Wuhan Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread 2: Booster Shot - Resume all Corona sperging here.

[SCSI]

They're not appealing because they want mask mandates back on planes right this instant, they're appealing so that they can keep the authority to do so again whenever they want (like shortly after the election) and have a precedent that allows them to completely sidestep limits on power so they can implement other mandates via the same (non)process they did for mask mandates.

Yup, but they've picked a weak case with which to try to pursue this goal. Right now, this ruling's precedential value is likely pretty limited with regards to matters beyond Covid in its current state, despite how aggressive it reads. But if they drag this out all the way to the top, they potentially open a can of worms about the extent of the CDC's hard power, and they do so after racking up a string of losses in court and at a time when judicial and public opinion are increasingly hostile. Even administration-friendly outlets like NPR are sounding a note of caution on pursuing this further. (Archive) But the Biden admin is positively fucking allergic to passing actual laws to grant its agencies power, rather than just trying to asspull it via executive branch orders, so they're probably going to run straight off the cliff after the Roadrunner. Again.

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News snippet from Moderna. They're hyping some hawt new bigender bisexual bivalent tranny mRNA as their next CoVax product. (Archive) They claim that blending together Original Recipe Wuhan with Beta (?!??) in a mixed berry blast gives it "stronger, longer lasting" flavor effect vs Omicron. (Study attached.)

The pharmaceutical company Moderna announced Tuesday that a new version of the company's COVID-19 vaccine appears to provide stronger, longer-lasting protection against variants of the virus than the original vaccine.

Preliminary results from a study testing a vaccine that targets both the original strain of the virus and the beta variant — a so-called "bivalent" vaccine — appears to produce high levels of antibodies for months that can neutralize the virus.

Bancel added that another bivalent vaccine that combines the original strain with the omicron strain "remains our lead candidate" for a fall vaccination campaign aimed at protecting people against a winter surge. Results from the testing of that version are expect later this spring, according to Moderna.

"We believe that a bivalent booster vaccine, if authorized, would create a new tool as we continue to respond to emerging variants," Bancel said.

The study has not yet been reviewed by independent scientists and produced mixed reactions from outside experts.

What's interesting about this, beyond the research paper about a brand new permutation of mRNA tech that some here might enjoy (paging @Drain Todger and @Lichen Bark ), is the reactions from other, non-affiliated researchers included in the article. They're actually covering hype-busters this time.

John Moore, an immunologist at Weil Cornell Medicine, called the results "unimpressive" in an email to NPR. "What's here is unlikely to support the rollout of this type of bivalent vaccine — the benefits would not justify the expense and hassle."

Dr. Celine Gounder, an infectious disease expert at Kaiser Health News, said the company's announcement "seems misleading" because it compared the antibodies from just two doses of the original vaccine with a third dose of the new vaccine.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The problem with that theory is that there is fairly solid evidence that Moderna, NIH, USAID, DARPA, and DTRA were involved in the creation of the actual virus itself

For my part, I don't think they anticipated the side effects of the treatments.

edit: Fun thing. RNA is capable of "cooperation" and evolution over time. Relevance only because messenger RNA is involved. I find it unlikely that the mRNA remains unmolested in the body long enough to do this, but I do wonder if mRNA doses left long enough might start to interact in unpredictable ways. RNA by itself doesn't last long, which is why the pfizer et al treatments require extreme chilling. The lipid nanoparticle probably also acts as something of a stabiliser. It would all depend, I suppose, on whether the mRNA strings contain any potential replicase sequences. There's no guarantee that every single RNA fragment in the doses is pure and undamaged.

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-designed-their-own-evolving-rna-soup-for-the-first-time

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-29113-x

Unlikely as fuck. Just a fun thought.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Just heard the news a while ago and they're dusting off the whole only the unvaxxed are being hospitalized thing. They dialed it down a little. They said that ~30% were vaxxed.

They were blurting that shit all through out last year up to sometime in January or February. Are they planning another round of restrictions and reinvigorating the vaccination apartheid?

 

[Super-Chevy454]

It'll feel like Christmas for all of us the rest of this decade as we deal with record high inflation, economic collapse, and potential famine, hyperinflation, and global nuclear war as the Great Reset is accelerated. Have fun working the same or more hours for just enough money to afford gas and a soyburger (since you can't afford a real burger). We'll all be wishing we were back in 2020 getting free money from the government, not dealing with traffic, and still managing to get anything we wanted at the store, off the internet, etc.

At this rate, we'll all be wishing then we're back in 2001 before 9-11...

