Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[IKOL]

Fucking pathetic.

On their knees.

Begging people that hate them.

I agree, that's not a Virtus.Pro I knew a while ago.

 

[Burgerasssand]

America is not an expansionist superpower, which is a unique aberration of history. Its not interested in invading and taking over territory

B R U H

 

[Feline Supremacist]

B R U H

I bet he thinks we went to Iraq over weapons of mass destruction. For FREEDOM™

 

[Mr Processor]

I bet he thinks we went to Iraq over weapons of mass destruction. For FREEDOM™

They hate us for our freedom. Which is exemplified by the new Disinformation Board which will free our minds from having to think about things our government doesn't approve of.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

They hate us for our freedom. Which is exemplified by the new Disinformation Board which will free our minds from having to think about things our government doesn't approve of.

Don't forget out yellow cakes from Africa. They wanted those real bad.

 

[White_N]

They hate us for our toilets and washing machines.

Corrected

 

[Ponzo]

The Red Babushka is MIA and might have fallen victim to the Azovs

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Today's off topic history lesson it for you all to give a report on a major event that happened between 1846-1848, which saw the US gain access to the Pacific ocean and Mexico lost just over 50% of its territory.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

The Red Babushka is MIA and might have fallen victim to the Azovs

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Would make sense but I'll hold on this one, do we even know where the Babushka actually lived to start with? It's extremely easy for some random, nameless old woman whose image is famous who probably didn't even have internet access before the war become MIA in this whole mess.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

Westoids don't actually think Ukraine is democratic, do they?

In the 30 years of its existence, Ukraine has seen six presidents, and one acting president. Of the six people to hold the office previous to the current president, five relinquished power when they lost the election, and the sixth was technically impeached hence why one of those five people held the office in an "acting" capacity.

As far as most westerners are concerned, that's good enough. Power transfers at elections, or when the legislative body impeaches the leader. No one refusing to give up power despite their term being up. No one pushing the legislature into altering term limits to let them keep running for reelection. For that matter the legislature is made up of multiple political parties with the largest controlling little more than half the seats. All in all, it's more or less functioning as a democracy. Is it without things to criticize? Of course not. But that's not exactly unusual for governments, including democratic ones.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

I'm about to make some people mad. Sorry!

Analysis of the strategic situation for Russia's Donbass offensive. Shits fucked bro. Its really fucking fucked.

The offensive on Kharkiv is in full collapse. The forces attempting to do the pinning operation have been in consistent combat for the last two months and the Russian units around the city have finally hit their breaking point. In the last 12 hours the Ukrainian forces around the city have advanced almost 50 Kilometers, indicating the possiblility of a complete collapse of the Northeastern front.

Mariople still has not fallen, which is keeping a huge number of Russian soldiers pinned down to lay siege to the Azovstahl plant. This compromised the assault towards Zaporizhia, and the Russian forces pushing in that direction have fallen back.

In Kherson, Russian forces have been steadily pushed back almost 200 kilometers from their largest advance point near the city of Mykolaiv. Reports are that all power and communications to the city have been severed. Most likely in anticipation of an imminent Ukrainian assault on the occupied city.

The only portion of this offensive that has achieved anything has been to thrust towards Izium, but with the collapse of the Kharkiv front, Russian forces in this town are quite literally out on a limb and may have to pull back soon in order to stiffen the northern front. Or risk being encircled if Russian forces in the north completely collapse.

The clock has officially run out for Russia to win this quickly. Unless the Russian Federation implements general mobilization and commits to total war, then this shit is done.

Oh man, you SERIOUSLY underestimate the bunker mentality of the pro-Russian goobers here.

Everything is going according to plan, comrade. And if you say it isn't you're obviously part of the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Oh man, you SERIOUSLY underestimate the bunker mentality of the pro-Russian goobers here.

Everything is going according to plan, comrade. And if you say it isn't you're obviously part of the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy.

you say fite me we say

take a number plz

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Would make sense but I'll hold on this one, do we even know where the Babushka actually lived to start with? It's extremely easy for some random, nameless old woman whose image is famous who probably didn't even have internet access before the war become MIA in this whole mess.

It's actually amazing that even in the middle of a war you can track someone down to the degree they have with her. Modern technology is one hell of a thing.

 

[IKOL]

Oh man, you SERIOUSLY underestimate the bunker mentality of the pro-Ukrainian goobers here.

ftfy, don't thank me for it, just give more attention to what you post next time.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

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you say fite me we say
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take a number plz

I think you need a break from this thread, girl. I get you're no fan of Ukraine, but you need to understand that exposure to Russian ideas and its people for too long leads to inevitable retardation.

 

[IKOL]

I think you need a break from this thread, girl. I get you're no fan of Ukraine, but you need to understand that exposure to Russian ideas and its people for too long leads to inevitable retardation.

>a guy with a weeb shiz as pfp
>whine about NY-er bias toward russkies
>claims inevitable retardation

My guy, ain't ya a possible lolcow?


I'd like to point out a thing, everyone can have whatever opinion they want, as long as this opinion don't literally telling "fucking animals\children is good, everyone should do that!" kind of senile bullshit. Both sides have obvious tankies, but it's only UA shills who steer shit on their opponents constantly, 24\7, while relatively centrist\neutral and pro-rus are at the very least trying to keep a discuss be civil, to some degree.

