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I woukd love nothing more than to see Karl in a genuine high-pressure shooting situation. A home invasion, combat, anything, just to see him absolutely fall to pieces and realise his time sucking off trannies and doing gay shit with kettlebells doesn't count for shit.
Karl would not even shoot in a home invasion scenario because shooting a negro would make him a chud.
 
And now for something completely different; let's compare/contrast this vintage USMC/Army training film, with something from Detroit's most skilled urban survivalist.


Maybe I'm just a regressive, but I'd rather learn those vintage moves for free.

And while I'm thinking about it, this is just a little hilarious.
 
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Holy shit. That's real? Context?
Red dots on shotguns are unnecessary and dumb. Bad guy enter home. Put bead on center mass. Pull trigger. Hire cleaners.
Oh?
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Talk about bad timing. If he had waited a month it would have been featured as a NYT best seller. Slav nazis are good nazis now.
I bet he's seething major league over this. He should've had that in this video:

Also, fuck Ian for the whole Heat vest debacle.
 
This is what I meant earlier. 4 posts dedicated bead sights. Who is this for? The 8 people who disagreed? InRange is the ultimate channel for arguing against strawmen.

I’m personally chuffed that a small disagreement with my stupid ass triggered SinistralRifleman off enough to create a YouTube montage of him waddling through a competition shoot with ghost ring sights.

Please continue to own me by making improvements to your physical health and not getting assmad over a literal nobody on Kiwi Farms next. That will definitely own me, you should do it.
 
I’m personally chuffed that a small disagreement with my stupid ass triggered SinistralRifleman off enough to create a YouTube montage of him waddling through a competition shoot with ghost ring sights.

Please continue to own me by making improvements to your physical health and not getting assmad over a literal nobody on Kiwi Farms next. That will definitely own me, you should do it.

Don’t feel that special. I already had the montage posted to Instagram last month and just added the soyjacks based on Facebook comments from trap and skeet shooters and slayers of water fowl.

My physical health is my lowest level of concern. I’m planning on dropping dead at my desk one day. If that happens next week or in decades it matters not.

Karl would not even shoot in a home invasion scenario because shooting a negro would make him a chud.

The most likely home defense scenario for Karl is some internet schizo poster believing God told him to stop the great Satan by driving out to Karl’s desert lair and trying to kill him. Their body would be half consumed by local wildlife by the time law enforcement got around to driving out there.
 
The most likely home defense scenario for Karl is some internet schizo poster believing God told him to stop the great Satan by driving out to Karl’s desert lair and trying to kill him.

Karl is smart enough not to anger the NRA ninjas. I've heard they are relentless.
 
The take on the use of reflector sights in combat aircraft is completely nonsensical. Those sights were not used the way one would use a shotgun. With a firearm you usually look at the target and bring out the weapon to the horizontal plane formed by your eyes, and it's like you're on a swivel as you can fire in any direction you can turn to. With an aircraft, you're inside a machine that can't turn on a dime and to aim the guns - you need to change the velocity vector. The kind of shooting one does with a bead on a shotgun isn't possible inside an aircraft. It's like the difference between skeet shooting off the back of a truck, or mounting the guns on the hood facing forward and having to steer the entire vehicle.
The use of "instinct" is complicated by the fact that you can be diving or climbing while you're shooting, which has an effect on whether gravity is subtracting or adding to the bullet velocity. The pilot deals with a relatively large volume in 3d space. There's a lot of factors playing tricks on "instinct" compared to shotgun shooting. Even then, use of tracers and explosive shells to "walk" a burst into the enemy was extremely common as it wasn't always possible to get the deflection right with the first rounds.
The funny thing is, before reflector sights became common aircraft did use bead sights (albeit with a ring rear right so it doesn't count).
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Either way, the main advantage of the reflector sights were the ease of compensating for deflection or distance by using the reticle and gyro system. By turning a dial the pilot could shrink or enlarge the reticle so that it could match a known aircraft's wingspan and this automatically gave the sight a lead computation. This makes reflector gunsights in WW2 clearly about increased accuracy and ease of use while chasing enemy fighters. Not faster snapshots.
TL;DR: Karl doesn't play flight sims and it shows. Also doesn't understand historical context.
 
