General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Pippa just under 600 consecutive watchers by youtube's count. I wonder what percentage is out there that doesn't get counted.
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From what I've seen every time a stream starts it's viewers drops by half. It will slowly build back up as viewers get notifications and tune in. From what Pippa herself has said, youtube does not count people with adblock. It's possible the actual number of viewers could be anywhere from 25-100% greater than what's shown. With Pippa's audience being aflicted with Pipkin there's probably a higher amount of people using adblock. You can see that reflected in polls.
Bringing this back up as I just noticed this when trying to watch last night's VOD.
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The video already has 5.6k views. I have no idea how Susan counts views so I'm probably completely off on my estimates.
 
Jesus, Vox is already only 25k less for 600k subs. He literally just reached 500k subs 3 weeks ago. Why isn't anyone else copying him already when its already obvious its profitable as hell?
Something something can't catch lightning in a bottle etc. I guarantee many of the 2view indies are copying vox this very minute including the 7 million debuting over the next 2 months. However, the Lux boys got lucky in the sense AC finally took the risk on a male wave and it struck diamonds. Vox in particular sat in the grey area of coomer bait and doing his thing, but he leans to either side masterfully when necessary. Aside Reimu, he doesn't really lean into "messing" with the girls, which so many seem to lap up (especially the chinese audience) versus the men trying to join Niji/Holo to get close to the talents rather than to actually entertain. The girls, while I like a few, aren't anything special. They have their charm but they don't really do anything interesting, and the few that tries comes off at desperate to hold onto viewers that abandoned em. I think that's why I particularly like Selen the most because while she too isn't the best, she doesn't follow the mold like damn near everyone else. Her and Suisei are similar in that aspect.

Edit: And thinking about it, talents like Enna would do wonders but realistically speaking, she's still just another chick that sings, tries to play games, does craft streams and can talk endlessly, she's talented as fuck but it really does seem in term of vtubing it's far more tougher for girls these days (now that its oversaturated) than the guys that have to prove themselves. There's really no emulating Vox. Sonny had the potential because he could have put his Voice Acting to use.
 
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I mean... the "problem" guy has a point. I never liked Ring Fit streams because there's literally nothing going on except the streamer breathing heavily and grunting. They're too winded to give commentary and visually it's just the model wobbling over game footage. It's gross, but if that's not the audience you're going for, there really is no point to streaming Ring Fit.
If you want commentary like it's a normal game, try Iroha.

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For a fleeting moment I thought this was descriptive and not imperative. I now feel disappointment for something I knew and know could never have been.

Hey kind of a left field one here, but I just noticed something. Reine has really decent mouth rigging, maybe not quite to GirlDM levels but still notably better than most of hololive. It’s weird, as they’re arguably the biggest corpo with the most discerning hiring practices but their biggest talents frequently look like south park characters when they do karaoke. It’s just weird. Here’s the turkey’s karaoke from last night so you can bounce around and see what I’m talking about but also just because she’s pretty fun in karaoke.

Guessing Pochi sensei and the rigger (which I'm not too sure who it is) decided to give a bit more attention and love to the model.
Reine's rigger is tou_ilie, whose most recent Holos are Sakamata and Zeta - both very expressive. Now that you've pointed it out I still prefer Reine's mouth rigging of the three, but Sakamata's singing setup may be suboptimal for tracking because her eyes sometimes spaz out.

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Watching the Pippa/Yuri VOD right now.

It was a day full of malding for Pippa. First on the not-pippa account, getting grifted by Garfield Kart top 1% players, and then in OW (as is tradition).

That girl's vocal chords are made of fucking titanium if she's able to speak normally after yesterday.
 
Something something can't catch lightning in a bottle etc. I guarantee many of the 2view indies are copying vox this very minute including the 7 million debuting over the next 2 months. However, the Lux boys got lucky in the sense AC finally took the risk on a male wave and it struck diamonds. Vox in particular sat in the grey area of coomer bait and doing his thing, but he leans to either side masterfully when necessary. Aside Reimu, he doesn't really lean into "messing" with the girls, which so many seem to lap up (especially the chinese audience) versus the men trying to join Niji/Holo to get close to the talents rather than to actually entertain. The girls, while I like a few, aren't anything special. They have their charm but they don't really do anything interesting, and the few that tries comes off at desperate to hold onto viewers that abandoned em. I think that's why I particularly like Selen the most because while she too isn't the best, she doesn't follow the mold like damn near everyone else. Her and Suisei are similar in that aspect.

Edit: And thinking about it, talents like Enna would do wonders but realistically speaking, she's still just another chick that sings, tries to play games, does craft streams and can talk endlessly, she's talented as fuck but it really does seem in term of vtubing it's far more tougher for girls these days (now that its oversaturated) than the guys that have to prove themselves. There's really no emulating Vox. Sonny had the potential because he could have put his Voice Acting to use.
And when I said Vox was breaking Vtuber records, you retards laughed at me.
Who's laughing now?
 
Azki tries to make friends in Hololive
This was fun. AZKi listened to all other member's original songs and let said members know which led to others praising AZKi (Lui admitted crying listening to her live shows) and have netted some plans for singing collabs. On the game recommendation, Lamy recommended DDLC which might be interesting and reminded me of the new Niji liver Amagase Muyu's early days "I'm going to play DDLC and the next day I will play my first ever horror game".

In total she contacted 13 holos (she counted Haato and Haachama separately), quite good for a self proclaimed introvert.
 
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