Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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A CIA operative posing as a tranny to destabilize governments. Shit sounds like a /pol/ meme made reality.
Or qanon shcizorant that happen to be a real thing.
Either way that's fucking surreal.

I highly doubt that the people of a country that imports 32517 tonnes of olive oil
THEN WHY THE FUCK IT'S SO EXPENSIVE IN HERE?! :twisted:
Btw this pic is Christ years old.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only Nutella.
I'm one of these people who dislike Nutella.

Lol, I remember my first days in conscription, we had a bunch of similar characters struggling with AK belts. Good times, good times...
5D chess. Dude doesn't want to be meat on the grinder and is trying to get a disability discharge.
#UkraineWinning
But seriously, it will not help the poor fucker, at all. And it would not be a justice to say only Ukraine have such idiots in army.
That's rather depressing

Wait is this a meme in Russia?
In some form, yes. Though it's a niche one and related to how expensive olive oil there is.
Seriously, you can purchase quite decent cognac and pay less than for this fucking oil, man.
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Fucking NPCs...

How hard is it to sling a rifle with a strap over your shoulder?
Yes.
What is actually going on with the UK and US wanting to escalate the war?
Haven't you learned the latest WEF announcements? I haven't too, yet I'm aware that somebody have a desperate urge to reduce human population to... a million? two? just so 99% of survivors would serve to 1% as obedient slaves.
Not that it doesn't happen right now... :(


The Azovs are about to get the moscow theater experience when the Russians capture the above ground in Azovstal.
Nord Ost? Pffft, no.
Never again. That's not a theater, silly.
They're here for Azog, I guess Slick Dick was right, you can't oy vey the Azog.
No, but you still can Hutzpah and Jewish Oven them. Oh, and GAS!

Buy the dip.
Say no more, I got ya homie

Ah let me explain, you see Russians are Orcs and they have this psychich energy, so as long as they think they have ammo their guns will continue to shoot, and as long as they think their planes can fly, their planes will fly
You want to tell me that we, Chaos, have Orks WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!s in our disposal. Bro quit smoking this Imperium synth-garettes. They are very unhealthy.
Smoke weed instead!

Fine, do you consider Mariupol and Kharkiv's extensive bombing campaign as "pulling punches"?
It's not pulling punches, it's pulling needles. Hurtful ones.
Also, we also consider you a traitor of Ukraine because Zelensky says so, lol. Cope.

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Okay it wasn't Zelensky but he implied that if any of you awol fuckers get back you'll be charged for treason (and probably killed without judgement, teeheehee)
Right, I forgot which thread I'm in. Do carry on.
ftfy.
Also that's quite pathetic, even for you, to just run from the answer and pretend the question does not exist.
Foolishness, Vince. Foolishness. (yours)

Just a matter of time before the same is seen in Moscow. Yo, Vlad. Do you want this in Moscow? Tver was close. Maybe St. Petersburg? Long past time to declare victory and go back to the pre-war lines. The Ukrainians seem to be able to carry out asymmetric warfare successfully.
Right, because it sure have stopped any Russian from fighting Napoleon when Moscow was set on fire.
Sssssssurrrrrrre.
... I'm actually curious, do any of you really think that if Putin's gone this shitshow will be over? Hoooo boy do I have some rad news for ya...
 
Just a matter of time before the same is seen in Moscow. Yo, Vlad. Do you want this in Moscow? Tver was close. Maybe St. Petersburg? Long past time to declare victory and go back to the pre-war lines. The Ukrainians seem to be able to carry out asymmetric warfare successfully.
When Stalin tells that Russians need to give up because of the losses
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For Ukraine, it can't escalate any further without nukes or direct NATO involvement. Ukraine views this war as falling into one of a couple scenarios that have changed with how the war has turned into a slug match instead of a quick, decisive, "Special Military Operation" like Russia envisioned at the start of this, either A. The usurpation of Ukraine's government, turning it into such a yes man it's basically just Russia like Belarus is. or B. Russia annexes so much of Ukraine through sham referendums that what remains of Ukraine is a true rump state instead of a very poor one due to having much of it's eastern regions and entire coastline stripped away from it.
I get that it is arguably existential for Ukraine but it's not my problem and I don't appreciate them trying to make it my problem. I'm not talking about escalation for Ukraine, I'm talking about escalation that affects everyone else. You know, the escalation the world cares about.
 