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The take on the use of reflector sights in combat aircraft is completely nonsensical. Those sights were not used the way one would use a shotgun. With a firearm you usually look at the target and bring out the weapon to the horizontal plane formed by your eyes, and it's like you're on a swivel as you can fire in any direction you can turn to. With an aircraft, you're inside a machine that can't turn on a dime and to aim the guns - you need to change the velocity vector. The kind of shooting one does with a bead on a shotgun isn't possible inside an aircraft. It's like the difference between skeet shooting off the back of a truck, or mounting the guns on the hood facing forward and having to steer the entire vehicle.
The use of "instinct" is complicated by the fact that you can be diving or climbing while you're shooting, which has an effect on whether gravity is subtracting or adding to the bullet velocity. The pilot deals with a relatively large volume in 3d space. There's a lot of factors playing tricks on "instinct" compared to shotgun shooting. Even then, use of tracers and explosive shells to "walk" a burst into the enemy was extremely common as it wasn't always possible to get the deflection right with the first rounds.
The funny thing is, before reflector sights became common aircraft did use bead sights (albeit with a ring rear right so it doesn't count).
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Either way, the main advantage of the reflector sights were the ease of compensating for deflection or distance by using the reticle and gyro system. By turning a dial the pilot could shrink or enlarge the reticle so that it could match a known aircraft's wingspan and this automatically gave the sight a lead computation. This makes reflector gunsights in WW2 clearly about increased accuracy and ease of use while chasing enemy fighters. Not faster snapshots.
TL;DR: Karl doesn't play flight sims and it shows. Also doesn't understand historical context.
Completely agree with you.

Karl hates anyone that disagrees with him. In the past two years it has gotten worse. To disagree with him is to insult him. To insult him is to become his life long enemy. The following 43 second intheshitter video demonstrates that.


Karl is running around in the background screaming and yelling about back up iron sites being old. You can hear him sperging out like he is three years old on how people need to modernize. How is that video evidence of my claim that he takes disagreement as an insult? Because Karl has decreed that iron sites are old fashioned and unnecessary on his ultra-super-tech WWSD rifle. If you think otherwise Karl hates you and spergs.

Russell has been selling polymer AR lowers for 21 years. At least according to the lawsuit that he is defending himself against. Cav Arms started selling a polymer lower in December 2000 and Russell joined Cav Arms in 2001. That is before GWOT. That in fact is before the M4 carbine was the standard rifle of the US military. The red dot optic is becoming cheap and old fashioned and is GWOT old. The new shiny object that the cool kids want is the LPVO. Basically everything that is the WWSD rifle is established old products assembled into a e-celebrity endorsed product. The biggest claim is that it is one of the lightest AR's on the market, which it is.

Karl does the spergout on everything. He does it on optics, guns, shooting, politics, religion. You name it and you can find a Karl spergout online about it. Personally I don't find tantrums all that big a deal until that is all you do.

I wonder what would happen to Karl's mind if GWACS wins its lawsuit against KE Arms, Russell Phagan, Brownells, and Shawn Nealon. Just think if one possibility happens and the KP-15 is discontinued? Karl's ultra-modern super gun would then become a Forgotten Weapon. I am positive Ian would make a quick episode and drop it and continue on same as normal. Karl's reaction would be so much more enjoyable to watch.
 
Not a very new video, but it seems poignant with the recent and questionably sane announcement to adopt the 6.8mm Sig Spear

Can't say I agree with his idea of going for 6.8mm Spc, because that's a stupid cartridge, but he manages to (perhaps unwittingly) make the case that NATO should upgrade from the old M80 Ball load for 7.62mm NATO to something better that would, if not defeat Lv.4 plates at 600yds as fantasized of by NGSW proponents, would still perform better than before, and at much lower chamber pressures, all while remaining compatible with existing machine guns and rifles.

The recoil on these Sig carbines looks fucking comical.
 
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Not a very new video, but it seems poignant with the recent and questionably sane announcement to adopt the 6.8mm Sig Spear

Can't say I agree with his idea of going for 6.8mm Spc, because that's a stupid cartridge, but he manages to (perhaps unwittingly) make the case that NATO should upgrade from the old M80 Ball load for 7.62mm NATO to something better that would, if not defeat Lv.4 plates at 600yds as fantasized of by NGSW proponents, would still perform better than before, and at much lower chamber pressures, all while remaining compatible with existing machine guns and rifles.

