Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[Pippeyy]

For Luna to have any kind of actual turnaround in her overall condition could hardly even be considered a recovery, considering that she has not ever had a quality of life. There isn't a hope of regeneration or restoration. If Luna were to experience a change of state, it would be a transformation which has no established precedent of which I am aware.

I agree with each of your statements. Referencing your second one, that is why I consider Robyn to be so charged by her choices and her circumstances. If Luna is to gain a quality of life, Robyn will have to take responsibility for it occurring. If she receives any substantive assistance from a professional who has been trained in our existing system of, ah, "healthcare," it will come from individuals who are derelict from that system: people like Stanley W Jacob, Ronald M Lawrence, Jack C de la Torre, Mark Sircus, Frank Shallenberger, Jim Humble, Jason Eaton, and too many others to name. The consistent elimination of disease states sanctioned impossible by the present paradigm are really too many to name.

I am very obviously annoying as all Hell and not an idiot. Syrup can't function like a human brain. There are too many people out there with a third of the brain mass considered normal who are functioning at the same level as the majority of people to say with any actual realism that Luna cannot develop in a way similar to the "fully functioning."

Your disdain for the propagation of information is noted with a measure of disgust. I suppose your preference would be either for Robyn to continue her current course of strapping Luna up to electrodes, or for her just to murder her.

Can you kindly just not post anymore? You're being a faggot and I'm starting to wonder how much brain damage your own mother inflicted upon you because the number is not zero.

 

[20 Mule Team Lorax]

Yes, I only take some kind of facts not savior porn. Hence, what you read as disgust and distain.

Some advice newfag, lurk more or go back to Tumblr with your fetishes. Your lack of empathy for a dying child and simping of the person who caused it is not boding well for you.

I don't sit well with being misrepresented. I do not at all claim that you are distorting my words, especially because this is a situation where heated emotions and tensions are quite warranted. I think you and I are likely more in agreement than in contention. I responded to your reply to my post at the end of a string of four replies, and I got heated by the end of it. I presented a pejorative, and that was inappropriate. I ask that you excuse me on that count.

In your strict willingness to take in only fact in regard to savior fantasy, I can only express appreciative relation. I think my disposition probably disposes me toward optimistic faith more so than perhaps you might have, our disagreement is not fundamental. The fact and reality is that illnesses which have regarded as incurable are largely in fact not. Multiple Sclerosis has been cured. Cancer has been cured. So-called developmental disorders have been cured. The unprecedented has been accomplished with the consistency of reliable applications of methods. To my knowledge, a condition like Luna's never has. Necessarily, not simply from an understanding of history, but from the understanding of causality, there is no potential avenue to Luna's quality of life but for frontiering, unprecedented solutions.

I'm awfully torn up about Luna and Atlas, and I pray for them. I am very angry at her parents. That's probably out of my lane, but there it is. I don't understand why you think I have a lack of empathy for Luna. I want her to live. If I had no empathy for her, I wouldn't post ITT.

And nigger I'm from 4chan. Do something to advocate for this little girl if you care so much, or go stomp on a cat and get fucked.

 

[Wine em Dine em 69 em]

I don't sit well with being misrepresented. I do not at all claim that you are distorting my words, especially because this is a situation where heated emotions and tensions are quite warranted. I think you and I are likely more in agreement than in contention. I responded to your reply to my post at the end of a string of four replies, and I got heated by the end of it. I presented a pejorative, and that was inappropriate. I ask that you excuse me on that count.

In your strict willingness to take in only fact in regard to savior fantasy, I can only express appreciative relation. I think my disposition probably disposes me toward optimistic faith more so than perhaps you might have, our disagreement is not fundamental. The fact and reality is that illnesses which have regarded as incurable are largely in fact not. Multiple Sclerosis has been cured. Cancer has been cured. So-called developmental disorders have been cured. The unprecedented has been accomplished with the consistency of reliable applications of methods. To my knowledge, a condition like Luna's never has. Necessarily, not simply from an understanding of history, but from the understanding of causality, there is no potential avenue to Luna's quality of life but for frontiering, unprecedented solutions.

