Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[NotAPony]

@BoxerShorts47 why do people call you a pedophile? And follow up, why do you argue with people who say you're a pedophile? Doesn't that imply you are one?

 

[Stardust]

Have you considered actually putting your time to use? Getting a graduate degree instead of jerking off to incel rhetoric on the internet? Conservative universities exist, you know. Being a 30+ year old unemployed tradposting doomer is unproductive and would be frowned upon in the trad society you advocate for.

To be fair, Boxy has a degree in business. Now, how that degree aids in the quest for child brides, only his autistic logic can explain. Either way,, he discredits Western education, meaning, in his Boxtopia, that degree becomes null and void. Basically, he wasted time and money on something he'd negate in his Boxtopia.

Retarded incarnate.

 

[Pissmaster]

I've done real work with my hands and I learned a quite a bit from that experience. Fun tidbit, my blue collar boss (technically landlord), said I didn't belong doing blue collar work so now I'm here doing political research, which is white collar work, and I'm satisfied with the development of my rhetoric and understanding of the issues over the last few years.

I think you should stick to blue collar work. This thread has been going for almost two years. You've spent a chunk of your life arguing here, learning nothing new, changing nothing about your rhetoric, and haven't managed to even remotely swing a single person to your side. You've also severely damaged future employment prospects by accidentally doxxing yourself in this very thread, putting a face and name to your beliefs, and didn't even back down after that.

 

[draggs]

I've done real work with my hands and I learned a quite a bit from that experience. Fun tidbit, my blue collar boss (technically landlord), said I didn't belong doing blue collar work so now I'm here doing political research, which is white collar work, and I'm satisfied with the development of my rhetoric and understanding of the issues over the last few years.

Your mom's landlord is not your landlord you NEET nigger

 

[Stardust]

I think you should stick to blue collar work.

Like the Slav he is, Boxy should accept being the slave to us Ubermensch. Picking cotton, cutting tobacco, and being our pinata to beat for every holiday celebration. He'd be beaten black-and-blue collar!

 

[World's Smallest Violin]

Like the Slav he is, Boxy should accept being the slave to us Ubermensch. Picking cotton, cutting tobacco, and being our pinata to beat for every holiday celebration. He'd be beaten black-and-blue collar!

I wouldn't trust that silverback to shine my shoes.

 

[Stardust]

I wouldn't trust that silverback to shine my shoes.

Boxy is nothing like a silverback. His step daddy, Tyrone, however...

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

@BoxerShorts47 why do people call you a pedophile? And follow up, why do you argue with people who say you're a pedophile? Doesn't that imply you are one?

If you're actually asking this question seriously.

Boxy here, at his most "positive", wants to destroy age of consent laws as we know them to get over "jailbreak" issues where 15 year olds who look like they're 18-19 aren't viable options for the dating pool by anyone who's above the age of 17 (in America anyway). This is believed to be a huge factor for why society and relationships are collapsing in current year.

The basic logic more or less boils down to the following points:

Women are fully grown during some sort of stage in puberty, which Boxy claims is somewhere around age 14-16 depending on the girl in question. I vaguely recall even 12-13 being potentially on the table, but that's supposedly more rare.

This was done before AoC laws existed, where a legal marriage age could be around what Boxy wants or even younger, therefore it was a good idea because relationships were on an up swing, so we should bring that back. AoC was also created by feminists and is therefore automatically bad.

This forces women to grow up and mentally mature faster, because they more or less get to make serious decisions (like who to marry) at an earlier age. Boxy believes people are far far too coddled and need to play trial by fire faster to truly become adults. So yes man and women children exist because AoC doesn't let them have sex sooner.

Women are more fertile in these ages then in say their 30s, and Boxy believes AoC is at least part of the reason relationships are in decline and fewer families are being made, and women are in their prime child birth ages during a good portion of AoC years or it delays woman getting into serious relationships with men during these years (aka getting married and having kids at young 20s instead of 30s).

Power dynamics are generally speaking bullshit, because women get to choose their mates, so the whole angle that a 14 year old girl will be abused by an older man is highly unlikely because women by default get to choose their mate.

