Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation 22.04.2022 (09:51)
Russian servicemen are helping the population to restore peaceful life in the settlements liberated from the nationalists

In the Kharkov region, in settlements liberated from nationalist battalions, Russian servicemen help the population to restore peaceful life and, with the support of local residents, participate in the organization of daily life.

Humanitarian cargo is also delivered to the population, primary medical care is provided. People with chronic diseases and in need of inpatient medical care are taken to specialized medical institutions.

I was watching a Tasks & Purpose video, this Iraq Vet YouTuber, and he was mentioning how stuff like that really upsets him and makes him uncomfortable because "It makes what the US did in Iraq seem like propaganda too!"

 

[draggs]

I don't think WW3 would last long enough for any of the combatants to need to worry about building new carriers, submarines or guided missile destroyers.

I think WW3 will be a conventional war

Only Russia and the US have enough warheads to wipe out the enemy, China trying to catch up

With nuclear submarines and regular old multiple warhead ICBMs there is still no way to defend against nukes never mind the new generation of missiles

Nukes are more useful as an "okay you're winning now let's negotiate we will use our nukes rather than face total defeat" than they would be if actually used. MAD still real at least for the US-Russia and it will be for US-China too fairly soon

 

[kuuu]

I think WW3 will be a conventional war

We live it right now by every metric.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Really? The US produced an amount of steel in 2020 that was 14.5x the total tonnage of the US Navy. Japan about 18.5x. South Korea about 13.5x. Germany and Turkey about 7x each

China does not have the ability to prevent the US from replacing materiel losses in a war because muh steel

Where do you guys come up with these completely retarded statements? Google is right there. Use it ffs. All the major powers have the ability to produce way more than enough steel to fight a long, bloody war

On that note, here's where the U.S. gets it's Iron and Steel from, they're a net importer but still export a significant amount. Plus their top 5 imports are from Canada, Brazil, Mexico, South Korea, and Japan. China is actually a fast growing export destination from the US for them.

So no, China can't cut off any of the top 3 imports of Iron or Steel to the US because they belong to Canada, Brazil, and Mexico, and can only realistically hope to cut off two of the top five which are South Korea and Japan, and the US still makes around 70 or so percent of it's own Iron and Steel. This is assuming they can actually blockade them, which is a whole other matter.

 

[draggs]

We live it right now by every metric.

No we don't

You'll know if the world's industrial powers go total war

This ain't it

 

[kuuu]

No we don't

You'll know if the world's industrial powers go total war

This ain't it

Eh, depends on definitions.
Is it all out war yet? No. Nukes are there to prevent it.
Is it global east powers vs west powers? Pretty much, yes.

 

[IKOL]

No we don't

You'll know if the world's industrial powers go total war

This ain't it

right, that's just two slavnigger districts having a bash-on-bash.

Which is why I sincerely wish other interfering countries to fuck off and don't bother, we'll resolve our beefs on our own.

But of course, Boris Cucksohn and pedo Joe shall put their retarded Moses here.

 

[Wrangel1926]

On that note, here's where the U.S. gets it's Iron and Steel from, they're a net importer but still export a significant amount. Plus their top 5 imports are from Canada, Brazil, Mexico, South Korea, and Japan. China is actually a fast growing export destination from the US for them.
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So no, China can't cut off any of the top 3 imports of Iron or Steel to the US because they belong to Canada, Brazil, and Mexico, and can only realistically hope to cut off two of the top five which are South Korea and Japan, and the US still makes around 70 or so percent of it's own Iron and Steel. This is assuming they can actually blockade them, which is a whole other matter.

Before we risk devolving into yet another 2-3 page long autistic slapfight over iron and steel production numbers and markets, there's an important factor not being considered: The grades of that very same iron and steel. The site itself seems to want to nickel and dime for the more specific details, but unfortunately I don't think it lists the grades. The only real way to resolve this mess would be to figure out the production (or rather maximum potential production) of shipbuilding grade steel in the US and China, which is probably a massive pain in the ass to figure out specifically without already being in the industry. That being said, my educated guess would be that most of it isn't manufactured in China or exported to the US.

 

[White_N]

Cruise missile flight. Odessa

One of the hits in Odessa. Several more explosions are also heard.

A powerful explosion was reported from the field in Odessa. Details are being clarified.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

We live it right now by every metric.

Nah. This is barely Korean War tier so far. Getting pretty major, but by no means WWIII. A proxy war between NATO and Russia? Sure this can be reasonably described as that. But even a conventional war between NATO and Russia to just drive Russia out of Ukraine probably wouldn't be remembered as WWIII.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Well, two months in and Russias gains in this war are still largely centered on what they took in the first 72 hours.

This Donbass offensive is pretty much the last shot of securing Russian objectives before their forces in Ukraine will need a significant reinforcement and reorganization. That could take anywhere from 1 to 3 months. Another offensive like this would not be viable until at least July. By then Ukraine will also have done the same.

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

I was watching a Tasks & Purpose video, this Iraq Vet YouTuber, and he was mentioning how stuff like that really upsets him and makes him uncomfortable because "It makes what the US did in Iraq seem like propaganda too!"

Link?

 

[kuuu]

Nah. This is barely Korean War tier so far. Getting pretty major, but by no means WWIII. A proxy war between NATO and Russia? Sure this can be reasonably described as that. But even a conventional war between NATO and Russia to just drive Russia out of Ukraine probably wouldn't be remembered as WWIII.

Korean war was part of WWIII, so was Cold war, so was Vietnam, so was Georgia, so was Cuba, so were Middle Eastern conflicts. Ukraine is yet another major escalation of said conflict.
But as I've already wrote, this is largely semantics.

 

[White_N]

Zelensky liked the post of the Russian Defense Ministry with a Sarmat missile.

????

 

[kuuu]

Zelensky liked the post of the Russian Defense Ministry with a Sarmat missile.

????

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Must be one of his benders.
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[Ponzo]

The Russians found a shit ton of ammunition near Balakleya in the Kharkiv region meant for the Ukranian army to use for tanks, artillery and anti-aircraft missile systems.

Thanks Biden!

 

[JosephStalin]

Interesting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/world-governments-confront-grim-ukraine-toll/ar-AAWw17r?li=BBnb7Kz

https://archive.ph/ZNPEO

 

[JosephStalin]

The Russians found a shit ton of ammunition near Balakleya in the Kharkiv region meant for the Ukranian army to use for tanks, artillery and anti-aircraft missile systems.

Thanks Biden!

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Saw no US markings. Also believe the Ukes have captured their share of Russian munitions.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Interesting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/world-governments-confront-grim-ukraine-toll/ar-AAWw17r?li=BBnb7Kz

https://archive.ph/ZNPEO

Yes, that worked wonders in Iraq and Afghanistan. We paid for it, in money and blood, and got nothing in return (except for contractors and their investors, ie the US Congress).

 

[Ponzo]

Saw no US markings. Also believe the Ukes have captured their share of Russian munitions.

The first few seconds you can see m73 he mortar shells which i believe had UN markings at the bottom right but i could be wrong

Here is more footage of found stuff

The russians also claim that secret regulations and manuals of the US Army were found at the Azov base near Mariupol, in particular for intelligence units