 

[Puff]

But the Biden admin is positively fucking allergic to passing actual laws to grant its agencies power, rather than just trying to asspull it via executive branch orders, so they're probably going to run straight off the cliff after the Roadrunner. Again.

The next republican in power would be retarded not to try and pare back the bureaucratic state. Meaning they will likely just use it for their own ends.

 

[introvertedobserver]

Are they planning another round of restrictions and reinvigorating the vaccination apartheid?

Yeah, right after elections, if things go their way.

It's pretty plain to see given how the hardline politically active on that side of the isle view the issue (they think restrictions should still be in place or made permanent).

After the elections, politicians will swing back to catering to them, and the first uptick in cases from whatever new variant comes out around that time will result in a wave of restrictions coming back "out of an abundance of caution" for a year or so until the next election cycle begins, at least in the states that were the most authoritarian during the past 2 years.

Depending on how the election goes (Republicans taking the house and senate), federal mandates might come to a halt though at least, since Biden's handlers don't want him vetoing "freedom" which'll end up screwing him hard in 2024 if he's still around and does run like the rumor mill is suggesting.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

It's literally the only thing that works sometimes. Particularly if you've got the awful fucking cystic acne which is less "pimples and blackheads" and more "massive bulbous pustules".

But yeah, accutane courses are nasty. When "suicide" is listed as a no-shit side effect of a medicine that you need to be on the lookout for, then you know you're dealing with some serious medication.

It's also used in some forms of cancer treatment. Most of the box is covered in warning labels. It looks like you're handling toxic waste.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

I mentioned young children (<10 years old) getting hepatitis from the vaccine. My branch Covidian friend immediately said that it must have been from the virus itself and not from the vaccine. Nevermind the fact that children have been getting sick from the actual virus for about a year and a half before the vaccine was approved for their age range, and no such autoimmune hepatitis conditions were reported en masse beforehand. She also acknowledged that the 60% efficacy rate of the vaccines, but immediately defended it by saying that it at least was better than the Russian Sputnik vaccine's efficacy rate. The delusion runs strong.

Plague Inc was a mistake.

One of the most aggravating things about the past two years is how all the fucking SCIENCE LOVERS dogmatically go along with creationist-tier logic about how covid supposedly works and when you give them actual, basic science like evolutionary pressures on pathogens they yell FAR RIGHT RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY

 

[Rei is shit]

Is this good or bad for EAs stock price?

 

[borsabil]

Yeah, right after elections, if things go their way.

It's pretty plain to see given how the hardline politically active on that side of the isle view the issue (they think restrictions should still be in place or made permanent).

After the elections, politicians will swing back to catering to them, and the first uptick in cases from whatever new variant comes out around that time will result in a wave of restrictions coming back "out of an abundance of caution" for a year or so until the next election cycle begins, at least in the states that were the most authoritarian during the past 2 years.

Depending on how the election goes (Republicans taking the house and senate), federal mandates might come to a halt though at least, since Biden's handlers don't want him vetoing "freedom" which'll end up screwing him hard in 2024 if he's still around and does run like the rumor mill is suggesting.

Polling shows the Democrats doing worse among Hispanics than whites. This is an extinction level indicator, any rational political actor would be clamoring to save the furniture and punting any notion of actually winning the mid terms into the long grass. Instead they're doubling down which is bat shit insane.

If inflation ramps up in the coming months, which is all but baked in, Biden will be dealing with a Republican super majority in the house and close to that in the Senate. Biden should be tacking HARD to the center, but it isn't happening.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

DOOM 2016 predicted everything.

Though it could've mentioned that the demons will be less of the scary monster types and far more of the gay pedo crybaby faggot types.

 

[Protistology]

Polling shows the Democrats doing worse among Hispanics than whites. This is an extinction level indicator, any rational political actor would be clamoring to save the furniture and punting any notion of actually winning the mid terms into the long grass. Instead they're doubling down which is bat shit insane.

If inflation ramps up in the coming months, which is all but baked in, Biden will be dealing with a Republican super majority in the house and close to that in the Senate. Biden should be tacking HARD to the center, but it isn't happening.

There will be another outbreak, another lockdown, and more mail in only voting.

 

[NyQuilninja]

Well get vaccinated or fight for your life on a ventilator

Neck your self niggercattle

 

[Drain Todger]

Plague Inc was a mistake.