Women have casual sex at these ages anyway, so who cares if they have it with someone who's say 6 years older then them? At least then they might get into a relationship instead of just fucking chad for fun. Also any occurrence of say a 30 year old dating a 14 year old will be extremely rare supposedly, what will actually supposedly happen is say a 15 year old and a 21 year old will get together, get married a year or two later, and then the woman will birth children before she's 18 and has more time in her prime. Even if it did happen, who cares? She's a woman because she went through puberty at 15 now.

I think I touched on pretty much everything, or at least most the parts that matter.

 

[Stardust]

I think I touched on pretty much everything, or at least most the parts that matter.

You're forgetting the part where feminists and liberals, not only invented "age of consent", they also created that filthy Latin language. If we just remove Latin from everything, everyone will be euphoric about fucking kids.

Yes, newcomers, Boxy thinks ancient Latin was a creation made by female Democrats way, WAY back. Yes, he is THAT retarded.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

You're forgetting the part where feminists and liberals, not only invented "age of consent", they also created that filthy Latin language. If we just remove Latin from everything, everyone will be euphoric about fucking kids.

Yes, newcomers, Boxy thinks ancient Latin was a creation made by female Democrats way, WAY back. Yes, he is THAT retarded.

I think I did touch on how feminists invented AoC, but holy fucking shit I legit forgot the language sperging during the early days of this thread. It was something to do with English being created in such a way to hate white men, and protect blacks by constantly changing definitions or some fucking shit like that.

I think I received brain damage from all of those arguments coming back into my mind, thank you for reminding me. I'm going to go clean my brain out with bleach.

 

[Astro Loafo]

If you're actually asking this question seriously.

Boxy here, at his most "positive", wants to destroy age of consent laws as we know them to get over "jailbreak" issues where 15 year olds who look like they're 18-19 aren't viable options for the dating pool by anyone who's above the age of 17 (in America anyway). This is believed to be a huge factor for why society and relationships are collapsing in current year.

The basic logic more or less boils down to the following points:

Women are fully grown during some sort of stage in puberty, which Boxy claims is somewhere around age 14-16 depending on the girl in question. I vaguely recall even 12-13 being potentially on the table, but that's supposedly more rare.

This was done before AoC laws existed, where a legal marriage age could be around what Boxy wants or even younger, therefore it was a good idea because relationships were on an up swing, so we should bring that back. AoC was also created by feminists and is therefore automatically bad.

This forces women to grow up and mentally mature faster, because they more or less get to make serious decisions (like who to marry) at an earlier age. Boxy believes people are far far too coddled and need to play trial by fire faster to truly become adults. So yes man and women children exist because AoC doesn't let them have sex sooner.

Women are more fertile in these ages then in say their 30s, and Boxy believes AoC is at least part of the reason relationships are in decline and fewer families are being made, and women are in their prime child birth ages during a good portion of AoC years or it delays woman getting into serious relationships with men during these years (aka getting married and having kids at young 20s instead of 30s).

Power dynamics are generally speaking bullshit, because women get to choose their mates, so the whole angle that a 14 year old girl will be abused by an older man is highly unlikely because women by default get to choose their mate.

Women have casual sex at these ages anyway, so who cares if they have it with someone who's say 6 years older then them? At least then they might get into a relationship instead of just fucking chad for fun. Also any occurrence of say a 30 year old dating a 14 year old will be extremely rare supposedly, what will actually supposedly happen is say a 15 year old and a 21 year old will get together, get married a year or two later, and then the woman will birth children before she's 18 and has more time in her prime. Even if it did happen, who cares? She's a woman because she went through puberty at 15 now.

I think I touched on pretty much everything, or at least most the parts that matter.

I've always felt like it would be a better option to have children at a younger age than past mid 20s. Since 18-24 are your stronger years. You can take the abuse of raising a child and work/school alot more well in this time frame. After that you'll just be tired as fk in your 30s trying to keep up with your kids.


Like I'm not saying lower age of consent. But if a 16 yr old gets with a 17 yr old and have kids. It would be vastly easier. And by the time you do get a stable job, the kids would be old enough to take care of themselves.