Some random observations: the Russians seem unwilling to set up in pitched defense of villages; they almost always follow this cycle of action

> Russia/separatists takes village after mass artillery bombardment
> Ukrainian counter attack on village
> Russian/separatist withdrawal, Ukrainian celebration and news spread on the internet
> Call in ridiculous amounts of artillery support
> Move back in eventually with little to no opposition

The only place I've actually seen them defend in earnest is Chornobaivka, which, according to the Ukrainians, they've attacked more than 13 times (of course, attacking 13 times and never getting any headway is a big fat ukrainian W in their eyes).

Adding to the recent artillery and SPG deliveries from the West this fact adds to the conclusion: artillery wins wars and the Russians currently have a very big advantage in that and will likely have it forever.

The strike at Bryansk is odd; it has very little tactical value (no one's getting supplied from there most likely, and it won't affect Russia's fuel deposits in terms of size for obvious reasons) and I have no idea what it was hit with. This time we saw and heard no helicopters, and we didn't see a Tochka in flight, nor did air defense attempt to intercept anything (though this doesn't mean anything to be fair). I await more details. In the last few minutes, 2 Ukrainian drones were shot down in Kursk which may be mildly connected. In any case, it's most likely another case of NATO/US intel working well.

But since this, much like the other oil depot strike, will have no effect on the RU army's fighting capabilities. I would indeed argue that these strikes are retarded, they give you no advantage, but give the vatniks something to point at and go "you need to get yourself to the army recruitment office and donate your paycheck to buy thermal sights and NVGs, the hohols are attacking us!" and increasing support for a war that's already widely supported in Russia. At this point I'm certain Russia could deploy an additional 200,000 men and the common civilian would be cheering them on. Surely, there's something better to waste a Tochka U on, unless they're completely convinced it would get shot down anywhere else (which seems to be a common occurrence to be fair, what was the last time one of them successfully hit a target within Ukraine?)

Edit: Much news is coming in of Russians hitting, tonight, not only a refinery and a power plant in Kremenchuk with 9(!) missiles but also 5 railway stations in Central and Western Ukraine. This is especially surprising since the Russians ran out of precision munitions in February 28th.

PS: A group of Ukrainians were caught attempting to perform recon duties in Kremmina.

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Something just popped into my head since seemingly the west is giving Ukraine a bunch of artillery. Since Azov is seemingly hiding out in a bunker under a steel mill what is stopping Ukraine from just shelling the place to shit? Their guys are in a bunker, and they can blame the Russians for not evacuating civilians. Russians can claim Ukraine bombed civilians on purpose to guard the ebil nawtzees. Both sides get their own fake reason to seethe and cope, a perfect encapsulation of Slavic "civilization".
 
I've seen a lot of shit takes too, doesn't mean anyone with two brain cells to rub together believes them. It is entirely within the realm of possibilities this war lasts months, years or it could end next week. Wars never go as planned.
Then why didn't you say that to the guy I was responding to. Seems like you are selective with your skepticism. I'm also surprised you even call this a war when there are literal laws against that in russia.

Are you saying the majority of the troops Russia committed to this war are dead, dying or otherwise non-deployed?
Saying they obviously did not have the manpower needed to take Kyiv, the main objective. As Ukraine does not exist in Putin's eyes and so then Kyiv belongs to Russia. But the manpower was not there and so Russia suffered greatly. You don't normally retreat when things are going well. Farmers stealing Russia tanks don't become a meme when things are going well. So either they undersized the forces needed to do the objective, or there is some hidden army in the wing that Russia is "holding back". The "holding back" theory is really dumb when considering that the defender has the advantage.

"Pentagon officials say a 10 percent casualty rate, including dead and wounded, for a single unit renders it unable to carry out combat-related tasks." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/russia-troop-deaths.html

Don't need 50% to cause an army to become unable to carry out missions, though I think Russia's casualty rate is a lot higher than 10%.
 
Something just popped into my head since seemingly the west is giving Ukraine a bunch of artillery. Since Azov is seemingly hiding out in a bunker under a steel mill what is stopping Ukraine from just shelling the place to shit? Their guys are in a bunker, and they can blame the Russians for not evacuating civilians. Russians can claim Ukraine bombed civilians on purpose to guard the ebil nawtzees. Both sides get their own fake reason to seethe and cope, a perfect encapsulation of Slavic "civilization".
You have to get the artillery there to begin with and then arty your own city that reportedly still has civilians in it.
This does sound like Ukrainian winning though. Zelensky would then say they need more artillery shells.
 