I'm awfully torn up about Luna and Atlas, and I pray for them. I am very angry at her parents. That's probably out of my lane, but there it is. I don't understand why you think I have a lack of empathy for Luna. I want her to live. If I had no empathy for her, I wouldn't post ITT.

And nigger I'm from 4chan. Do something to advocate for this little girl if you care so much, or go stomp on a cat and get fucked.

Beyond telling Robyn to stop exploiting her severely brain damaged child who is dying on SM, what do you suggest? We’ve tried shaming her into behaving like a decent human being and here we are at page 352. What say you?
ETA to make it clear, I mean here in KF, not by engaging in any real world or social media way. We archive and comment, that’s all.

 

[PotatoSalad4711]

Your disdain for the propagation of information is noted with a measure of disgust.

Why the hell do you write as if you’re a foreigner who only learned English by reading 14th century British literature?

You’re not “propagating information”. You’re a troll in this thread because you know you’d get eaten alive by posting anywhere else on this site. Enjoy your future threadban.

And nigger I'm from 4chan. Do something to advocate for this little girl if you care so much, or go stomp on a cat and get fucked.

THERE IT IS.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

No, I wouldn't, because it is only barely a fantasy. It's only fantastical by virtue of the reality that isn't occurring. It's outside of the realm of fantasy by virtue of its imminent, realistic possibility. Robyn has indicated in a number of ways that she is not open to much input outside of her already conceived notions, which is why I am posting this here in the hope that she is reading this thread. She appears to block any "outside" suggestions from her social media.

I don't understand the mentality which hopes for seemingly miraculous turnaround recoveries via implementations of proven methods to be considered creepy.

Robyn fucked up horribly, and I don't see her turning to anything that could be radical enough to be viable to turn her child's condition away from total debilitation. I'm very angry with her. I don't scorn her her optimism. Hell, I don't scorn her her efforts. She's got a severe case on her plate of responsibilities; there is the life of a toddler on it.

Health recovery is not a fantasy. She has already, through her misguided actions in dereliction, caused a terminal illness in a baby. She has the responsibility to rearrange her life to rectify that.

Oh for fuck's sake, fuck you, dude.

 

[Fiat Lux XOXO]

I don't sit well with being misrepresented. I do not at all claim that you are distorting my words, especially because this is a situation where heated emotions and tensions are quite warranted. I think you and I are likely more in agreement than in contention. I responded to your reply to my post at the end of a string of four replies, and I got heated by the end of it. I presented a pejorative, and that was inappropriate. I ask that you excuse me on that count.

In your strict willingness to take in only fact in regard to savior fantasy, I can only express appreciative relation. I think my disposition probably disposes me toward optimistic faith more so than perhaps you might have, our disagreement is not fundamental. The fact and reality is that illnesses which have regarded as incurable are largely in fact not. Multiple Sclerosis has been cured. Cancer has been cured. So-called developmental disorders have been cured. The unprecedented has been accomplished with the consistency of reliable applications of methods. To my knowledge, a condition like Luna's never has. Necessarily, not simply from an understanding of history, but from the understanding of causality, there is no potential avenue to Luna's quality of life but for frontiering, unprecedented solutions.

I'm awfully torn up about Luna and Atlas, and I pray for them. I am very angry at her parents. That's probably out of my lane, but there it is. I don't understand why you think I have a lack of empathy for Luna. I want her to live. If I had no empathy for her, I wouldn't post ITT.

And nigger I'm from 4chan. Do something to advocate for this little girl if you care so much, or go stomp on a cat and get fucked.

Dude, wtf is wrong with your writing? Are you trying to appear smarter and more educated that the rest of us? Robyn, is that you?

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

I am very obviously annoying as all Hell. I have access to thesaurus.com and I enjoy auto-complete features more than I should. Nobody has ever told me to shut up and it shows. Watching Robyn eye-fuck her phone gives me a boner and I cope with it by making up prose so purple it's practically ultraviolet. Blah blah blah blah breastfeeding sexy I would be a better parent to poor babby Luna nobody reads my wattpad fanfiction

Aw, did the metastatic worms get you too?
I've heard if you coat your entire body in extra virgin olive oil it'll cure whatever it is you've got going on that makes you think anyone wants to read your bullshit.