But the clear flaw is that young people don't want to let go of that high school mentality far into their 30s. So honestly, this society is fked regardless.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

They usually say that when you suck at your blue collar job lol. Whatever though, I'm not gonna press that fact.

Have you considered actually putting your time to use? Getting a graduate degree instead of jerking off to incel rhetoric on the internet? Conservative universities exist, you know. Being a 30+ year old unemployed tradposting doomer is unproductive and would be frowned upon in the trad society you advocate for.

I'm also curious about your physical fitness. Do you go to the gym? Do you train cardio? There's a pretty funny trend of tradposters being either overweight or underweight lazy incels, so it would be nice if you could provide proof that you don't fall into that category. If you do, you're a hypocrite and need to get your shit together before you spout reactionary takes on the internet.

Find me a PhD program that accepts White Nationalists.

I do calf raises on the leg press machine.

Boxy here, at his most "positive", wants to destroy age of consent laws as we know them to get over "jailbreak" issues where 15 year olds who look like they're 18-19 aren't viable options for the dating pool by anyone who's above the age of 17 (in America anyway). This is believed to be a huge factor for why society and relationships are collapsing in current year.

The basic logic more or less boils down to the following points:

Women are fully grown during some sort of stage in puberty, which Boxy claims is somewhere around age 14-16 depending on the girl in question. I vaguely recall even 12-13 being potentially on the table, but that's supposedly more rare.

This was done before AoC laws existed, where a legal marriage age could be around what Boxy wants or even younger, therefore it was a good idea because relationships were on an up swing, so we should bring that back. AoC was also created by feminists and is therefore automatically bad.

This forces women to grow up and mentally mature faster, because they more or less get to make serious decisions (like who to marry) at an earlier age. Boxy believes people are far far too coddled and need to play trial by fire faster to truly become adults. So yes man and women children exist because AoC doesn't let them have sex sooner.

Women are more fertile in these ages then in say their 30s, and Boxy believes AoC is at least part of the reason relationships are in decline and fewer families are being made, and women are in their prime child birth ages during a good portion of AoC years or it delays woman getting into serious relationships with men during these years (aka getting married and having kids at young 20s instead of 30s).

Power dynamics are generally speaking bullshit, because women get to choose their mates, so the whole angle that a 14 year old girl will be abused by an older man is highly unlikely because women by default get to choose their mate.

Women have casual sex at these ages anyway, so who cares if they have it with someone who's say 6 years older then them? At least then they might get into a relationship instead of just fucking chad for fun. Also any occurrence of say a 30 year old dating a 14 year old will be extremely rare supposedly, what will actually supposedly happen is say a 15 year old and a 21 year old will get together, get married a year or two later, and then the woman will birth children before she's 18 and has more time in her prime. Even if it did happen, who cares? She's a woman because she went through puberty at 15 now.

I think I touched on pretty much everything, or at least most the parts that matter.

Good Job. You're officially redpilled.

You can take the abuse of raising a child and work/school alot more well in this time frame.

You're still feminized. The trad mentality is having kids and raising kids IS the biological job of women. The feminist mentality is motherhood is prison and women must be liberated so they should get an education and enter the workforce to support themselves. These are 2 completely different worldviews. Trying to juggle both doesn't work well and we've seen that collapse over the last 3 generations. You have to pick 1 vision and accept the consequences and obviously the trad society is hell for women who don't want to get married and don't want to raise kids but it's happiness for those who do and it's sustainable long-term.

But the clear flaw is that young people don't want to let go of that high school mentality far into their 30s. So honestly, this society is fked regardless.

There are other reforms that must take place. I argue that education is the primary reason people suffer from teenagerism / teenager syndrome. I think we must abolish complimentary education and change universities from 4 year to 3 year degrees are the very minimum. If you look at the data, the word teenager didn't exist before the 1940s and that's 1 generation after complimentary education laws were enacted in the 1920; coincidence? I don't think so.

