Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

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  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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In less than a day the story has gone.

Its sunk!
Its ammo exploded and sunk!
its ammo exploded
its damaged
it was on fire and maybe is damaged

Ukrainian fairy tales are something else
It turned upside down!
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Russian Ministry of Defense:
  1. The source of the fire on the cruiser "Moscow" is localized. There is no open burning. Ammunition explosions have stopped.
  2. The cruiser "Moscow" retains buoyancy. The main missile armament is not damaged.
  3. The crew was evacuated to the ships of the Black Sea Fleet located in the area.
  4. Measures are being taken to tow the cruiser to the port.
  5. The causes of the fire are being established.


If this is the official statement, we can safely assume that Moscow is peacefully resting on the seabed in the harbor at Sevastopol, and at least half the crew is dead. In any case, it's the largest ship "lost" in a wartime setting since WWII - great job!

While Moscow is old and decrepit, the ship has useful area defense capabilities with S-300, OSA and those huge-ass Bazalt/Vulkan cruise missiles. With Moscow out of commission, any amphibious landings are as dead as the ship.
>Take a week off expecting nothing noteworthy to happen until the Donbass offensive kicks off
>One of Russia's highest-profile ships gets clobbered


In fairness, ships have been known to survive a hell of a lot of topside damage as long as the keel remains intact, see the US carrier fleet in the Pacific for reference. If they had to evac the crew, she's likely going to be out of the war for months at least, guess we'll have to wait for pics to see how bad it is.
 
Ukraine sunk their own flagship within 96 hours of the war starting.
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LOL WINNING

How is Ukraine totally not screwed? NATO led them down a path of lies to agitate Russia and Russia went in and fucked up Ukraine's military and took their territory. Their cokehead leader should have sat down with Putin at the end of February and sorted this out.

I am sure NATO convinced him not to though. Sanctions aren't working (surprise!) and the Euros are fucked (they deserve it).

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Technically the Roman empire did last way longer than 250 unless civil wars count as some sort of reset button.
I think historically it's categorized as a Republic before Julius and then an Empire starting with Augustus.

And tbf if someone disagrees with that categorization that's fair enough I suppose even if I think it's correct. The unfortunate(of fortunate) part for the USA is it functionally became an Empire in 1865 so I guess technically it may have 143 years or so on average left. I say that knowing most people don't think the civil war made the US an Empire so *shrug*.
 
Do you know of empires that have lasted longer than 250 years?
The division between the Roman Republic and Roman Empire is purely arbitrary, as the position of Rome as a Mediterranean superpower and then hegemon over Western Europe and the Mediterranean was, despite numerous civil and foreign wars where Roman authority was temporarily lost over some areas, essentially uninterrupted from the end of the Second Punic War to the middle fourth century AD. Rome never met a setback she did not recover from, reimposing her preeminent position, stretching from the defeat of Hannibal outside Carthage at the end of the 3rd century BC, to the death of Julian in 363 AD. That's over 550 years, not 250.

Declaring that the United States was an empire from literally 1776 is pure idiocy. The United States was not a great power until ~1890, that to today is 130 years, not 250.

The Habsburgs were a great power from the 1400s and a superpower from the early 1500s up to World War I, again, significantly longer than 250 years.

The French were a European superpower and then a global empire from the end of the 1400s to 1940, despite numerous defeats they never lost their ability to drive European events until Hitler. Over 400 years.

More examples can be provided, of course. The original Assyrian empire. The New Kingdom of Egypt, almost 500 years. Multiple Chinese dynasties that were great empires for longer than 400 years.

Buddy I just keep embarrassing you and it's fun as hell, never stop.
 
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276, I think that's close enough for the average 250 but ok.
268 or 276 depending on where you start from. Again, within range if the 250 average imo.
India has a couple
Out of the 5 empires India has had one of them was longer than 250. Granted it was 500 so kudos to them. The rest are sub 250 while some are very close.
Mentioned already.. the republic is one thing, the empire is another historically speaking.
Siamese empire
Assuming you mean the kingdom of Siam its 150 not 250 and I don't believe Siam was ever an Empire(i.e. one nation ruling over other nations) but that's neither here nor there.


I don't think this disproves what you think it does.

The division between the Roman Republic and Roman Empire is purely arbitrary, as the position of Rome as a Mediterranean superpower and then hegemon over Western Europe and the Mediterranean was, despite numerous civil and foreign wars where Roman authority was temporarily lost over some areas, essentially uninterrupted from the end of the Second Punic War to the middle fourth century AD. Rome never met a setback she did not recover from, reimposing her preeminent position, stretching from the defeat of Hannibal outside Carthage at the end of the 3rd century BC, to the death of Julian in 363 AD. That's over 550 years, not 250.
Every historian separates Rome as two separate entities. The Republic vs the Empire. But you do you boo.
Declaring that the United States was an empire from literally 1776 is pure idiocy. The United States was not a great power until ~1890, that to today is 130 years, not 250.
I don't. I say it became an empire in 1865. Great power != Empire. Speaking of.
The Habsburgs were a great power from the 1400s and a superpower from the early 1500s up to World War I, again, significantly longer than 250 years.
Great. Not talking about great powers. Talking about Empires. Coincidently they were a part of the Holy Roman Empire which, also coincidently, would have been a much better example seeing as how long it lasted via its many iterations.
The French were a European superpower and then a global empire from the end of the 1400s to 1940, despite numerous defeats they never lost their ability to drive European events until Hitler. Over 400 years.
Again.. not understanding what Empire means. I'm not referring to superpowers, I'm referring to a nation of people via its state controlling other nations via force. The French have never done that until the colonies and nobody would argue that was for 250 years. The only time it was actually referred to as an Empire was less than 25 collective years split up by Napoleons turn at the wheel.
More examples can be provided, of course.
Please do. I'm pretty interested in history so if you know of empires that have lasted longer than 250 years I'd love to hear them. I'll grant you all of those you mentioned despite the various bumps along the way some of those have.
Buddy I just keep embarrassing you and it's fun as hell, never stop.
Oh no. How will I ever recover?

Just so everyone understands
Empire:
1.an extensive group of states or countries under a single supreme authority, formerly especially an emperor or empress.

Edit: I get all the Russian hate now. People still think the Russian Federation is the USSR because they don't recognize governmental collapse or changes. That and Russia shitting all over its neighbors.
 
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There's a billion Chinamen in China and they're flooding Western university engineering departments with their students every chance they get, so I'm sure they'll manage somehow
Little tidbit regarding chink engineers: the get good grades by cheating. Not a big deal in gender studies and other bullshit careers. Absolutely disastrous to do in engineering and other real disciplines.

Also even if you pass STEM, there’s the small matter of practical experience which Universities suck at.

I don’t think they will make up the gap anytime soon.
 
RIP, little buddy. I sincerely hope he didn't volunteer and rush to Ukraine because of Zelensky's propaganda and bullshit.
Maybe he left, because the state of Washington banned 30 round standard magazines.

Shitlibs and woketard progressives pushing for fully automatic guns to be given to the hohols while banning them at home lol.

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Maybe he left, because the state of Washington banned 30 round standard magazines.

Shitlibs and woketard progressives pushing for fully automatic guns to be given to the hohols while banning them at home lol.

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Always shows how Regressive "Progressives" really are, always getting Rights taken away from people. Language and wording is a weapon, never forget that shit.
 
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