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You have to get the artillery there to begin with and then arty your own city that reportedly still has civilians in it.
This does sound like Ukrainian winning though. Zelensky would then say they need more artillery shells.
My geographical knowledge is pretty shite when it comes to the region but to my understanding Mariupol is near the coast and outside of a thin strip Russia doesn't really have control over the surrounding areas so I don't see why getting the artillery there would be a problem. Though in my opinion they would be better off moving all the shit near Odessa to defend that than trying to retake Mariupol.
 
Jews being sent off to die for....Europe? Something is very wrong with this picture. I can't quite put my finger on it but I think something is normally reversed.
Shows how deep the corruption must run if even israeli soldiers aren't off limits.

You know, we all hear false flag this and false flag that, but seeing civilians in the basements of Azovstal makes me believe this is the one.
I hope they fuck up and the false flag is caught on camera for all the normies to see

In the center of Bucha, a stork walks through the streets.

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So they can film a fucking stork in Bucha but it was impossible to film or take picture of at least one russian soldier or vehicle murdering people?
 
Shows how deep the corruption must run if even israeli soldiers aren't off limits.
I mean that doesn't mean anything really since Israeli agent noted philanthropist Jeffrey Epstein was killed found after suicide. These Israeli soldiers will probably embrace toxic masculinity then hang themselves after suckstarting a shotgun because they just couldn't woman up and see a therapist to talk about their feelings.
 
My geographical knowledge is pretty shite when it comes to the region but to my understanding Mariupol is near the coast and outside of a thin strip Russia doesn't really have control over the surrounding areas so I don't see why getting the artillery there would be a problem. Though in my opinion they would be better off moving all the shit near Odessa to defend that than trying to retake Mariupol.
They have to get the arty from where ever it entered the country all the way down south. I think most of it comes from the northwest, though I really have no idea, that's just where some big stuff came from awhile back.

Russia has satellites and would probably know about it being moved down there so would be able to ruin infrastructure to slow it down and maybe even provide an opportunity to destroy it. I think that's an issue with a lot of Ukrainian supplies, they have to get them somewhere useful. Man-portable stuff is easy but bigger stuff, not so much. Russia has shown they'll break that sort of stuff.

So they can film a fucking stork in Bucha but it was impossible to film or take picture of at least one russian soldier or vehicle murdering people?
Assuming Russia did go on a murder spree in Bucha, I can't reasonably expect people to whip out a phone to film soldiers murdering people right in front of them. That there seems to be no willingness to dig into it further is suspect enough for me to be doubtful but then revisiting clips and seeing white armbands on people is just weird. That said I can't blame any locals for not gathering evidence of it.
 
Then why didn't you say that to the guy I was responding to. Seems like you are selective with your skepticism. I'm also surprised you even call this a war when there are literal laws against that in russia.

Saying they obviously did not have the manpower needed to take Kyiv, the main objective. As Ukraine does not exist in Putin's eyes and so then Kyiv belongs to Russia. But the manpower was not there and so Russia suffered greatly. You don't normally retreat when things are going well. Farmers stealing Russia tanks don't become a meme when things are going well. So either they undersized the forces needed to do the objective, or there is some hidden army in the wing that Russia is "holding back". The "holding back" theory is really dumb when considering that the defender has the advantage.

"Pentagon officials say a 10 percent casualty rate, including dead and wounded, for a single unit renders it unable to carry out combat-related tasks." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/russia-troop-deaths.html

Don't need 50% to cause an army to become unable to carry out missions, though I think Russia's casualty rate is a lot higher than 10%.
I responded to you. This isn't a Twitter hugbox. And the Pentagon's credibility died when they said the fall of Kabul was not imminent and then that it would not end like the fall of Saigon. Which it did.
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Assuming Russia did go on a murder spree in Bucha, I can't reasonably expect people to whip out a phone to film soldiers murdering people right in front of them. That there seems to be no willingness to dig into it further is suspect enough for me to be doubtful but then revisiting clips and seeing white armbands on people is just weird. That said I can't blame any locals for not gathering evidence of it.
The fact that most victims had white arm bands and were laying next to unopened russian military rations is what made it suspect. Why would russians hand out military rations and then kill them. Its far more likely that the azovs went reichstag fire on them when they realized they collaborated and took aid from russians

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Oh and then theres the european hillary clinton cunt clone and her fake af reaction seeing the corpses


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Odessa

The townspeople spend the night in a bomb shelter.
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The house after the shelling, presumably in Kiev.



