Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[Never Scored]

You're a fool if you think they're ever coming off the balance sheets. Louis Rossmann is good for talking about how real estate in NYC is fucked and some of the buildings have gone multiple decades without occupancy, Blackrock has so much money that they will never be in a position where they need to sell these properties off. What you're witnessing is the modern version of Enclosure, something that occurred over the late Medieval and Early Modern Period in Britain that ended up with the landed magnates devouring the country to the detriment of the peasantry. This cycle has happened over and over in history. In Roman history you have a period of time between the Gracchi Brothers to Julius Caesar himself trying to fix the issue of landed magnates devouring the countryside and replacing the labor with slaves, A large portion of the Crusades was dictated over the the fact that land was at maximum carrying capacity and the Pope wanted to direct the violence out of Christendom, a problem that didn't get resolved until the Black Death killed half if not two thirds of all people in Europe.

This phenomenon is new to the American experience, mass purchasing of land like this was viewed as a taboo and the required funds just outright did not exist, the old Robber Barons of the Gilded Era would be repulsed by the conduct of these dip shits, they were vicious pieces of shit but a large part of their wealth was just civic improvements in an effort to aggrandize their legacy. There was attempts of course, Company Towns are a largely reviled part of US history and the song Sixteen Tons is a folk song describing how awful the whole experience was. But these Company Towns largely died the moment the "Company" went out of business and turned into ghost towns. Blackrock, Bill Gates are doing what was previously unthinkable and have begun to purchase prime real estate in large quantity with the goal to turn the population of the US into permanent renters. Its hard to come up with historical examples of such a large scale shock in the sovereignty of the individual, maybe Diocletian's reforms which turned the average Roman citizen into proto-serfs.

I think this is what's happening as well and I've been saying online for a couple years now. People, especially in cities, are getting turned into these neo-serfs who will never be able to retire because they will always be at the mercy of a landlord. "Can't afford rent and groceries? Not problem, we'll just give you some unsecured credit and you can pay us back later." But you're never going to manage to pay them back because rent and the cost of food will keep going up and your pay won't keep up with that inflation.

The sad part is mass immigration is going to stop any kind of population decline in the other direction. So unless people in third world shitholes suddenly stop having kids, there are going to be lots of people to buoy the rental market and ensure a steady stream of serfs.

 

[the fall of man]

You're a fool if you think they're ever coming off the balance sheets. Louis Rossmann is good for talking about how real estate in NYC is fucked and some of the buildings have gone multiple decades without occupancy, Blackrock has so much money that they will never be in a position where they need to sell these properties off. What you're witnessing is the modern version of Enclosure, something that occurred over the late Medieval and Early Modern Period in Britain that ended up with the landed magnates devouring the country to the detriment of the peasantry. This cycle has happened over and over in history. In Roman history you have a period of time between the Gracchi Brothers to Julius Caesar himself trying to fix the issue of landed magnates devouring the countryside and replacing the labor with slaves, A large portion of the Crusades was dictated over the the fact that land was at maximum carrying capacity and the Pope wanted to direct the violence out of Christendom, a problem that didn't get resolved until the Black Death killed half if not two thirds of all people in Europe.

This phenomenon is new to the American experience, mass purchasing of land like this was viewed as a taboo and the required funds just outright did not exist, the old Robber Barons of the Gilded Era would be repulsed by the conduct of these dip shits, they were vicious pieces of shit but a large part of their wealth was just civic improvements in an effort to aggrandize their legacy. There was attempts of course, Company Towns are a largely reviled part of US history and the song Sixteen Tons is a folk song describing how awful the whole experience was. But these Company Towns largely died the moment the "Company" went out of business and turned into ghost towns. Blackrock, Bill Gates are doing what was previously unthinkable and have begun to purchase prime real estate in large quantity with the goal to turn the population of the US into permanent renters. Its hard to come up with historical examples of such a large scale shock in the sovereignty of the individual, maybe Diocletian's reforms which turned the average Roman citizen into proto-serfs.

The railroad barons also got an enormous part of the west, including checkerboard-shaped land grants in cities, in hopes they'd promote development, while the railroad market became incredibly overheated and investor gold flew off to Europe (leading to a more powerful Greenback party). Congress eventually reclaimed the grants; it helps that America flies into a trust-busting wave on occasion after massive control is exercised (Standard Oil, Ma Bell). I don't deny that permanent change is possible, only that there are so many powerful players in America that I have to ask: will it really be Blackrock? And will it really be now?

Perhaps it will. I'd love to see how it plays out against California's statewide rent control, even if it's a net negative for society; I expect we'd see a political change in California, and that would create ripples of its own. It absolutely can happen. I wonder if it will.

Edit: Blackrock is involved in the monetary affairs of several large governments, including the US and Canada; they definitely do have power on a scale that has rarely been seen before. I don't mean to imply this is a purely national problem, or can be solved on a national level.