Not to mention the delusions about #UkraineWinning, like of @mindlessobserver who just happened to spill the most out of touch analysis to this day regarding the ongoing Slav Skirmish.

Also, catch some Зрада! folks.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The Red Babushka is MIA and might have fallen victim to the Azovs

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If Azov hurt or caused the death of an old woman with Alzheimers that's it.

I think you need a break from this thread, girl. I get you're no fan of Ukraine, but you need to understand that exposure to Russian ideas and its people for too long leads to inevitable retardation.

come at me Starscream

 

[Ponzo]

I think you need a break from this thread, girl. I get you're no fan of Ukraine, but you need to understand that exposure to Russian ideas and its people for too long leads to inevitable retardation.

It could be worse

Spoiler: TMI

friday i drove past four luxury cars with Ukrainian license plates in Vienna, i stopped to search for russian gopnik hardbass on Spotify just to drive by them again and im not even russian. They always whine about russian oligarchs but vienna is full of bentleys, mercedes and porsche from ukrainian gapefugees and they even get to park for free

In other news,


you can track the ship here

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:713276/zoom:10

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

They hate us for our toilets and washing machines.

Corrected

Really I'm not sure why people sneer so much at the washing machine thing. Sure it's unbelievable that they'd steal something so bulky. Normally loot is small portable and valuable items. Like this video I found back on April 21st that purports to be a video of stolen items abandoned in a car when Russia retreated from the Kiev region:

As you can see, small trinkets, valuable items, and random useful stuff. Stuff that it'd make sense for people to loot given they're supposed to be conquering the place not pillaging it and transporting bulky stuff is difficult when that's not what you're supposed to be there for.

It makes the reports like this one of people sending massive amounts of stuff home difficult to believe on their face, especially given the reported issues with supply lines Russia had in the north.

However at the same time, what's wrong with appliances? If you can swipe a washing machine or refrigerator and get it home, why not do so? Which do you think your parents or family will be more pleased to get? An iPhone valued at $1000 retail price that can barely be used because Apple's currently giving Russia the finger with both hands? Or a new washer/dryer set valued at $1000 that could easily be useful for the next 15 years? Send home looted money to buy a new refrigerator(risking it being swiped by the mail service who correctly guesses that fat envelope is looted money you won't be able to make an official complaint about) or just send home the refrigerator?

All in all, while cash, booze, and high tech gadgets are nice, don't knock the idea that some soldiers might try and go both big and practical.

 

[Based Boy]

There would be no point. So far, pursuing a first strike policy would end in a significant number of retaliatory warheads making it through. Current missile defenses are simply not reliable enough, and they cost too much for every interceptor launched.
It would be preferable to just continue the investment in directed energy weapons and have a truly reliable missile defense system.

Still does not mean that Russia should give this advantage. I don't know how efficient American anti-missile defense systems would be in case of real war, but cost of interceptors would not be a problem for America if preemptive strike policy would be adopted, that's for sure.

The US had hypersonic manned aircraft in late 1959.
NASA flew a scramjet unmanned aircraft at Mach 9.64 in 2004.
They didn't penetrate "NATO defense systems", they penetrated a degraded Ukrainian defense system. Wasn't it mostly S-300s?

Not sure if they even had S-300 in the sector, considering that Kiev was bombed with common cruise missiles without much opposition. The whole point of hyper sonic missiles is there ability to change there trajectory mid-flight several times, which would make interception difficult for modern anti-missile systems, which, in a funny way, can be used to bomb anti-missile installations to make way for older and slower missiles.

Russia did not apply, Putin supposedly asked when he was going to be invited. There were several situations that made the relationship between NATO-Russia too complicated to condense into a post. Later when asked about it, Russian officials made it clear that they didn't want to be in NATO, but wanted to be partners. It was 2014 that soured the relationship for good.

Why did they not invited Russia, then? Chechen wars? Wouldn't that put Russia in the same camp as America with it's War on Terror? Or were Americans afraid that their European vassal states would try to decouple themselves from US and try to build an equal relationship with Russia?
Asked later when? In 2009, when the purpose of the alliance was well understood by Russia?

That's not the point. The point is that people in Europe get nervous about Russia playing hardball. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy to be paranoid about regime change when everyone else is paranoid about what Russia is going to do next, to the point they'd be on board with regime change.

People of Europe get nervous about whatever their media tell them to get nervous about. The same is true for Russia. Aren't there would be no nation bordering Russia in Europe left who did not join NATO after Finland joins if your wishes about Ukraine joining NATO are fulfilled?(Let's discount Azerbaijan, if you even can call them European. Though they are under Turkeys protection.) What do they have to worry about after that? Nuclear war? Wouldn't open regime change risk that?

Because at that point you'd be asking NATO to start nuclear war over a nation that wasn't even a member state.
Western countries and Russia already signed the Budapest Memorandum. Again, the words are not worth the paper they were printed on.

And starting nuclear war over a member state of NATO is better how?
It is amusing that you previously stated that Budapest Memorandum is a toothless agreement that forces signatories to act through UN Security Council, in which US and Russia are permanent members with veto powers, yet you still trying to conflate it with unilateral guaranty of independence, which would oblige nations that sign it to come in defense of Ukraine in a defensive war.
And, by your logic, what compels NATO to defend it's members, exactly? It's nothing more than a piece of paper, they can just pack up their bags and leave to avoid a nuclear war if they so choose, couldn't they? Or do they sign a blood pact or something?