I’ve been reading this thread from the start and have tried to find the specific post via search to no avail.
There’s a screenshot of a twitter user saying “LIE TO GET HORMONES” “LIE TO GET THAT YOU WANT, TELL THEM YOUVE YOUVE ALWAYS FELT THIS WAY SINCE CHILDHOOD.’
related— https://archive.ph/8QZtp (original)
Yeah, you totally “know” your body better than whatever transphobic lab results or general findings a qualified doctor would make
They think it's sexy. They've seen similar things in their porn and hentai and decided that they can do it too.
Because when you're a faceblind pornsick autist, a porn actress opening her mouth to let a guy finish on her face looks exactly the same as this: View attachment 3214115
These people say that "science.tm" is on their side but have to lie through their teeth to get "life saving" hormones. Makes you think that if they really were trans and weren't groomed by a creepy network of weirdo's they wouldn't have to lie through their teeths to get hormones
My personal pet peeves with these 'trans headcanon' and fanart is that it would never really hold up in 'realistic' anatomy. You may put mastectomy on a figure with male skeletal proportion and say that this is ftm, and you may just put a penis on a perfectly female figure in art, but it isn't how it works in reality at all - Most people I know who do visual art and says that tranny can perfectly pass seem to be pretty horrible at realistic anatomy.
But it is not always... ..or not, or there's a catch? Here's some tranny who is into more 'realistic art'... this person which is actually an instructor for Zbrush, Madeleine Scott-Spencer (formerly Scott Spencer) - he was educated in classical figure sculpting, working in movie fx industry, and performed cadaver lab studies in support of multiple artists anatomy projects. - What I laso noticed that troons either gravitate to cutesy you're seeing often, or they go full Slaanesh and love the visceral horror of flesh, blood and... bondage gear. this one is the latter
He isn't a cow and tried his best to pass, never chimp outs anywhere, and never mention anything trans-related on his twitter... but I put him up for a discussion about trans art, their psyche, and how they do it.
It is common when male artists became so obsessed with female form that they want to become one. (although he mostly sculpt monsters now) Lili Elbe of the 'Danish Girl' was one, and I know a few artists (including a close friend) who trooned out to chase out their narcissus-pygmalion coomer dream. - but it would require a great cognitive dissonance... isn't it? because being good at (classical style) art mean you'll recognise that passing is bullshit.
And also what is it with troons and trying to LARP as goth chicks?
The curious thing to me is that yes, he teaches sculpting, he teaches artistic anatomy, this is a guy who has spent a length of time in real deal art school and dissecting corpse. He also does write about teaching anatomy in his blog, talking about all these things you'd expect from a figure sculptor.
And yet with all of his education and career... why the fuck his sculpting and art just feels so generic and boring? I would have expected much more from Gnomon Prestige. You can find thousands of more talented sculptor in Artstation, and many more who can design even more interesting monsters than him and knows the better way to play around with anatomy other than making these elongated gender-vague demons. Maybe it is true after all with 'troons can't do anatomy' even if they try
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My personal pet peeves with these 'trans headcanon' and fanart is that it would never really hold up in 'realistic' anatomy. You may put mastectomy on a figure with male skeletal proportion and say that this is ftm, and you may just put a penis on a perfectly female figure in art, but it isn't how it works in reality at all - Most people I know who do visual art and says that tranny can perfectly pass seem to be pretty horrible at realistic anatomy.
You're right, I (unfortunately) ran into a few "male character reimagined as trans" art pieces back in the day and they were always dudes built like The Rock except with added mastectomy scars. It's probably part delusion, part artists knowing that if they make the character look too "feminine" they will be accused of transphobia and triggering people's dysphoria.
The curious thing to me is that yes, he teaches sculpting, he teaches artistic anatomy, this is a guy who has spent a length of time in real deal art school and dissecting corpse. He also does write about teaching anatomy in his blog, talking about all these things you'd expect from a figure sculptor.
And yet with all of his education and career... why the fuck his sculpting and art just feels so generic and boring? I would have expected much more from Gnomon Prestige. You can fund thousands of much more talented sculptor and Artstation, and many more who designed more interesting monsters than him and knows how to play around with anatomy other than making these elongated gender-vague demons. Maybe it is true after all with 'troons can't do anatomy' even if they try
Trooning out will make everyone who knows you afraid to criticize you in any way (even in helpful ways) because they have been told that you are on a hair-trigger for suicidality. It also discourages you from any honest self-introspection or self-knowledge. I imagine that both of those things are absolute poison for creativity and good art.