The recoil on these Sig carbines looks fucking comical.
LOL. Take a look at the Sig Spear


I don't even know how to describe this thing. It is ummmm, different. Hey, it has offset backup iron sights. It is alloy not plastic. It has a folding 6 position collapsing buttstock. It does not look anything like what Stoner would do.

My bet is Karl is going to sperg about something gay.

This could be the next "Game Changer" or it could be the next XM25.
 
The following 43 second intheshitter video demonstrates that.


Karl is running around in the background screaming and yelling about back up iron sites being old. You can hear him sperging out like he is three years old on how people need to modernize.
I agree that Karl is like that irl, but in the video he seems to have boiled himself down to a caricature just for the bit. This video actually shows some self-awareness from his part.
Problem is that he returns to his annoying real self when he's back in front of his keyboard.
Can't say I agree with his idea of going for 6.8mm Spc, because that's a stupid cartridge, but he manages to (perhaps unwittingly) make the case that NATO should upgrade from the old M80 Ball load for 7.62mm NATO to something better that would, if not defeat Lv.4 plates at 600yds as fantasized of by NGSW proponents, would still perform better than before, and at much lower chamber pressures, all while remaining compatible with existing machine guns and rifles.

The recoil on these Sig carbines looks fucking comical.
Well, there's the M80A1 round, which is the Big Boy™ version of M855A1.
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I have a different take, though. We should increase chamber pressures if the Sig case design is that good. Do some fancy EDM shit on barrels and create relief cuts that don't disturb the rifling to get sharp pressure drop close to the uncorking of the bullet at the muzzle. Short cans at the end. Fuck it, we 5.56 Magnum now.
 
The xm25 I'd a retarded boondoggle that isn't going to amount to shit, Just like every other time we got big ideas to replace the AR. If big army wanted to do anything it seems like the obvious answers would be to try and find a better bolt head material so you can shoot 855A1 without being a constant mantiance nightmare.

Or make some kind of in-house 6.5 Grendel load with one of those fancy tungsten bullets. Thst works in a regular AR and uses a standard brass case thst isn't and obvious death trap.

80k psi in a two piece case is begging for problems. Best case sanario I bet you have case heads pulled off on extraction in hot guns. Hope there's a trapdoor for s broken case extractor somewhere on that thing.
 
The xm25 I'd a retarded boondoggle that isn't going to amount to shit, Just like every other time we got big ideas to replace the AR. If big army wanted to do anything it seems like the obvious answers would be to try and find a better bolt head material so you can shoot 855A1 without being a constant mantiance nightmare.

Or make some kind of in-house 6.5 Grendel load with one of those fancy tungsten bullets. Thst works in a regular AR and uses a standard brass case thst isn't and obvious death trap.

80k psi in a two piece case is begging for problems. Best case sanario I bet you have case heads pulled off on extraction in hot guns. Hope there's a trapdoor for s broken case extractor somewhere on that thing.
Carpenter 158 was good enough for TWO IRAQ WARS!
Honestly, you don't even need a better material. Rounded bolt lugs would do the trick. The deal with bolt breakages isn't the linear bolt thrust, it's the overpressure causing early unlocking and creating a torsional load. The relatively sharp radius at the root of the lugs acts as a stress riser and bolt life is reduced. I heard the M855A1 pressure issues were fixed, which lead me to an arfcom thread where Buffman said what I already knew but wasn't sure: velocities on M855A1 seem to have been dialed back. But interestingly, someone mentioned that the Small Arms Solutions/Black Hills testing of M855A1 had it conditioned at 125ºF. They did environmental testing on M855A1 by heating it up, and it's within spec. That's weird.
They don't want to use tungsten. Making billions of standard issue bullets with tungsten cores would take it away from where it's needed. That's why the 6.8 was designed around a steel core and it's blasting off at full rifle power. They need that performance to lob an ash tray of a steel core that makes up for the fact that it's not tungsten.
I really don't think the two piece cartridge (or three piece in this case) is that much of an issue. Most solid materials have a Poisson ratio of 0.2-0.3 which means that axial strain results in transverse strain, equivalent to 20-30% of said axial strain. In plain English, if you compress a material like aluminum or steel to the point of deformation, it actually bulges sideways. With the high pressures, it's possible that the washer in the case head further locks the case wall.
 
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