Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[draggs]

If they draft me after already giving 8 years to the uniform I will definitely be doing some Minecraft shit

In the old days they would have made you very very sorry then you'd go do what they told you anyway after but these days who knows you could probably get away with it especially if you cried to the press

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

That has to be the biggest load of horseshit I've seen this week, and there's been a ton of horseshit. It's a lethal weapon but it's not a silent weapon as anyone who has ever taken a course in using a tomahawk can tell you. It's a defensive weapon, not an offensive one. It's not the go to weapon in overcoming your opponent.

You mean its not a magical Britbong Removal Weapon that Mel Gibson showed it would be?

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

Not that it helps anything, but here are my guestimations for losses based on the fighting and casualties reported by the Armed forces of Russia on their side.

I remember some time in mid March Russia reported 498 dead soldiers, I assume not including Separatist losses which given their relatively small proportion of the invasion force but lower quality equipment, lets add another 150-200 or so as a reasonable guess.

I have no access to any special info, none of this is real and just speculation on my part, losses for either side could be much higher or much lower, but I tried to be fair enough in my guessing and not exaggerate in any way that feels like Keev Dependent or Vatnik Today.

Now the Ukrainians are not reporting their losses at all really, at least not in any realistic way so i assume they are higher than the Russians, especially given the huge firepower advantages the Russians have.

Losses for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation by my estimate are anywhere between 1,2000 and 4,000 killed, 8,000-10,000 wounded, missing and with POW"s somewhere in the hundreds.

DPR/LPR losses likely at about 1,000-1,500 killed and 4,000 wounded, because though they are a much smaller part of the Russian force they seem to take an active role in the fighting and their equipment is generally poorer then Russian regulars, with some being as well equipped as regular Russian Army with Ratnik Armor and AK-74M's but most being on the level of 1970's Soviet Soldiers in terms of gear with plenty of AK-74's, SSH-68 Sfera helmets and AKM pattern rifles, with even some rear line milita brandishing WW2 era firearms.

Ukrainian losses (INCLUDING Foreign forces) could be the range of 8,000-10,000 killed (possibly much higher but I'm trying not to Putler shill too hard and I'm lowballing it intentionally) 16,000 wounded or missing, with POW's likely being much higher then Russia at about 4,000-6,000 (again, including any person fighting under the Ukrainian banner so foreign fighters as well). Judging from what my good Belarus friend on the ground in the Russian Army has said, it is likely that several thousand Ukrainian soldiers have defected to the Russian side, let's say between 3,000 and 4,000.

Let me know if you guys think this sounds reasonable or realistic or not.

 

[kuuu]

If you don't do this

you get this

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Lovely.

No eyebleach tho. Blame sanctions.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

You mean its not a magical Britbong Removal Weapon that Mel Gibson showed it would be?

I haven't seen anyone claiming Russians are using musketoons and blunderbusses-yet. Nostalgia for the French and Indian Wars must be low.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

I haven't seen anyone claiming Russians are using musketoons and blunderbusses-yet. Nostalgia for the French and Indian Wars must be low.

Don't worry, someone will use one in combat this war. It won't be officially issued or anything, but in damn near every war a few mad lads pop up using old weapons for shits and giggles. Iran's operations against isis featured a nice battleaxe wielding maniac, and in WW2 the British had Mad Jack Churchill, who was a big fan of bringing a claymore and longbow along to battle. He actually got confirmed kills with the longbow no less. Somewhere over there, a half crazy Russian or Ukie has tears of joy at the thought of doing something similar.

 

[The Ugly One]

Lovely.
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No eyebleach tho. Blame sanctions.

Finally, something with real mass appeal to pull Netflix out of its downward slide!

 

[UVB-76]

can you really be sure that current American government would not build literal nuclear silos in Ukraine, however stupid that may be? They sure would have the ability to do so. Does not seem like they are a smart bunch.

There would be no point. So far, pursuing a first strike policy would end in a significant number of retaliatory warheads making it through. Current missile defenses are simply not reliable enough, and they cost too much for every interceptor launched.
It would be preferable to just continue the investment in directed energy weapons and have a truly reliable missile defense system.

Short range missiles are probably the most dangerous in terms of preventive first strike. And from Ukraine they would be able to hit both Russian anti-air installations and military bases with strategic weapons. I don't know if US possesses any working hyper sonic missiles yet, but they are also of grave concern for both sides. Russia used it's own in Kiev just to show that it can penetrate NATO missile defense systems without fail if it comes down to it. Don't know about method of delivery of nuclear weapons from strategic bombers, but my assumption is that they would not just drop a dumb bomb, might be wrong about it.

The US had hypersonic manned aircraft in late 1959.
NASA flew a scramjet unmanned aircraft at Mach 9.64 in 2004.
They didn't penetrate "NATO defense systems", they penetrated a degraded Ukrainian defense system. Wasn't it mostly S-300s?

Why did they not let Russia join then? Weren't Russia asking to be a member somewhere in the 90s and in 2000 after Putin was in power?(Let's discount a meme with Stalin trying to join NATO after it was just made.)

Russia did not apply, Putin supposedly asked when he was going to be invited. There were several situations that made the relationship between NATO-Russia too complicated to condense into a post. Later when asked about it, Russian officials made it clear that they didn't want to be in NATO, but wanted to be partners. It was 2014 that soured the relationship for good.