I mentioned this in the Philosophy Tube thread the other day, but it's amazing that if you go back around 5 years or so, female-heavy SJW places like Tumblr were extremely pro-transwoman, in the cringey way that a lot of libfems are today. These spaces are still pro-trans (because they're full of Aidens), but in practice most of them can't seem to stand transwomen (almost certainly due to having interacted with transwomen). Given that Tumblr is usually 5-10 years ahead of the general population when it comes to SJW stuff, it will be interesting to see how the pattern plays out with the libfems.
I saw this absolutely retarded questionable tweet from a "doctor" who specialises in transgender health.
Won't these kids end up with lots of health issues? How many boys that were put on puberty blockers are going to be competitive "female" athletes?
Absolutely focusing on the wrong issue here, fair would be giving them their own circus to play around in sporting league that no one can watch.
There's more tweets from her such as claiming dainty little girl Lia Thomas had no real advantage over the other women and more nonsense.
Bet she's making good money though. Good for her I guess, gotta ride that money train.
I kinda feel for the TiFs, they weren't accepted as girls and they made some pretty big sacrifices to still be seen as lesser than. When will they learn that this is just rampant misogyny disguised as inclusivity? These coombrained AGPs don't give two shits about you. They are better "girls" than you ever were and were better men than you'll ever be.
I saw this absolutely retarded questionable tweet from a "doctor" who specialises in transgender health. View attachment 3214272
Won't these kids end up with lots of health issues? How many boys that were put on puberty blockers are going to be competitive "female" athletes?
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Absolutely focusing on the wrong issue here, fair would be giving them their own circus to play around in sporting league that no one can watch.
There's more tweets from her such as claiming dainty little girl Lia Thomas had no real advantage over the other women and more nonsense.
Bet she's making good money though. Good for her I guess, gotta ride that money train.
I kinda feel for the TiFs, they weren't accepted as girls and they made some pretty big sacrifices to still be seen as lesser than. When will they learn that this is just rampant misogyny disguised as inclusivity? These coombrained AGPs don't give two shits about you. They are better "girls" than you ever were and were better men than you'll ever be.
Ah yes, exactly how you do science: get a bunch of funding to perform "research" which will "prove" a fact that you have already staked your professional reputation on! I am sure it will be very impartial and will contain absolutely no manipulated data. And what's with all the emojis and reaction gifs? It's so fucking patronizing.
This whole sector of gender "research" now consists of pumping out terrible "studies" that a first-year research student would get in trouble for taking seriously, but which no one in the industry is allowed to criticize because they'd be cancelled. No knowledge is actually being advanced, and trans people aren't even being helped in any way, but the researchers are producing papers that are fancy-looking enough to fool bureaucratic midwits and "I fucking love science" types on Twitter, and that's what they're getting paid for.
(If you think I'm exaggerating go look at some of the "gender brain science" studies, they're a fucking joke)
Edit: you can already see some examples of the shitty, dishonest "science" being exposed in the comments, about her claim that TW lose 7 kg of muscle mass due to HRT. The doctor (?) was actually (ineptly) comparing a control group of cis men to a group of transwomen, and presenting it as a measurement of transwomen losing muscle mass over time:
But no one will pay attention to that, that's just tRaNSpHoBEs QueSTiOnINg PeEr ReVIeWed ScIEncE.
This shit is so fucking depressing. And then they wonder why people don't trust vaccines anymore.
Ah yes, exactly how you do science: get a bunch of funding to perform "research" which will "prove" a fact that you have already staked your professional reputation on! I am sure it will be very impartial and will contain absolutely no manipulated data. And what's with all the emojis and reaction gifs? It's so fucking patronizing.
This whole sector of gender "research" now consists of pumping out terrible "studies" that a first-year research student would get in trouble for taking seriously, but which no one in the industry is allowed to criticize because they'd be cancelled. No knowledge is actually being advanced, and trans people aren't even being helped in any way, but the researchers are producing papers that are enough to fool bureaucratic midwits and "I fucking love science" types on Twitter, and that's what they're getting paid for.
(If you think I'm exaggerating go look at some of the "gender brain science" studies, they're a fucking joke)