 

[Ow The Edge]

The sad part is mass immigration is going to stop any kind of population decline in the other direction. So unless people in third world shitholes suddenly stop having kids, there are going to be lots of people to buoy the rental market and ensure a steady stream of serfs.

If you look at the tfr of places in South and Central America, you'll find that they actually are.

 

[Never Scored]

If you look at the tfr of places in South and Central America, you'll find that they actually are.

That's true, but there's still going to be more then enough people to prop up housing for the lifetime of anyone currently posting here.

 

[Ow The Edge]

That's true, but there's still going to be more then enough people to prop up housing for the lifetime of anyone currently posting here.

If the economy doesn't completely implode first, the Chavez-style socialists those people would elect will nationalize that property before you know it.

 

[Never Scored]

If the economy doesn't completely implode first, the Chavez-style socialists those people would elect will nationalize that property before you know it.

Blackrock owns the building you live in or communists do. Pick your poison.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

the old Robber Barons of the Gilded Era would be repulsed by the conduct of these dip shits, they were vicious pieces of shit but a large part of their wealth was just civic improvements in an effort to aggrandize their legacy

The difference between Gates, Blackrock, etc. is that the Robber Barons of old mostly just hired private goons like the Pinkertons or (especially in the West) criminal gangs to fuck over people they hated be it the plebs who worked for them or local ranchers or corporate rivals. They controlled governments and used corrupt cops too, but in many places there were always enough competing interests that local politicians and sheriffs weren't beholden to them. They also never really controlled the national government because again, too many competing interests. That's not really the case today where these groups operate more or less lockstep under the auspices of the WEF and other sorts of "best practices" and now control the same governments who should nominally be their enemy.

The Robber Barons also gave a lot back to society through their grants and donations and gave us some nice architecture and sponsored other art, while the corporate elite of today mostly use their money to destabilize countries and give us freaky postmodern architecture and shit like George Floyd murals or that giant idol of big-headed negro in NYC while advocating the demolition of actual artistic achievements.

 

[spastic_bag]

Oh goodie, so now the local coffee roastery lady has warned me that the price of coffee is about to go up again soon because of bad weather in Brazil affecting coffee production. I wonder if this is a white lie to cover for the ongoing bullshit or the actual truth.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Nah, its real. https://gro-intelligence.com/insights/brazil-s-next-coffee-crop-seen-sharply-lower-as-prices-soar

Trees got beat to shit or something like that, and unhealthy trees don't yield as much.

 

[the fall of man]

Nah, its real. https://gro-intelligence.com/insights/brazil-s-next-coffee-crop-seen-sharply-lower-as-prices-soar

Trees got beat to shit or something like that, and unhealthy trees don't yield as much.

The brazilian coffee stock went through a massive cold snap last year. I stocked up on everything I could; right now I'm stocking up on cooking oil, fertilizer, and gemstones, next to be affected by the supply chain

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

The sad part is mass immigration is going to stop any kind of population decline in the other direction. So unless people in third world shitholes suddenly stop having kids, there are going to be lots of people to buoy the rental market and ensure a steady stream of serfs.

If you look at the tfr of places in South and Central America, you'll find that they actually are.

Not just Latin America, but almost all of the world outside of Sub-Saharan Africa is reaching near or below replacement levels of fertility.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Not just Latin America, but almost all of the world outside of Sub-Saharan Africa is reaching near or below replacement levels of fertility.

Well maybe if uncouth male jerks weren't hogging up all the pretty girls.

 

[Stoneheart]

right now I'm stocking up on cooking oil, fertilizer, and gemstones

Why Gemstones?

 

[Hippopatumus]

Gemstones are a truly terrible investment.

Though if you wanted to stack gems, the best way to do it would be to stack large (> 5 carat) natural emeralds.

 

[Never Scored]

Not just Latin America, but almost all of the world outside of Sub-Saharan Africa is reaching near or below replacement levels of fertility.

Well guess what goy? It's time for a civil war and refugee crises in Sub-Saharan Africa.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Well guess what goy? It's time for a civil war and refugee crises in Sub-Saharan Africa.

There's already a coup epidemic, thanks to the overthrow of Qaddafi. It's very likely that the supply chain problem, particularly in food and fuel, further exacerbate the continent's problems.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

Oh goodie, so now the local coffee roastery lady has warned me that the price of coffee is about to go up again soon because of bad weather in Brazil affecting coffee production. I wonder if this is a white lie to cover for the ongoing bullshit or the actual truth.

> Listening to a literal roastie
ishygddt

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Gemstones are a truly terrible investment.

Though if you wanted to stack gems, the best way to do it would be to stack large (> 5 carat) natural emeralds.

You shouldn't just use it as an investment, use it as jewelry too. Chicks love it and it's nice bling.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

There's already a coup epidemic, thanks to the overthrow of Qaddafi. It's very likely that the supply chain problem, particularly in food and fuel, further exacerbate the continent's problems.