And do you truly think that liberals will take power in Russia if Putin falls?

That's not the point. The point is that people in Europe get nervous about Russia playing hardball. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy to be paranoid about regime change when everyone else is paranoid about what Russia is going to do next, to the point they'd be on board with regime change.

Then why NATO and Russia just guaranty the independence of Ukraine and call it a day? NATO would be able to jump to Ukraine defenses if Russia acting up and vice versa. Wouldn't it made Ukraine truly neutral and not "neutral" by being a part of military alliance as you propose?

Because at that point you'd be asking NATO to start nuclear war over a nation that wasn't even a member state.
Western countries and Russia already signed the Budapest Memorandum. Again, the words are not worth the paper they were printed on.

 

[IKOL]

Anyway, why is everyone so surprised the Russkies are shooting at civilians when the order from day 1 was "Yo civvies pack up your molotovs and pick up arms dis gon b gud"?
Seriously, not that it's supposed to excuse anything, but what do people expect?

Probably expected russkie ork to drop them weapons and flee crying out loud.

That's what a brainwashing machine does to a person.

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>article says "dolphins"
>shows nerpas. VDV nerpas

Absolute lack of honesty. Nerpas are cool tho.

Don't worry, someone will use one in combat this war. It won't be officially issued or anything, but in damn near every war a few mad lads pop up using old weapons for shits and giggles.

Are Mosin and Mauser are fucking joke to you?!

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Are Mosin and Mauser are fucking joke to you?!

No, they're two of my favorite rifles, I own both. Currently I'm trying to figure out where the fuck the ukies are getting 8mm Mauser ammo, because its pretty scarce where I live. This war is already affecting my ammo budget, and that's the real tragedy.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Are Mosin and Mauser are fucking joke to you?!

No but we're waiting for a vatnik to get some using an actual hammer AND sickle.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

No but we're waiting for a vatnik to get some using an actual hammer AND sickle.

Wait a second, this is giving me an idea on how to use the Reddit legion....

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Russia did not apply, Putin supposedly asked when he was going to be invited. There were several situations that made the relationship between NATO-Russia too complicated to condense into a post. Later when asked about it, Russian officials made it clear that they didn't want to be in NATO, but wanted to be partners. It was 2014 that soured the relationship for good.

Russia would have needed to do a complete revamp from both it's government and it's military from top to bottom to join NATO even if it and NATO were open to the idea of Russia being in NATO.

Plus, NATO had legitimate reasons to distrust Russia even before 2014, with the Second Chechnian war and War in Georgia being land grabs, then 2014 had them do another blatant land grab with Crimea, it's why I think this war wasn't about Ukraine neutrality or just Donbass, but annexing more of Ukraine or putting it so firmly under it's sphere of influence to the point it's just an extension of Russia that will eventually be annexed like Belarus currently is.

 

[LikeRivenIRL]

If you don't do this

you get this

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Eyebleach

That's what happens when parents don't set boundaries for their kids + a culture trying to sanitise and mainstream things which are very culturally sexual. It's the same reason we have 11 year old insta thots.

 

[IKOL]

Here's a minute of funny.

>Basically, we're out of money
>we send 33 billions dollars to Ukraine anyway

To every single american that voted for pedo joe and still believe they matter. You're just liretal subhumans to them and a fuel for meat grinder, mark my words.

 

[kuuu]

Here's a minute of funny.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I'm about to make some people mad. Sorry!

Analysis of the strategic situation for Russia's Donbass offensive. Shits fucked bro. Its really fucking fucked.

The offensive on Kharkiv is in full collapse. The forces attempting to do the pinning operation have been in consistent combat for the last two months and the Russian units around the city have finally hit their breaking point. In the last 12 hours the Ukrainian forces around the city have advanced almost 50 Kilometers, indicating the possiblility of a complete collapse of the Northeastern front.

Mariople still has not fallen, which is keeping a huge number of Russian soldiers pinned down to lay siege to the Azovstahl plant. This compromised the assault towards Zaporizhia, and the Russian forces pushing in that direction have fallen back.

In Kherson, Russian forces have been steadily pushed back almost 200 kilometers from their largest advance point near the city of Mykolaiv. Reports are that all power and communications to the city have been severed. Most likely in anticipation of an imminent Ukrainian assault on the occupied city.

The only portion of this offensive that has achieved anything has been to thrust towards Izium, but with the collapse of the Kharkiv front, Russian forces in this town are quite literally out on a limb and may have to pull back soon in order to stiffen the northern front. Or risk being encircled if Russian forces in the north completely collapse.

The clock has officially run out for Russia to win this quickly. Unless the Russian Federation implements general mobilization and commits to total war, then this shit is done.

 

[IKOL]

Wishful imagination.

Source: Trust me bro, I watch ukieprop, 100% unbiased

 

[mindlessobserver]

Source: Trust me bro, I watch ukieprop, 100% unbiased

We'll see I suppose. I've not been wrong yet.

 

[Shovelbird]

You're not kidding. The actual Turks in Turkey have Western European levels of tfr. Only the Kurds are actually breeding in decent numbers, which spells trouble for our friend Erdogen and his boys. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of roaches says I.

actually when Kurds decided to slow town to lower levels of kids, STRANGELY our borders were opened by (((our greatest ally))) and we are having over 10million Syrians Arabs and Afghans.

10 million.

Think about it.