Destiny is starting to admit these problems but I don't expect him to promote solutions because they'd be anti-feminist.
https://youtu.be/hjdFCl_ok3s?t=10200

 

[Stardust]

For aome reason the Quote option isn't working, so I had to manually copy and paste Boxy's third response:

You're still feminized. The trad mentality is having kids and raising kids IS the biological job of women. The feminist mentality is motherhood is prison and women must be liberated so they should get an education and enter the workforce to support themselves. These are 2 completely different worldviews. Trying to juggle both doesn't work well and we've seen that collapse over the last 3 generations. You have to pick 1 vision and accept the consequences and obviously the trad society is hell for women who don't want to get married and don't want to raise kids but it's happiness for those who do and it's sustainable long-term.

Boxy lives with his mom who had kids AND still works to support him. This is interesting for two reasons...

One, Boxy is a hypocrite about believing women ONLY being mothers and NOT employed. His mother supports him, while he refuses to work, despite saying REAL men should.

Two, Boxy's own mother proves his beliefs are wrong by simply living as she does. If Boxy says his mom is a degenerate and wrong, then he is as well, for being raised by a non-trad woman, and thus is too impure and too tainted to project or lead. How sad, getting politically cucked by your mom.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Not even the website itself wants me to quote your post, likely for good reason, but @BoxerShorts47 please take your jewish nonce pill away from me. The only pills you need to take are buckshot. I was mocking your shit while still answering the question you retard, I know English is only your 5th most known language after Ape, Gypsy, Nigger, and Jew but please learn to read the white man's language before responding to the white man. The clue was when I said "positive", because simply calling you a pedo doesn't answer the question for people who haven't been reading your shit for this entire thread.

For aome reason the Quote option isn't working, so I had to manually copy and paste Boxy's third response:

Even the non-sentient website Kiwi Farms knows Boxy is a retarded pedo ape and wants no one to quote his ape speak.

 

[Stardust]

@BoxerShorts47 please take your jewish nonce pill away from me. The only pills you need to take are buckshot.

Taking pills isn't a common thing for the Box family, as Momma Box should have taken a pill the morning after.

 

[Scipio Americanus]

Find me a PhD program that accepts White Nationalists.
@BoxerShorts47, have you considered being less of a white nationalist in public? Where your name can be traced back to your activities? You claim to have a +2stdev IQ, but you've failed to do what most people on this forum have done... And most people who use KF are retards.

If it's too late, you could always change your name and not do retard shit on the internet. It's not like most graduate programs run an FBI-tier background check.

 

[Stardust]

Find me a PhD program that accepts White Nationalists.
@BoxerShorts47, have you considered being less of a white nationalist in public? Where your name can be traced back to your activities? You claim to have a +2stdev IQ, but you've failed to do what most people on this forum have done... And most people who use KF are retards.

If it's too late, you could always change your name and not do retard shit on the internet. It's not like most graduate programs run an FBI-tier background check.

@Just A Butt has asked for a single video, but Boxy has not provided. There is no way Boxy will do anything that requires effort. He is a lazy and cowardly midwit. If his mom can't do it for him, it will not be done.

#MomNationalist

 

[Retink]

You claim to have a +2stdev IQ, but you've failed to do what most people on this forum have done...

Wait, is BoxerShorts Owen Benjamin?

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

@Just A Butt has asked for a single video, but Boxy has not provided. There is no way Boxy will do anything that requires effort. He is a lazy and cowardly midwit. If his mom can't do it for him, it will not be done.

#MomNationalist

Boxy needs at least 10,000 subscribers before he makes any videos. Or some shit like that, I forget the exact excuse but it had something to do with needing groupies/disciples/followers/orbiters to protect him from SJWs, Da Jewz, Niggers, and whatever other shit Boxy is too scared of to make shit on bitchute or whatever on.

 

[KittyGremlin]

@BoxerShorts47 Don't listen to the haters, make a video. Let the world know of your superior intellect and perspective. And I'm not talking about a pussy ass 4 minute response, make like an hour long manifesto detailing your perfect world and how it should be achieved. Oh, and don't forget face cam it makes you look credible.