This is to be expected, the money is going to be drying up and these garbage tier Democracy will wither on the vine. This will likely be the third cycle of being built up and dissolution within a lifetime for Africa. First with the colonial powers which collapsed and became a grab bag of dictatorships with communist flavor to garner investment from the USSR and China. Once the USSR collapsed you suddenly saw an effervescence of Republics across the world as American and Western influence was unchallenged. Now that the West is in steep decay these Republics are going to die as the foreign investment dries up. Afghanistan is a perfect example, mass starvation and thick tension in the air as everyone waits for a warlord to arise to take out the last warlord group, these conditions are going to propagate across the globe surprisingly fast, each nation falling apart leading to further disasters in their local region

Disaster chains like this are extremely difficult to arrest, they don't respond to anything humans can muster. International "Police Forces" just put these conflicts on ice as the rebels and regime get forced into stalemate, rebels dominating the rural areas and the regime propped up by international forces residing in the major cities. The moment these "Police forces" give up and leave the conflict resolves itself. The collapse of these fragile economies leads to the raw resources pumped out into the global market rapidly diminishing and the failed states being host to armed groups that help destroy the stability of the region they're in. On the surface, this is what the "War on Terror" was designed to prevent, instead it hastened the destruction of many regimes and threw most of the Middle East and North Africa into civil war and national collapse.

It will be interesting to see how the end of this growth cycle manifests, during the end of the last cycle the US and NATO were in tip top shape and able to fill the gap as the USSR died. In the previous cycle you had the US and USSR able to capture the fragmenting Colonial Empires, going further back you hit the Revolutionary Wars/Napoleonic War period that saw the USA and the Americas breaking free of the colonial powers with disastrous results for some former colonial possessions. This time? Who is going to end up at the top of the heap? The West is dealing with extreme problems in demographics which leads to lack of national vision of itself and future; this on top of the heavy debt and inflation problems they're dealing with. China has the ramifications of the one child policy to deal with and their economy is heavily dependent upon exports to the declining western powers. Russia is having trouble muscling over regional foes, Brazil and India are wild card nations that may end up going somewhere but each has a vast host of issues that likely wont be resolved before this global collapse sets in.

A cursory glance at history shows that the middle half of this century is going to be very hectic and likely may be the first time the globe has seen population decline since the Black Death in the 1300s.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

This is to be expected, the money is going to be drying up and these garbage tier Democracy will wither on the vine. This will likely be the third cycle of being built up and dissolution within a lifetime for Africa. First with the colonial powers which collapsed and became a grab bag of dictatorships with communist flavor to garner investment from the USSR and China. Once the USSR collapsed you suddenly saw an effervescence of Republics across the world as American and Western influence was unchallenged. Now that the West is in steep decay these Republics are going to die as the foreign investment dries up. Afghanistan is a perfect example, mass starvation and thick tension in the air as everyone waits for a warlord to arise to take out the last warlord group, these conditions are going to propagate across the globe surprisingly fast, each nation falling apart leading to further disasters in their local region

Disaster chains like this are extremely difficult to arrest, they don't respond to anything humans can muster. International "Police Forces" just put these conflicts on ice as the rebels and regime get forced into stalemate, rebels dominating the rural areas and the regime propped up by international forces residing in the major cities. The moment these "Police forces" give up and leave the conflict resolves itself. The collapse of these fragile economies leads to the raw resources pumped out into the global market rapidly diminishing and the failed states being host to armed groups that help destroy the stability of the region they're in. On the surface, this is what the "War on Terror" was designed to prevent, instead it hastened the destruction of many regimes and threw most of the Middle East and North Africa into civil war and national collapse.

It will be interesting to see how the end of this growth cycle manifests, during the end of the last cycle the US and NATO were in tip top shape and able to fill the gap as the USSR died. In the previous cycle you had the US and USSR able to capture the fragmenting Colonial Empires, going further back you hit the Revolutionary Wars/Napoleonic War period that saw the USA and the Americas breaking free of the colonial powers with disastrous results for some former colonial possessions. This time? Who is going to end up at the top of the heap? The West is dealing with extreme problems in demographics which leads to lack of national vision of itself and future; this on top of the heavy debt and inflation problems they're dealing with. China has the ramifications of the one child policy to deal with and their economy is heavily dependent upon exports to the declining western powers. Russia is having trouble muscling over regional foes, Brazil and India are wild card nations that may end up going somewhere but each has a vast host of issues that likely wont be resolved before this global collapse sets in.

A cursory glance at history shows that the middle half of this century is going to be very hectic and likely may be the first time the globe has seen population decline since the Black Death in the 1300s.

I propose a new warlord and piracy period. I wouldn't be surprised if every other sociopathic millionaire and wannabe Alexander goes to some African failed state to carve out their own fiefdoms and blow shit up. After all, the developed world has too much surveillance and security to advance that way even if we hit a snag but it's entirely possible to run around wild as fuck in a Mad Max Wasteland like 21st century Africa is shaping up to be.