 

[20 Mule Team Lorax]

Beyond telling Robyn to stop exploiting her severely brain damaged child who is dying on SM, what do you suggest? We’ve tried shaming her into behaving like a decent human being and here we are at page 352. What say you?
ETA to make it clear, I mean here in KF, not by engaging in any real world or social media way. We archive and comment, that’s all.

I say that Luna's being alive is already a miracle. I say Robyn's methods are so largely dubious that I wouldn't even think of vouching for them, but I do think through her care for Luna she is doing something right. Likely if she were not a focus of intense parental attention and care, she would probably have died by now.

I'm saying again that a curing of a condition like Luna's is unprecedented to my knowledge. I will say that I do not think there is a circumstance viable wherein Luna could be placed into a course of development which could be, in a broad sense, considered normal.

I suppose the crux of what I am saying is that there are a host of methods which have cured/eliminated diseases which are considered by our existing medical paradigm to be incurable. I can't apply this to Luna in any direct way. There isn't a precedent.

There is hardly a way to say this directly. I hardly even care to! I don't give a damn about some medical conspiracy to keep people sick, as many allege. I care about quality of life.

People have recovered from diseases which eat away at their nerves by taking consistent, graduated doses of chemicals which their own bodies produce already, like methylsulfonulmethane. People have eliminated cancer by taking hypochlorous acid, a staple of the human immune system. People have eliminated cysts in their brains by taking vermifuges! "Horse/dog dewormer"! My God.

Luna's alive. Melatonin has cured dementia and Alzheimer's. My God, Robyn is is taking pictures for Instagram. There's the whole thing where the bulk of the lymph system connects the large intestine and brain. Robyn is strapping electrodes to Luna's head and doing fucking Reiki.

There's a whole-ass rant. If it were up to me, Robyn would have those kids taken away. I don't have words for this. I mean that in the light of my long-winded "Hey, try this"es. Kids are more valuable than their parents. Luna deserves a life by virtue of her existence.

 

[Fareal]

Luna deserves release from her suffering. May God in His mercy grant her that release gently.

 

[BlisterInTheSun]

Why the hell do you write as if you’re a foreigner who only learned English by reading 14th century British literature?

Dude that is hilarious. I burst out laughing when I read it.

 

[Wine em Dine em 69 em]

I say that Luna's being alive is already a miracle. I say Robyn's methods are so largely dubious that I wouldn't even think of vouching for them, but I do think through her care for Luna she is doing something right. Likely if she were not a focus of intense parental attention and care, she would probably have died by now.

I'm saying again that a curing of a condition like Luna's is unprecedented to my knowledge. I will say that I do not think there is a circumstance viable wherein Luna could be placed into a course of development which could be, in a broad sense, considered normal.

I suppose the crux of what I am saying is that there are a host of methods which have cured/eliminated diseases which are considered by our existing medical paradigm to be incurable. I can't apply this to Luna in any direct way. There isn't a precedent.

There is hardly a way to say this directly. I hardly even care to! I don't give a damn about some medical conspiracy to keep people sick, as many allege. I care about quality of life.

People have recovered from diseases which eat away at their nerves by taking consistent, graduated doses of chemicals which their own bodies produce already, like methylsulfonulmethane. People have eliminated cancer by taking hypochlorous acid, a staple of the human immune system. People have eliminated cysts in their brains by taking vermifuges! "Horse/dog dewormer"! My God.

Luna's alive. Melatonin has cured dementia and Alzheimer's. My God, Robyn is is taking pictures for Instagram. There's the whole thing where the bulk of the lymph system connects the large intestine and brain. Robyn is strapping electrodes to Luna's head and doing fucking Reiki.

There's a whole-ass rant. If it were up to me, Robyn would have those kids taken away. I don't have words for this. I mean that in the light of my long-winded "Hey, try this"es. Kids are more valuable than their parents. Luna deserves a life by virtue of her existence.

Just curious, have you read the thread from the beginning? Because this has all been covered.
While I’m sure the theories about the lymph & large intestine are very promising, it’s off-topic wrt Luna. Nothing will fix her. Her head is full of cysts and that will never change.
Robyn is the interesting specimen here.