One of the most aggravating things about the past two years is how all the fucking SCIENCE LOVERS dogmatically go along with creationist-tier logic about how covid supposedly works and when you give them actual, basic science like evolutionary pressures on pathogens they yell FAR RIGHT RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY

It really goes to show that when people say "citation needed", they don't give a rat's ass about evidence. Any evidence you provide in the way of primary journal sources, they will dismiss out of hand, or they'll argue that you lack the technical knowledge to interpret the evidence either way.

Scientism is absolutely ridiculous. It's literally idol-worship. Like a cargo cult. They don't understand the science, and they don't want to put forth the effort to understand it. To understand it would be to trespass upon its sanctity, to tread upon holy ground, to violate a taboo.

Well, soon, it'll all be over. The evidence will be too much for people to ignore. Embalmers are pulling foot-plus-long clots out of dead bodies that look like fucking snakes.

Spoiler: NSFL

 

[Lichen Bark]

Yup, but they've picked a weak case with which to try to pursue this goal. Right now, this ruling's precedential value is likely pretty limited with regards to matters beyond Covid in its current state, despite how aggressive it reads. But if they drag this out all the way to the top, they potentially open a can of worms about the extent of the CDC's hard power, and they do so after racking up a string of losses in court and at a time when judicial and public opinion are increasingly hostile. Even administration-friendly outlets like NPR are sounding a note of caution on pursuing this further. (Archive) But the Biden admin is positively fucking allergic to passing actual laws to grant its agencies power, rather than just trying to asspull it via executive branch orders, so they're probably going to run straight off the cliff after the Roadrunner. Again.

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News snippet from Moderna. They're hyping some hawt new bigender bisexual bivalent tranny mRNA as their next CoVax product. (Archive) They claim that blending together Original Recipe Wuhan with Beta (?!??) in a mixed berry blast gives it "stronger, longer lasting" flavor effect vs Omicron. (Study attached.)




What's interesting about this, beyond the research paper about a brand new permutation of mRNA tech that some here might enjoy (paging @Drain Todger and @Lichen Bark ), is the reactions from other, non-affiliated researchers included in the article. They're actually covering hype-busters this time.

I read the Moderna booster trial paper, and this song started playing in my head. Interesting, a grade 3 adverse event is defined by the National Library of Medicine as:
"Severe or medically significant but not immediately life-threatening; hospitalization or prolongation of hospitalization indicated; disabling; limiting self care activities of daily living."

I wonder what percentage of people experienced disabling adverse events? I am going to combine the local (I guess in the area of the injection site) and systemic (whole body) adverse events into one number. (As an aside can you imagine what a level 3 local adverse event looks like? Is your arm so fucked you need hospitalization/are disabled lmao)

Dose (Moderna Booster)​	Total Level 3 Adverse events reported (within 7 days)​
50 micrograms of mRNA 1273.211​	11% of recipients ( 33/298 )​
100 micrograms of mRNA 1273.211​	17.7% of recipients ( 105/593 )​

Now lets all chant safe and effective now! I have to stress this was within a narrow 7 day period. They are approaching a 20% chance for a "medically significant" Adverse event in the 100 microgram category, but don't worry they said they'd follow these test subjects for 12 months, again don't worry I'm sure these numbers will get worse better. I'm sure nothing will happen past this 12 month observation period either, and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

Spoiler: Source

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1555201/v1
Archive: https://archive.vn/YX5ko

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Plague Inc was a mistake.

One of the most aggravating things about the past two years is how all the fucking SCIENCE LOVERS dogmatically go along with creationist-tier logic about how covid supposedly works and when you give them actual, basic science like evolutionary pressures on pathogens they yell FAR RIGHT RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY

The memes about the hardest difficulty don't help either. Countries are set to be cartoonishly hypersensitive to any small amount of illness anywhere in the world and threaten lockdowns if they hear someone sneeze a few thousand miles away. The best strategy for spreading your apocalypse disease is to make it as asymptomatic as possible while hoarding upgrade points so nobody worries about it....then once every country has a sizeable number of infected you blitz your upgrades and mutate as much infectiousness and organ melting into it as you can all at once.

Which is sorcery if you apply the logic to the real world. But Covidians are afraid of Covid because it's that barely noticeable nothing of a disease that could suddenly mutate in every host at once, any moment now, we swear! Just you wait. You think it's a cold now, but the player could be biding his time and sitting on those upgrade points.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

Plague Inc was a mistake.

Just want to chime in here and say that it was highly suspicious how "The Cure" mode of the game was released back in February 2021 and was declared free-to-play until a vaccine was developed - and how closely the developers worked with groups like the WHO.