So they can film a fucking stork in Bucha but it was impossible to film or take picture of at least one russian soldier or vehicle murdering people?
We live in a clown world.
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Assuming Russia did go on a murder spree in Bucha, I can't reasonably expect people to whip out a phone to film soldiers murdering people right in front of them. That there seems to be no willingness to dig into it further is suspect enough for me to be doubtful but then revisiting clips and seeing white armbands on people is just weird. That said I can't blame any locals for not gathering evidence of it.
I mean, to be fair, if you were witnessing warcrimes would you whip out your camera? I know I wouldn't. Might as well yell out "Yeah I got your war crime on camera buddy! I'm gonna tell everybody!". Just ask them to put you in their Dagestan Massacre video sequel, it's much quicker.
 
Just a matter of time before the same is seen in Moscow. Yo, Vlad. Do you want this in Moscow? Tver was close. Maybe St. Petersburg? Long past time to declare victory and go back to the pre-war lines. The Ukrainians seem to be able to carry out asymmetric warfare successfully.
But it also gives Putin justification for grabbing more adjacent oblasts as a buffer
 
Then why didn't you say that to the guy I was responding to. Seems like you are selective with your skepticism. I'm also surprised you even call this a war when there are literal laws against that in russia.

Saying they obviously did not have the manpower needed to take Kyiv, the main objective. As Ukraine does not exist in Putin's eyes and so then Kyiv belongs to Russia. But the manpower was not there and so Russia suffered greatly. You don't normally retreat when things are going well. Farmers stealing Russia tanks don't become a meme when things are going well. So either they undersized the forces needed to do the objective, or there is some hidden army in the wing that Russia is "holding back". The "holding back" theory is really dumb when considering that the defender has the advantage.

"Pentagon officials say a 10 percent casualty rate, including dead and wounded, for a single unit renders it unable to carry out combat-related tasks." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/russia-troop-deaths.html

Don't need 50% to cause an army to become unable to carry out missions, though I think Russia's casualty rate is a lot higher than 10%.
Russia is winning in terms of they're gaining territory, but winning by slowly gaining ground and winning according to what you had planned are two very different things. Operation Barbarossa pushed the USSR hundreds and hundreds of miles into their own territory and got the Germans a stones throw away from Moscow. But it's considered a failure because not only did they not actually reach Moscow and take cities like Leningrad, but they never even came close to the A-A line which was their general objective.

Sadly, with everything happening in real time, we obviously don't get any real behind the scenes info that Russia and Ukraine don't want public. Ukraine could be shitting it's pants that there could be no way to stop the Donbass cauldron from happening and no way to retreat troops, or Russia could be shitting it's pants that it might have to mobilize to make any more significant advances because of mounting casualties, even most OSINT accounts are in on this to an extent, with them with either saying "Slavia Ukraini, UFA killed 9001 Russians on the Kherson front alone!" or "Russia Stronk! Russia will capture Odessa by June and have a 3:1 K/D ratio!"
 
Just a matter of time before the same is seen in Moscow. Yo, Vlad. Do you want this in Moscow? Tver was close. Maybe St. Petersburg? Long past time to declare victory and go back to the pre-war lines. The Ukrainians seem to be able to carry out asymmetric warfare successfully.
Right, because it sure have stopped any Russian from fighting Napoleon when Moscow was set on fire.
Sssssssurrrrrrre.
... I'm actually curious, do any of you really think that if Putin's gone this shitshow will be over? Hoooo boy do I have some rad news for ya...
Don't forget that it didn't stop the anti-Bolshevik coalition during the Revolution, even with the additional loss of St. Petersburg.
As for if it's over without Putin, I believe the Seven Samurai line fits best: "The hard times have only just begun". As many have graciously pointed out earlier in the thread, the '90's were terrible, to put it lightly. One would likely shudder imagining if it was potentially applied punitively, for lack of a better word, which I'm certain that there's scores of people who would wish to see just that.
 
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