda and their side in the absolute truth. What a fucking shame.

Lmao, imagine getting "frustrated" at the internet just look away nigga hahahahah like just turn off your screen nigga LOL

 

[Nationalistbrother1776]

Really disappointed in Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan.

He has good videos mocking people in America, but this feel like straight western propaganda. Showing the “statistic” that 80% of Russians support Putin, interviewing people who unironically say Russia has the real nazi problem, and showing media outlets saying how Kremlin propaganda is literally EVERWHERE. (It’s not) Contributing to this disgusting gaslighting campaign makes me reminiscent of Iraq during the Bush presidency.

I would have liked it more if he tried to find some people who were ambivalent and had more nuanced points of view but he “interviewed” the mayor of Lviv who was sperging about “well Poutine is acshually le Hitler”. Nothing about Donbas for the past 8 years, not present the video of the Ukie doctor saying to castrate Russian POWs, and not revealing confirmed Ukraine war crimes by the OWN western media outlets.

There isn’t a single opposing view or bad thing said about Ukraine to show that this war is fucking shit for everyone. Instead it feels like manufactured propaganda piece to already confirm the biases within the NATO feedback loop.

This video makes me frustrated more than usual, because while it’s not a surprise that a western person will parrot the only narrative that’s being given to them, the intentional disconnect is also being perpetuated through “authentic and neutral” journalists with a surprising amount of influence on Zoomers. The worst part is that all of this goes unquestioned, and if you have a dissenting opinion you’re a bot. They arrogantly proclaim that they don’t fall for propaganda and their side in the absolute truth. What a fucking shame.

Shekels my man..... It's always the Shekels....

 

[UmQasaan]

Lmao, imagine getting "frustrated" at the internet just look away nigga hahahahah like just turn off your screen nigga LOL

Fr Fr no cap nigga he b bussin n sussin. Niggas like u b postin cp n shit in this thread tho, straight mid.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

At the very least Russia accomplished two major goals in the South, secure and restore Crimea's water supply and create a land bridge from Crimea to Russia, that's why Crimea's representatives in the Duma are asking to be allowed to annex Kherson Oblast so Ukraine can't ever cut off their water again.

They haven't truly accomplished those until the war ends and those areas are still in Russian hands. While the only way that Russia might be able to choose when the war ends is if they give up, and go home empty handed. Otherwise the war doesn't end until Ukraine decides to stop fighting, and I doubt they'll be willing to stop fighting until they've regained everything Russia's captured since the start of this war. Crimea annexing the Kherson Oblast would mean jack shit as no one is going to recognize the claim unless Ukraine does. Similarly if Kherson was willing to defect to Russia like Crimea apparently was, it'd have already happened and no one would respect any referendum if they managed to put one together anyways.

 

[Bush King]

Sergei Naryshkin was giving a speech that was so obtuse and incomprehensible that nobody understood it and Putin wanted it to be made clear both for the people present and those who would watch the video later. Narshkin was basically giving such a pointless speech that it boiled down to "Many people have said many things and I support it!" only for Putin to forcefully clarify that Russia's stance wasn't to incorporate Donetsk and Luhansk but rather to recognize them as independent states. If you watch over the course of the speech Putin took off his watch and kept glancing at it while drumming his fingers impatiently as Naryshkin was rambling on about nonsense. I'll forgive the guy for getting irritated by political creatures that always speak in vague language to be agreeable with everyone. If anything this just shows that Putin isn't exactly lopping off the heads of everyone like Stalin who would have had the guy gulag'd for being such a waste of space.

Also I don't feel that Russia is any more "dictatorial" than any other state in Europe. Merkel was in office for nearly as long as Putin yet we're not lambasting her and Germany for being a corrupt shithole. Sometimes the voters will vote for the mediocre stable figure over the idealist because they're content with the status quo. Russia fucking sucks and nobody expects anything to change any time soon, why put some dipshit in there and capsize the boat for no reason? If we look at leaders since the Tsardom ended, Putin is probably the most even keeled and stable figure they've had aside from Brezhnev. He isn't some bloody tyrant like Lenin or Stalin, nor a reckless gambler like Khrushchev. Nor is he part as shit as the revolving door to graveyard immediate post Brezhnev. Gorbachev literally crashed the USSR and Yeltsin deepened the crisis. Putin has had his flaws for sure but he isn't rocking the boat too much until recently.

The UK bans parties that are too spicy, Macron uses his banking clout to ensure that Le Pen can't get financing for her political campaigns, Italy has the mafia involved in politics, the US had its political cabal steal an election with video proof of ballot stuffing in multiple states. Russia gets a bad rap because... what? They intervene and crush literal Western plant politicians like Alexei Navalny? Russia is almost a mirror image of the US at this point, the political establishment has been in power an excessively long time and use the levers of power against the opposition. Almost every "Democracy" in the world right now is a corrupt cesspool of geriatric pricks that need to go, Russia is no different.

