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AP: Mysterious liver illness seen in kids in US, Europe

By MIKE STOBBE
2022-04-15 19:56:59 GMT

NEW YORK (AP) — Health officials in several countries are investigating mysterious cases of severe liver disease in children, and they think it may be related to a kind of virus usually associated with colds.

The U.K. has been investigating at least 74 cases in which children came down with hepatitis, or liver inflammation, the World Health Organization said Friday. Three similar cases in Spain and a few in Ireland are being investigated, the WHO said.

Meanwhile, U.S. health officials say they are looking into nine similar cases. All were in Alabama, but officials say they are looking to see if there are more elsewhere.

“Given the increase in cases reported over the past one month and enhanced case search activities, more cases are likely to be reported in the coming days,” WHO officials said in a statement.

The U.S. children ranged in age from 1 to 6 years old, and two required liver transplants. The European cases are in a similar age range, though some have been older, WHO officials said.

The WHO first became aware of the unusual illnesses early this month, when they learned of 10 children in Scotland with liver problems. One got sick in January and the nine others in March. All became severely ill and were diagnosed with hepatitis after being taken to the hospital.

The liver processes nutrients, filters the blood and fights infections. The infections caused symptoms like jaundice, diarrhea and abdominal pain. Hepatitis can be life-threatening if left untreated.

Since then, British health officials have identified at least 64 more cases. None died, but six needed liver transplants, the WHO said Friday.

Laboratory testing has ruled out the hepatitis type A, B, C and E viruses that usually cause such illnesses. Officials say they are not aware of international travel or other factors that might have put the kids at risk.

But they noted there’s been a recent surge in the spread of adenoviruses.

There are dozens of adenoviruses, many of them associated with cold-like symptoms, fever, sore throat and pink eye. But some versions can trigger other problems, including inflammation in the stomach and intestines.

Adenoviruses previously have been linked to hepatitis in children, but mostly in kids with weakened immune systems.

Some of the European children tested positive for adenovirus, and some tested positive for COVID-19. But more lab work is needed to explore any potential associations with specific viruses, the WHO said.

Alabama health officials say they have been looking into an increase in hepatitis in children since November. In each case, the child tested positive for adenovirus. Officials are exploring a link to one particular version — adenovirus 41 — that’s normally associated with gut inflammation.

None of the Alabama cases had any underlying health conditions that would seem to put them at risk for liver illness, health officials said.

“At this time adenovirus may be the cause for these, but investigators are still learning more — including ruling out the more common causes of hepatitis,” the CDC said in a statement.
 
While there's undoubtedly non-sense around the vaccines, their side effects. What is known and not disclosed. The big one is what is unknown but can't be talked about. "Safe and effective" is a statement no one informed can actually say honestly with confidence.

It is still always worth mentioning that not everything bad means it's vaccine-related. It can be something else or even a result of getting the COVID. I just often see, "well that bogan Australian cricketer that died had the vax." Yet they discount he also had been infected with COVID. Which isn't benign, just because it ain't killing you if you ain't fat and/or old.
 
While there's undoubtedly non-sense around the vaccines, their side effects. What is known and not disclosed. The big one is what is unknown but can't be talked about. "Safe and effective" is a statement no one informed can actually say honestly with confidence.

It is still always worth mentioning that not everything bad means it's vaccine-related. It can be something else or even a result of getting the COVID. I just often see, "well that bogan Australian cricketer that died had the vax." Yet they discount he also had been infected with COVID. Which isn't benign, just because it ain't killing you if you ain't fat and/or old.
If he was vaccinated and died of the vaccine then it isn't safe, and if he was vaccinated and got the coof and died then it wasn't effective.
 
If he was vaccinated and died of the vaccine then it isn't safe, and if he was vaccinated and got the coof and died then it wasn't effective.
The point is, getting the virus and its ongoing effects is still a thing and a lot of, "ah vaccine does everything bad" are forgetting that. It can still be a case if people got COVID before or after the vax.




I was just googling the bogan Ozzie guy. Two doses of vaccine before getting COVID. Went onto a ventilator, although then claims he didn't need it. Caught covid for a second time not too long before he died. Could be either-or, both, a combination of everything. Who knows.
 
It IS Alabama. It could just be hicks being hicks.
what are you smoking

The U.K. has been investigating at least 74 cases in which children came down with hepatitis, or liver inflammation, the World Health Organization said Friday. Three similar cases in Spain and a few in Ireland are being investigated, the WHO said.
 
The U.S. children ranged in age from 1 to 6 years old
CDC recommends everyone ages 5 years and older get vaccinated to help protect against COVID-19
European Medicines Agency (EMA) approved the use ... for children ages 5-11
Sure would be interesting to know these kid's vaccination status
I'm not even a big fan of the vax but @notafederalagent I think we know the answer to this question in most of these cases and it took me about 3 minutes. Don't embarrass yourself shooting from the hip like this for the love of God.
 
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The point is, getting the virus and its ongoing effects is still a thing and a lot of, "ah vaccine does everything bad" are forgetting that. It can still be a case if people got COVID before or after the vax.

I was just googling the bogan Ozzie guy. Two doses of vaccine before getting COVID. Went onto a ventilator, although then claims he didn't need it. Caught covid for a second time not too long before he died. Could be either-or, both, a combination of everything. Who knows.
I could believe the "long covid" narrative if it wasn't conspicuously used as a dumping ground for symptoms that only started once the vaccine rolled out. Sudden spike in myocarditis after the vax? Oh, that's a long covid symptom now. It wasn't before, but actually it was and we just never noticed for a full year. Blood clots all over the place? All up in them vaccinated veins? Also long covid. It's all long covid, no matter what.

I would be less against the vaccine if they just outright said "yes there's a non-zero chance it'll kill or maim you, and yes there's a fairly high chance it won't actually protect against covid at all, so check out the statistics, weigh your options, and choose accordingly". But no, they just smile and repeat "Safe And Effective" like a cult without actually saying what that even means. And if you even think about interpreting the statistics for yourself, you're a science-hating antivaxxer and should be in prison. The layperson must never see numbers or data. That's heresy.
 
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