 

[Confused Doggo]

Just want to chime in here and say that it was highly suspicious how "The Cure" mode of the game was released back in February 2001 and was declared free-to-play until a vaccine was developed - and how closely the developers worked with groups like the WHO.

Might want to fix your year there.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

Might want to fix your year there.

You're right - it only feels like it's been going on for decades by this point.

Also, thanks.

 

[The handsome tard]

Its been a while since I posted here but to give an update

The mask mandates were dropped in my state but that doesnt mean that the mental illness caused by the last 3 years of social and mental indocrination is going away anytime soon.

Most of my employees dropped the mask, a few kept it but, to be fair, I dont care. I dont find the ones that kept it to have the prettiest of faces so its a win win.

I'd say 70% of my clients dropped the masks after the first 2 weeks without the mandates, almost like they were waiting if there wouldnt be the mythical "spike in cases" that always seems to happen when the media wants to gain something from it.

It didnt, at least not on the same level it did, perhaps they knew people were just done with this.

But I still ocassionally see clients with these heavy set masks like they are in a softcore chemical warefare with the world.

And Im like "What keeps you going at this point? Nearly everyone around you has stopped, why you persist?! WHY MR MASKER, WHY, WHY YOU STILL PERSIST?!"



I just literally cant stand their sight anymore, they are like constantly reminding me that this is still not yet finished, no matter how much I and many others want it to be.

Just...how...why...and when....

The way the Covidians are clinging to the last remnants of WuFlu is just absolutely baffling. So far it's just the airlines announcing that they won't force people to wear a mask on their planes, and suddenly the NPC's are freaking the fuck out like airline crews are going to personally walk up and down the aisles and cough infected phlegm directly into everyones' eyes throughout the duration of all flights moving forward. These same Covidians love to be so smug about how they're not dying in droves like MAGApede Boomers, yet their own fear and paranoia blatantly highlight their own doubts of the effectiveness of masks and vaccines.

You have @Invisible Crane shrieking that we're all doomed because we don't wear a mask and because a lot of us aren't jabbed -- yet if masks and vaccines actually worked, they [Covidians] shouldn't care because logically they're safe whilst we're all allegedly super-spreaders.

The fucking Twitterfag and Redditard arguments of "vaccines are like seatbelts!" is a godamn retarded joke of an analogy, because it suggests your seatbelt won't work unless everyone is wearing their seatbelts too. If you faggot NPC cucks truly believed your masks and 3-4 jabs will protect you against the virus, then you should stop screeching and being paranoid about the unvaccinated as well as the airlines for dropping mask mandates. Your true reaction should be something along the lines of, "Well, I'm wearing a mask and getting my booster for my own safety: if you get sick, it's your funeral." *shrugs* -- not a complete and utter meltdown like you're having now.

I think we are looking this the wrong way.

These people dont fear Covid

They fear being proven wrong about Covid and their egos being hurt by that.
Thats how far this goes. Deep down, they fear being proven wrong that badly.

I mentioned young children (<10 years old) getting hepatitis from the vaccine. My branch Covidian friend immediately said that it must have been from the virus itself and not from the vaccine. Nevermind the fact that children have been getting sick from the actual virus for about a year and a half before the vaccine was approved for their age range, and no such autoimmune hepatitis conditions were reported en masse beforehand. She also acknowledged that the 60% efficacy rate of the vaccines, but immediately defended it by saying that it at least was better than the Russian Sputnik vaccine's efficacy rate. The delusion runs strong.

The useful idiot-ness runs strong you mean.

They can hear the butcher slashing their friends and family in the next room and will say thats them giving them a massage.

It also doesn't help the fact that there are pilots in place around the world who are dying from heart related diseases while driving on the plane as a result of being forced to follow the measures including getting the jab as a whole while people are expected to comply and follow the narrative as well.

Well, the advantage of a plane crash is that it leaves no survivors and very little useful organic matter for any conclusions to be made

*smiles sinisterly*

I'm curious how the covidians will take hearing "it was your choice to take the shot. Nobody forced you." from the people they placed their trust in as more and more adverse reactions and negative health effects come out and eventually cannot be ignored.

Don't get me wrong, it looks like the effects of this will happen over a long enough timeline one *could* insist on plausible denaibility on the shot being the case but I feel like denials like the prime ministers earlier draw attention to the connection.

I think there are people that will, without any hint of shame, refuse to associate their sickness with the vaccines. All for the reason that, by doing so, they would prove the people they shunned for years to be right all along. Nobody from the modern era can handle that amount of shame and self loathing.