Sergei's speech was rambling precisely because he was trying to appease his boss. The whole time he is looking at Putin for approval, and at the most crucial points pauses before saying anything of value so that Putin can give him the words that the regime will accept. I'm also not saying that Putin is or would lop off heads. Russia isn't China. Xi kills his top opponents, Putin has no need to do so (nor did Stalin for that matter). Political purges can be as simple as being sidelined and sent to a military base in Siberia or the Arctic.

Russia absolutely is a dictatorship, we've moved beyond the idea of dictatorship as it was in the 20th century. Merkel wasn't a dictator because she was in power for a long time, and nor is Putin. Putin is a dictator now because he has cultivated a situation where the brokerage of power is made with him as final actor. This arrangement is actually incredibly new, probably at the earliest de facto in 2018/19 and de jure in 2020 with the referendum. Previously, he was not an autocrat like today or a puppet as 20 years ago, he had to rely on the powerful to appease their friends and have his position approved by them. That is not true today, Putin is the one who now appoints the powerful. The days of the Russian oligarch are gone. That's something I'll give him credit for, it takes a lot of effort for someone the power brokers see as a plaything they can control to upend the system and create a situation where the power brokers no longer matter.

The ultimate difference is that Western democracies can have breakthroughs. All the measures in place mean nothing when the populace awakens and pushes for people who are not within the machine. Let's not pretend Trump wasn't elected. Of course, Europeans are more authoritarian than the US is. I don't consider them legitimate states either. The difference is that these regimes need to make some form of decentralised power sharing arrangement with the institutions that make up these nations and the people who run them. Again, let's not forget Trudeau. The lockdowns were actually a state issue the federal government didn't control, but then he abused his power against the trucker convoy and was forced to stop by his Parliament. Putin on the contrary doesn't need to compromise or backdown or share power anymore.

This is why I brought up the USSR- even at his peak, Brezhnev had to rely on some group to maintain power, typically the Army, who typically held sway with the hardliners in the Politburo. Only Stalin as General Secretary could maintain the immense power he had and that came about by 1938 because the Secretariat controlled the military, intelligence, executive power and legislative veto, the secret police, etc. That changed after Stalin's death. Likewise, Putin had to rely on the military and partial Duma support, but now the Duma is filled with lackies and half the military was carved off into the National Guard which is his personal army. The KGB has always been loyal. Putin is a dictator now because he controls all the organs.

 

[Titos]

Fr Fr no cap nigga he b bussin n sussin. Niggas like u b postin cp n shit in this thread tho, straight mid.View attachment 3177650

You seem frustrated buddy, might I suggest you calm down? Take a nice sip of lean no cap frfr?

 

[Wy4M]

Some more cultural information: It seems that Russians cook their coffee beans.
You know, those guys who don't have bricks, roads, toilets, nutella, laptops, ipads, oil, fuel, ammo and whateverelse

https://twitter.com/proudukraine/status/1514318191522349056

https://archive.ph/wip/jbmld

 

[Wy4M]

Richard Spencer was happy that The Traitors Coalition lost a major supply of copium.

https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1514051636011814916

https://archive.ph/WmbMn

In the mean time their account is active again but it's set to private so only followers can see what they post.

 

[Wy4M]

OSCE's "War crimes of the armed forces and security forces of Ukraine: torture and inhumane treatment
Second report"
Note that it is from 2016 but it gives more context to the current situation.

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf

 

[Titos]

Some more cultural information: It seems that Russians cook their coffee beans.
You know, those guys who don't have bricks, roads, toilets, nutella, laptops, ipads, oil, fuel, ammo and whateverelse

View attachment 3177659 View attachment 3177661

https://twitter.com/proudukraine/status/1514318191522349056

https://archive.ph/wip/jbmld

Looks like they "cooked" them with oil, pretty sure you aren't supposed to do that. Stick to tea.

Edit: Nigger stop triple posting you faggot, just edit your post jesus christ Johnny Cash would nail you to a Ford engine block.

 

[UmQasaan]

He is not wrong, but I find his predictions a bit too optimistic. It's not like the US can actually lose in this struggle, it is literally too big to fail. You can't win against the house because it makes the rules, and the US has been "the house" for almost a century now.

Nothing is too big to fail. The question is how will a nation handle a crisis that’s never been bad in its history.

Time is inconceivably vast, even the entire history of civilization is a micrometer in the span of it. Yet for us living in the present, we base our preconceptions on the last century or so, because that is what had the most impact on our lives. People were born into and died in Pax Romana, they probably thought it would never end, and centuries of mass warfare finally ceased to exist.

It’s inevitable that vast empires go through decline, no one wants to be the victim of it, but the truth is that it happens. It’s just a matter of How quickly matters will escalate