 

[Jetty2maxx]

Glenn was home wearing regular clothes round 8am PDT when Robyn posted that uncomfortable interaction this morning. I'm guessing he lost his job? Shouldnt he have been high out of his mind complaining about the news on his commute in to work at 8am on a weekday?

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Wine em Dine em 69 em]

How many PT mistakes do you see in this screenshot and the video it came from?
To be honest, this one upsets me. Look at her, why are they still putting her through this?

 

[Barbarella]

It shocks me that each time Luna seizes her mother and PT go “good girl” like it’s a purposeful move. Robyn has to watch these videos before she posts, and she still can’t see it? Delusion is fascinating. She couldn’t tell her baby was starving so nothing has changed-I thought having Atlas might have given her a dose of reality, but I guess not.

It’s quite clear that Luna has deteriorated from what little there was. She wasn’t really there before but now she can’t do even minor things she did before. Even her hand up and down movements have diminished. She’ll stop breathing next. Those glasses will arrive too late for the show.

Don’t pay attention to the troll. He doesn’t know stickers aren’t money so he’s trying to collect negative ones to cash in, and is using flowery language and fake news to irritate. Just put him on ignore or scroll past so the thread isn’t derailed too much.

Luna is already pretty much dead so my sympathies are gone. She feels nothing, she knows nothing and she’s just a faltering brain stem. Now I find it interesting how her mother continues in her fantasy world. When Luna dies, her sand castles should come dashing down, but she’s built up this woo world where communication with Luna is telepathic. When Luna is no longer “earthside”, I suspect we’ll hear a lot about how Luna is doing starside, or wherever Robyn things she’ll be.

 

[LonesomeDud]

How many PT mistakes do you see in this screenshot and the video it came from?
To be honest, this one upsets me. Look at her, why are they still putting her through this?
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I don't know a lot about PT, but are her feet going the wrong way?

 

[The-Mad-Asshatter]

. When Luna is no longer “earthside”, I suspect we’ll hear a lot about how Luna is doing starside, or wherever Robyn things she’ll be.

I wonder if she'll preserve Luna in some way after she dies.

These types dry out their placentas, they idolize motherhood and their identity as mothers to an unhealthy level, and too many of these people are into extreme woo beliefs and pick-and-choose spirituality.

What's not to say she tries to keep the object of her veneration through home mummification?

 

[Ashkatesydlli]

How many PT mistakes do you see in this screenshot and the video it came from?
To be honest, this one upsets me. Look at her, why are they still putting her through this?
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The trexo robotics Instagram has a post about how their walking robot is good for neuroplasticity. They state it can help to rebuild and balance brain development.
I’d guess Robyn has taken that to mean there’s an opportunity to regrow Luna’s brain so now she’s gotta be pushed around in the walker until Robyn finds a new miracle cure to fixate on.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I don't know a lot about PT, but are her feet going the wrong way?

Her contractures are so severe her feet are deformed.

 

[Wine em Dine em 69 em]

Her contractures are so severe her feet are deformed.

Right, she has rocker bottom feet, she’s dragging her right leg to the point the pt has to move it for her, and both feet are pointed SIDEWAYS, and I suspect forcing her to move her legs like that is damaging her structure from the hips down.
That whole contraption doesn’t fit Luna, her hands are supposed to reach the two black rings in front to bear some of her weight. The PT should definitely not be crouching or kneeling behind the chair to push it, that is not safe for her or Luna. I’ve seen PT’s put weight on Luna’s shoulders, arms, and now her effing ponytails. Nothing about this is appropriate and they’ve been using it for how long now? There’s better ways to provide PT and I don’t believe any reputable person would condone this.
I don’t know if Luna feels pain, but I err on the side of caution and assume she does and cannot express it. The fact that 3 adults are involved in this scene is beyond any normal measure of parental care or physical therapy and it actually got to me almost as much as the Luna starving photos.
I assume Robyn is doing this to show trexo that Luna is a great candidate for their walker, the stupid cow.
Also fuck each of Robyn’s Instagram followers that support this misery. It’s strange how there’s never any comments asking normal questions.
End of rant.